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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Ian Price on November 14, 2008, 06:11:01 PM

Title: Is this really worth it........
Post by: Ian Price on November 14, 2008, 06:11:01 PM
Seems a tad overpriced to me! I'm no expert though.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/D-A-M-CUSTOM-SHOP-SIZE-QUEEN-1-of-1-1966-TONE-BENDER_W0QQitemZ130268719007QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Guitar_Accessories?hash=item130268719007&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A3%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318
Title: Re: Is this really worth it........
Post by: kellar on November 14, 2008, 06:13:32 PM
That price would be hard to justify for a fuzz pedal. Just my opinion.
Title: Re: Is this really worth it........
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on November 14, 2008, 06:44:59 PM
That price would be hard to justify for a fuzz pedal. Just my opinion.

+1
I know it's all handmade and carefully painted but component count is pretty small (although some bits are NOS)
Of course to get an original (which might not work very well anyway by now) would be equally pricey

I remember thinking i was mad in 1987 for spending £80 back on a RAT pedal
Title: Re: Is this really worth it........
Post by: gwEm on November 14, 2008, 06:51:00 PM
veroboard, not even own PCB :/
Title: Re: Is this really worth it........
Post by: Ian Price on November 14, 2008, 06:51:36 PM
I do really want a fuzz pedal at the moment but don't want to spend loads of money on it - the Zvex Fuzz Factory is also pretty expensive for what you get. Maybe BYOC is the way to go.
Title: Re: Is this really worth it........
Post by: gwEm on November 14, 2008, 06:52:26 PM
I do really want a fuzz pedal at the moment but don't want to spend loads of money on it - the Zvex Fuzz Factory is also pretty expensive for what you get. Maybe BYOC is the way to go.

it surely is
Title: Re: Is this really worth it........
Post by: nfe on November 14, 2008, 07:16:16 PM
I have a D*A*M Meathead and it's an absolutely fantastic pedal.

None of their normal output is remotely that expensive, these are one offs.

Though a lot of their pedals do rcket to daft prices on ebay as there is quite a wait on some of them, brand new my Meathead was just over a hundred I think, maybe just below, similar to my Z.Vex FF anyway and there's not even a comparison in quality, the D*A*M kicks it's arse up and down the road.

To answer the question though, no, it isn't worth that, unless you're excited by it being a one off "art" piece.
Title: Re: Is this really worth it........
Post by: WezV on November 14, 2008, 07:21:49 PM
i can see a 1 off being worth what ever someone will pay, and think its funny he made an issue of censoring the boobs only to place the pedal on a picture with a boob in it

but this one got me

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130268720813&ssPageName=MERC_VI_RSCC_Pr4_PcY_BID_Stores_IT&refitem=130268719007&itemcount=4&refwidgetloc=active_view_item&usedrule1=StoreCatToStoreCat&usedrule2=CrossSell_LogicX&refwidgettype=cross_promot_widget&_trksid=p284.m184&_trkparms=algo%3DDR%26its%3DS%252BI%252BSS%26itu%3DISS%252BUCI%252BSI%26otn%3D2

its not even a one off and the finish aint that special!!
Title: Re: Is this really worth it........
Post by: ailean on November 14, 2008, 08:29:55 PM
I do really want a fuzz pedal at the moment but don't want to spend loads of money on it - the Zvex Fuzz Factory is also pretty expensive for what you get. Maybe BYOC is the way to go.

Sue built the BYOC Tone Bender II ESV last weekend, very nice fuzz pedal for £50!
Title: Re: Is this really worth it........
Post by: TheDev01dOne on November 14, 2008, 08:31:38 PM
No chance I would ever pay that. That finish isn't even that great. I could probably paint that, not like it's some amazing art, it's just a dodgy picture painted on there.

Is pretty funny he censored the cartoon boobs and its sitting on a bunch of pictures of real boobs.
Title: Re: Is this really worth it........
Post by: Simon D on November 15, 2008, 05:02:45 PM
How $%&#ing much?!  :o  In my opinion, that isn't worth £500. No way. You can buy a half decent amp for less than that, to say nothing of a guitar.
Title: Re: Is this really worth it........
Post by: badgermark on November 15, 2008, 05:10:21 PM
Nothing wrong with strip board, it's pretty low noise and easy to work with. If he can charge that much for something that cost maybe £30 in parts, i could make a fortune with knock of pedals made on my dining room table!
Title: Re: Is this really worth it........
Post by: Philly Q on November 15, 2008, 05:11:25 PM
but this one got me

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130268720813&ssPageName=MERC_VI_RSCC_Pr4_PcY_BID_Stores_IT&refitem=130268719007&itemcount=4&refwidgetloc=active_view_item&usedrule1=StoreCatToStoreCat&usedrule2=CrossSell_LogicX&refwidgettype=cross_promot_widget&_trksid=p284.m184&_trkparms=algo%3DDR%26its%3DS%252BI%252BSS%26itu%3DISS%252BUCI%252BSI%26otn%3D2

its not even a one off and the finish aint that special!!

