Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: hhcave on December 06, 2008, 08:03:29 AM
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So yeah, that's my situation... I'm looking for a guitar which is versatile, 2 humbuckers (i don't mind if there is a single coil in the middle), and is suited for anything but metal (Blues, Funk, Jazz Fusion etc.)...
I've been looking at Suhrs but what has really impressed me are the Briggs Avatar guitars! Anyone had any experience with one? Also, any other suggestions? I want something straightforward as well so no Parker Fly or Tom Anderson type guitars...
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Well, me personally, if I had £2,000 to spend on a guitar right now I would buy a Gibson ES-339. And get a new amp with the change.
Probably not the answer you're looking for though, it sounds like you're considering something more boo-teeky.
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Well I would do exactly what I did and got for a custom WezV build, and put the change towards my next computer upgrade. :)
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Save (beg, borrow, steel) an extra 500 for this
http://www.mansons.co.uk/shopping/categories/manson-electric-guitars/manson/custom-t-fuzz-mbk-2-electric-guitar/ (http://www.mansons.co.uk/shopping/categories/manson-electric-guitars/manson/custom-t-fuzz-mbk-2-electric-guitar/)
Out of your options I would seriously consider a Suhr, my guitar teacher plays them and they always really impress me.
Or I would possibly go for a Gibson Les Paul custom.
Or a Diezel VH4 but thats not even a guitar
Oh I'd better stop now. PDT_023
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Save (beg, borrow, steel) an extra 500 for this
http://www.mansons.co.uk/shopping/categories/manson-electric-guitars/manson/custom-t-fuzz-mbk-2-electric-guitar/ (http://www.mansons.co.uk/shopping/categories/manson-electric-guitars/manson/custom-t-fuzz-mbk-2-electric-guitar/)
Out of your options I would seriously consider a Suhr, my guitar teacher plays them and they always really impress me.
Or I would possibly go for a Gibson Les Paul custom.
Or a Diezel VH4 but thats not even a guitar
Oh I'd better stop now.
I'm pretty sure that someone not a million miles from this thread wouldn't thank you for that...
I'd go custom - a replica of that Yam SG currently breaking my heart on another thread here...
Mark.
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I'm pretty sure that someone not a million miles from this thread wouldn't thank you for that...
I'm probably being dense but I dont get it :?
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I'd get this and ask for it to be coil tapped:
http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=a3f0e01e2c57efa9617189f93ab252c7&topic=14206.0
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I'd get this and ask for it to be coil tapped:
http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=a3f0e01e2c57efa9617189f93ab252c7&topic=14206.0
That guitar had crossed my mind, too! :D
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I'm pretty sure that someone not a million miles from this thread wouldn't thank you for that...
I'm probably being dense but I dont get it :?
That Mason guitar is lovely, but has a distinctly "Tele" vibe to it - I can't see a Tele these days without wanting to draw Roos attention to it...
Mark.
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I'd be looking at a PRS. Huuuuuge choice a £2000 - Johnny Hiland, Custom 22, McCarty Korina, Swamp Ash Special etc.
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I'm pretty sure that someone not a million miles from this thread wouldn't thank you for that...
I'm probably being dense but I dont get it :?
That Mason guitar is lovely, but has a distinctly "Tele" vibe to it - I can't see a Tele these days without wanting to draw Roos attention to it...
Mark.
Oh I see, all becomes clear now. Yes it is quite Tele, but personally I love Tele's, and fuzz factories, and NB/MQ's, sorry I'm off again.
In fact if I went the Suhr option I would go for their Tele shape (they say it sounds best)
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I'd be looking at a PRS. Huuuuuge choice a £2000 - Johnny Hiland, Custom 22, McCarty Korina, Swamp Ash Special etc.
For pure versatility, what about a PRS 513? It's be top of my list, and I'm damn sure you could pick one up for £2k these days.
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I'd be looking at a PRS. Huuuuuge choice a £2000 - Johnny Hiland, Custom 22, McCarty Korina, Swamp Ash Special etc.
The Johnny Hiland model is cool. But in this tough economic climate(!) I'd be tempted to go for a CE Alder 22 and have some change left over.
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Nice option. £2200-£2300 for a 'hog necked one:
http://www.peachideas.com/acatalog/Peach_Online_Shop__PRS_Guitars__New_lower_prices_and_available_online_16.html
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Not sure I'd spend 2 large on a new guitar. If I had 2 grand to blow on an axe, it would be a 70s V.
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Well, me personally, if I had £2,000 to spend on a guitar right now I would buy a Gibson ES-339. And get a new amp with the change.
Probably not the answer you're looking for though, it sounds like you're considering something more boo-teeky.
+1
That guitar has been taunting me since it appeared in Guitarist.
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Heritage 535.
search for that on ebay
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Gretsch Black Phoenix. Plus some strings and picks to get rid of the change.
(http://www.apollonmusic.com/c_menu/Gretsch/G61new/G6136SLBP.jpg)
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I'd definitely go for a Suhr, Tom Anderson or Vigier.
Probably the Vigier. A Shawn Lane model would be ace.
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I'd get this and ask for it to be coil tapped:
http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=a3f0e01e2c57efa9617189f93ab252c7&topic=14206.0
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/felineguitars/CUSTOM%20BUILT/PICT4996.jpg)
It's already got 4 conductor wiring on the pickups , so it would just be a wiring chnge
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+1 for the PRS
The Suhr's look nice also
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if you are willing to wait 12 months then order an ESP custom on budget otherwise expect to throw in another grand for something special.
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For the 2K mark I would be looking to get one built, therefore have maximum input into its birth.
Although lead times beyond a year are no fun I'm getting old :)
However I agree the Suhr's do look very tempting.
Martin
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For the 2K mark I would be looking to get one built, therefore have maximum input into its birth.
Although lead times beyond a year are no fun I'm getting old :)
However I agree the Suhr's do look very tempting.
Martin
Have to agree there. I do have an irrational urge for a Gretsch White Falcon, tho it would be of little use to me, same with a Ricky 360-12. Would definitely get summat made to order for that dosh methinks.
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lets not forget domestic luthiers too. ESP was just an example i gave earlier. If i had that sort of cash now I would definitely try something from Feline or Wez.
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I'd just have to choose the Gibson Larry Carlton model 335, but I am somewhat influenced by blatant idiolatry ( and a love of semi- acoustics )... 8)
In second place would be the Yamaha SA2200 + a pair of colour matched B.K.Ps .
(* Edit * )
I've just seen the current price for the Larry Carlton model . Forget that and go with the Gibson 339 - or Yamaha / Heritage options for a 335 type semi-acoustic. :)
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A Collings SJ acoustic - based on the Gibson J185 from the 1950s
(http://www.collingsguitars.com/images/guitars/SJ-front-LG.gif)
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A few months ago I could almost have imported 2 Jackson KV2s for that. Now it would barely cover the cost of 1 :roll: So my initial answer would be "set it aside until the exchange rate improves".
On the flip side, there are plenty of things Feline could make for me, not to mention other British guitar makers...
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OOPS !
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Save (beg, borrow, steel) an extra 500 for this
http://www.mansons.co.uk/shopping/categories/manson-electric-guitars/manson/custom-t-fuzz-mbk-2-electric-guitar/ (http://www.mansons.co.uk/shopping/categories/manson-electric-guitars/manson/custom-t-fuzz-mbk-2-electric-guitar/)
Out of your options I would seriously consider a Suhr, my guitar teacher plays them and they always really impress me.
Or I would possibly go for a Gibson Les Paul custom.
Or a Diezel VH4 but thats not even a guitar
Oh I'd better stop now. PDT_023
I'm happy with Sue's choices, she can buy any of those, frankly my own list is identical when I think about it, except the VH4 would be at the top :)
Oh, and for the record, got a Feline and a Wez, both rock.
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For the 2K mark I would be looking to get one built, therefore have maximum input into its birth.
Although lead times beyond a year are no fun I'm getting old :)
However I agree the Suhr's do look very tempting.
Martin
Also a Gibson 335 with a set of BN's would have to be considered. So when do i receive the 2K ? :D
Martin
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Either go custom,
Or a Vigier Excalibur Shawn Lane Master http://www.vigierguitars.com/page/fiche_produit.php?id_prod=233 and fit it with some BKPs.
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I'd get a Gibson R7 Historic Gold top then proceed to fit a set of mules! I'd be done then.
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i'd probably get a custom legra/feline/wezv etc.
if it has to be off-the-shelf, i'd probably get a tyler/vigier/huber etc.