Currently standing at £901.30 with over a day to go.

I was going to say what I usually do - that an item's "worth" whatever someone is prepared to pay for it.  But £900 for a pedal is, frankly, insane.  :|
Title: Re: Is this really worth it........
Post by: opprobrium_9 on November 16, 2008, 05:32:39 AM
i can see a 1 off being worth what ever someone will pay, and think its funny he made an issue of censoring the boobs only to place the pedal on a picture with a boob in it

but this one got me

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130268720813&ssPageName=MERC_VI_RSCC_Pr4_PcY_BID_Stores_IT&refitem=130268719007&itemcount=4&refwidgetloc=active_view_item&usedrule1=StoreCatToStoreCat&usedrule2=CrossSell_LogicX&refwidgettype=cross_promot_widget&_trksid=p284.m184&_trkparms=algo%3DDR%26its%3DS%252BI%252BSS%26itu%3DISS%252BUCI%252BSI%26otn%3D2

its not even a one off and the finish aint that special!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA - you could buy 3 DAM pedals with that kind of money (yes the pun is vigorously included).
Title: Re: Is this really worth it........
Post by: CaptainDesslock on November 16, 2008, 03:21:17 PM
haha,

in no way could I see that being justified, here's a list of much better things you could do with that money-

-a zvex fuzz factory for 1/3 or 1/4 the price
-a devi-ever fuzz for 1/10 the price
-down payment on a custom guitar
-down payment on a house
-a manson modified squier with built in fuzz factory
-a Ibanez JEM
-anAmerican Standard Strat
-a Princeton Reverb reissue
-just a few more bones and you could get a soldano astroverb

the list goes on......................... :roll: some of his pedals are so much more expensive than that one you could almost pay off a custom Legra  8)
Title: Re: Is this really worth it........
Post by: Crazy_Joe on November 16, 2008, 03:23:36 PM
I think hell no would be the answer to your question.
Title: Re: Is this really worth it........
Post by: indysmith on November 16, 2008, 06:06:33 PM
None of us have played either of these pedals; who are we to say what they're worth? They could bring about eargasm with every note (and for those sort of prices they'd bloody better do!).
Title: Re: Is this really worth it........
Post by: Philly Q on November 16, 2008, 11:32:32 PM
Oddly enough, there were no last-minute bids - the Size Queen went for £520.00 and the Fuzzaround for £901.30.
Title: Re: Is this really worth it........
Post by: CaptainDesslock on November 16, 2008, 11:41:39 PM
None of us have played either of these pedals; who are we to say what they're worth? They could bring about eargasm with every note (and for those sort of prices they'd bloody better do!).

i'd say common sense steps in for that one.......by comparison a zvex fuzz factory which is considered a top-of-the-line fuzz retails for $250 for the higher quality version, i fail too see how some no name brand fuzz pedal for ~$1000 dollars would be any much better.......not to mention he has pedals going for ~1800, he is simply preying on people's stupidity...and the haughty folks who just love to toss around expensive gear
Title: Re: Is this really worth it........
Post by: nfe on November 17, 2008, 12:12:54 AM
None of us have played either of these pedals; who are we to say what they're worth? They could bring about eargasm with every note (and for those sort of prices they'd bloody better do!).

i'd say common sense steps in for that one.......by comparison a zvex fuzz factory which is considered a top-of-the-line fuzz retails for $250 for the higher quality version, i fail too see how some no name brand fuzz pedal for ~$1000 dollars would be any much better.......not to mention he has pedals going for ~1800, he is simply preying on people's stupidity...and the haughty folks who just love to toss around expensive gear

Like I said earlier, my D*A*M Metalhead blows my Fuzz Factory out the water.

I think saying he's preying on people's stupidity is harsh, that's a pedal he's built based on a rare pedal people pay more for, AND it's an auction, he hasn't set that massive price.

What's he meant to do? Refuse to accept what people bid? :?  And the others were one offs, the normal versions of the pedals are less than half the price.

You think if Zachary Vex did some one of versions of Fuzz Factorys they wouldn't be outrageous prices?



EDIT: Also, You also seem to imply that a brand you aren't familiar with CANNOT make a better product than a brand you know well simply because YOU are more familiar with one than the other. Which is extremely daft.
Title: Re: Is this really worth it........
Post by: opprobrium_9 on November 17, 2008, 12:25:35 AM
None of us have played either of these pedals; who are we to say what they're worth? They could bring about eargasm with every note (and for those sort of prices they'd bloody better do!).

the fact that if you get your name put on the waiting list for DAM, you will be paying less than 400 for a pedal (so i am told).
Title: Re: Is this really worth it........
Post by: CaptainDesslock on November 18, 2008, 12:53:38 AM

None of us have played either of these pedals; who are we to say what they're worth? They could bring about eargasm with every note (and for those sort of prices they'd bloody better do!).

i'd say common sense steps in for that one.......by comparison a zvex fuzz factory which is considered a top-of-the-line fuzz retails for $250 for the higher quality version, i fail too see how some no name brand fuzz pedal for ~$1000 dollars would be any much better.......not to mention he has pedals going for ~1800, he is simply preying on people's stupidity...and the haughty folks who just love to toss around expensive gear

Like I said earlier, my D*A*M Metalhead blows my Fuzz Factory out the water.

I think saying he's preying on people's stupidity is harsh, that's a pedal he's built based on a rare pedal people pay more for, AND it's an auction, he hasn't set that massive price.

What's he meant to do? Refuse to accept what people bid? :?  And the others were one offs, the normal versions of the pedals are less than half the price.

You think if Zachary Vex did some one of versions of Fuzz Factorys they wouldn't be outrageous prices?



EDIT: Also, You also seem to imply that a brand you aren't familiar with CANNOT make a better product than a brand you know well simply because YOU are more familiar with one than the other. Which is extremely daft.

I think you would learn well not to throw a tantrum over a product discussion  :violin1:

I've listened to some sound clips of their products, nice yes, but I think the overall impression from most of the forum is a sense of ridiculousness
Title: Re: Is this really worth it........
Post by: nfe on November 18, 2008, 01:00:58 AM

None of us have played either of these pedals; who are we to say what they're worth? They could bring about eargasm with every note (and for those sort of prices they'd bloody better do!).

i'd say common sense steps in for that one.......by comparison a zvex fuzz factory which is considered a top-of-the-line fuzz retails for $250 for the higher quality version, i fail too see how some no name brand fuzz pedal for ~$1000 dollars would be any much better.......not to mention he has pedals going for ~1800, he is simply preying on people's stupidity...and the haughty folks who just love to toss around expensive gear

Like I said earlier, my D*A*M Metalhead blows my Fuzz Factory out the water.

I think saying he's preying on people's stupidity is harsh, that's a pedal he's built based on a rare pedal people pay more for, AND it's an auction, he hasn't set that massive price.

What's he meant to do? Refuse to accept what people bid? :?  And the others were one offs, the normal versions of the pedals are less than half the price.

You think if Zachary Vex did some one of versions of Fuzz Factorys they wouldn't be outrageous prices?



EDIT: Also, You also seem to imply that a brand you aren't familiar with CANNOT make a better product than a brand you know well simply because YOU are more familiar with one than the other. Which is extremely daft.

I think you would learn well not to throw a tantrum over a product discussion  :violin1:

I've listened to some sound clips of their products, nice yes, but I think the overall impression from most of the forum is a sense of ridiculousness

Tantrum?

Are you kidding? :?
Title: Re: Is this really worth it........
Post by: Ian Price on November 18, 2008, 10:24:20 AM
Tantrum?

Are you kidding? :?

Didn't sound like a tantrum to me!  :?
Title: Re: Is this really worth it........
Post by: Doctor X on November 18, 2008, 06:17:38 PM
The market for vintage fuzz pedals is huge, and consequently any vintage fuzz pedals cost £lots.  D*A*M built up an excellent name by making reproductions of hard to get vintage pedals, such as the mark 2 tonebender, using vintage correct parts.  The Buzzaround is very rare indeed, so when they did the Fuzzaround copy the fuzz freaks went crazy for them.  As D*A*M is just 2 people making pedals it's a case of demand massively outweighing supply.

Because D*A*M are so well thought of and are considered by some to be future treasures.  I suspect many of their pedals - especially the one-off's like the Size Quesn - are bought to be part of collections rather than played regularly. 

Regardless though, the desirability of their pedals and the success they have acheived speaks volumes about the quality of their products.  I once owned one of their Drag'n'flys.  Without doubt the best fuzz I've owned, and I've owned several.  I regret selling it and am on one of the wait lists to get a replacement.