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Either A PRS Tremonti Trem or 513,
A Gibson Silverburst LP Custom
Or A feline Custom
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Either go custom,
Or a Vigier Excalibur Shawn Lane Master http://www.vigierguitars.com/page/fiche_produit.php?id_prod=233 and fit it with some BKPs.
That's the one! :)
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I'm looking for a guitar which is versatile, 2 humbuckers (i don't mind if there is a single coil in the middle), and is suited for anything but metal (Blues, Funk, Jazz Fusion etc.)...
I'd buy an ES-335, it'll do all that AND more. Put some Stormy Mondays or Mules in it then sit back and admire a tonal gem.
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I'd go for a 335 or a Lowden Acoustic
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I think I'd go for a 339 and a nice acoustic-talking of which, I went with a mate yesterday to Andertons to look at acoustics-he was going to spend up to £400.00 as he wanted a good guitar to practice on.He ended up with a Taylor Big Baby. Fantastic guitar for the money. I think I'd get one if I had change from the 339.
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True that. I was picking an acoustic guitar for my brother last year, and the Big Baby came out top in the bang/buck stakes. To a certain extent, I honestly wonder how Taylor can move their lower-mid range instruments when it exists, as it's really, really good. Until you get into the grand-plus ranges, it holds it's own, and it's very "simple" looking, which wins it points from me.
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I'm also REALLY gassing for a P90 guitar, i was in guitarguitar a while ago and played a Gibson Les Paul Junior 57, and loved it!
Those baby taylors are really nice actually, heard a guy playing one in a shop once and thought it sounded surprisingly good.
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I would get a Flying V or Explorerstyle guitar. The brand is not so important to me, but it should be 24.75" scale. Gibson, ESP, Ran, KxK would be the first companies I'd look at.
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I think I'd go for a 339 and a nice acoustic-talking of which, I went with a mate yesterday to Andertons to look at acoustics-he was going to spend up to £400.00 as he wanted a good guitar to practice on.He ended up with a Taylor Big Baby. Fantastic guitar for the money. I think I'd get one if I had change from the 339.
The 400 pound mark acoustic is a hard one to choose as there are so many options. I'll have to try one of those Taylors, I've seen the ads for them. I've got a to get a decent one, my old korean fender is awful.
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Either go custom,
Or a Vigier Excalibur Shawn Lane Master http://www.vigierguitars.com/page/fiche_produit.php?id_prod=233 and fit it with some BKPs.
That's the one! :)
... personal opinion coming up guys, but I think that Viger makes UGLY strat copies...
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Either go custom,
Or a Vigier Excalibur Shawn Lane Master http://www.vigierguitars.com/page/fiche_produit.php?id_prod=233 and fit it with some BKPs.
That's the one! :)
... personal opinion coming up guys, but I think that Viger makes UGLY strat copies...
Who says they're strat copies?
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Either go custom,
Or a Vigier Excalibur Shawn Lane Master http://www.vigierguitars.com/page/fiche_produit.php?id_prod=233 and fit it with some BKPs.
That's the one! :)
... personal opinion coming up guys, but I think that Viger makes UGLY strat copies...
Who says they're strat copies?
Ummm.... Me!
:)
They definitely follow the strat model, or at least all the Vigier models I've played have. It's just they I think that the deviation from the body (the less deep cut in the top) makes it look not quite right.
Ugly, even.
Hence, UGLY!
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A Blackmachine, probably need to save a tad more though :lol:
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Yes a blackmachine!!!
You'd need sightly more though :D
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Either go custom,
Or a Vigier Excalibur Shawn Lane Master http://www.vigierguitars.com/page/fiche_produit.php?id_prod=233 and fit it with some BKPs.
That's the one! :)
... personal opinion coming up guys, but I think that Viger makes UGLY strat copies...
Who says they're strat copies?
Ummm.... Me!
:)
They definitely follow the strat model, or at least all the Vigier models I've played have. It's just they I think that the deviation from the body (the less deep cut in the top) makes it look not quite right.
Ugly, even.
Hence, UGLY!
I disagree, I think they look cute, more dinky than a normal superstrat, and a much deeper cutaway with the quirky tailing off.
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Either go custom,
Or a Vigier Excalibur Shawn Lane Master http://www.vigierguitars.com/page/fiche_produit.php?id_prod=233 and fit it with some BKPs.
That's the one! :)
... personal opinion coming up guys, but I think that Viger makes UGLY strat copies...
Who says they're strat copies?
Ummm.... Me!
:)
They definitely follow the strat model, or at least all the Vigier models I've played have. It's just they I think that the deviation from the body (the less deep cut in the top) makes it look not quite right.
Ugly, even.
Hence, UGLY!
I disagree, I think they look cute, more dinky than a normal superstrat, and a much deeper cutaway with the quirky tailing off.
I Agree, I think they look good.
And it has to be said, they play incredibly well.
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Either go custom,
Or a Vigier Excalibur Shawn Lane Master http://www.vigierguitars.com/page/fiche_produit.php?id_prod=233 and fit it with some BKPs.
That's the one! :)
... personal opinion coming up guys, but I think that Viger makes UGLY strat copies...
Who says they're strat copies?
Ummm.... Me!
:)
They definitely follow the strat model, or at least all the Vigier models I've played have. It's just they I think that the deviation from the body (the less deep cut in the top) makes it look not quite right.
Ugly, even.
Hence, UGLY!
I disagree, I think they look cute, more dinky than a normal superstrat, and a much deeper cutaway with the quirky tailing off.
I Agree, I think they look good.
And it has to be said, they play incredibly well.
Yar, regardless of aesthetics, the contours etc super comfortable, much more comfortable than a typical strat, and they play outrageously well.
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Johnny, the Taylor Big Baby retails at about £310.00. I picked one up but it didn't have a price tag on. I loved it but said to my mate that it was probably outside his budget. I was amazed when I saw the price.
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A Blackmachine, probably need to save a tad more though :lol:
I'll try to talk Doug into building a 7 string version of the B6.... ;) Oh, actually, already tried that & will try again when I next speak to him! :D
Otherwise, well, these guys will build you pretty much anything you can think of: http://www.roterguitars.com/ and these are just art: http://www.sherman-customs.com/
Both of the above fall under 2 grand I think, although tax on the 2nd would be a killer.
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I'd get this and ask for it to be coil tapped:
http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=a3f0e01e2c57efa9617189f93ab252c7&topic=14206.0
Yes, that's the one!
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Either go custom,
Or a Vigier Excalibur Shawn Lane Master http://www.vigierguitars.com/page/fiche_produit.php?id_prod=233 and fit it with some BKPs.
That's the one! :)
... personal opinion coming up guys, but I think that Viger makes UGLY strat copies...
Who says they're strat copies?
Ummm.... Me!
:)
They definitely follow the strat model, or at least all the Vigier models I've played have. It's just they I think that the deviation from the body (the less deep cut in the top) makes it look not quite right.
Ugly, even.
Hence, UGLY!
I disagree, I think they look cute, more dinky than a normal superstrat, and a much deeper cutaway with the quirky tailing off.
I Agree, I think they look good.
And it has to be said, they play incredibly well.
Yar, regardless of aesthetics, the contours etc super comfortable, much more comfortable than a typical strat, and they play outrageously well.
Personal taste, I guess. I played one earlier this year, did absolutely nothing for me.
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Vigier's look to have all the tricks that you expect from a good super strat.
I am yet to be convinced that the carbon running through the neck doesn't stifle vibrations in the wood you really want to keep.
Martin
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carbon fibre running down a neck does not in any way stifle vibrations. making a fully CF neck does sound different (but not bad) but vigiers are still mostly wood.
i would miss having a truss rod though!!
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My Korina V has two carbon fibre rods running down the neck - one on either side of the trussrod
As did my Korina Lion
(http://www.felineguitars.com/guitar_images/v%20-%20Korina%20JL/V%20Korina_JL_Front726px.jpg)
(http://www.felineguitars.com/guitar_images/lion%20-%20korina%20%20turq/korina-lion-spec-horiz-500.jpg)
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(http://www.felineguitars.com/guitar_images/lion%20-%20korina%20%20turq/korina-lion-spec-horiz-500.jpg)
Having pawed over that guitar in person I can say it is something very, very special.
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For two grand, I could buy enough wood to practice on and build the electric and acoustic I've been promising myself for god knows how long (as well as some additional tools):
Electric: Les Paul Double Cut/ the new Taylor shape, two HB's and Variax Electronics.
Acoustic: Nice and simple with really nice woods, no electrics or other gubbings.
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Johnny, the Taylor Big Baby retails at about £310.00. I picked one up but it didn't have a price tag on. I loved it but said to my mate that it was probably outside his budget. I was amazed when I saw the price.
I had a read of some reviews and it sounds like a great buy for the money.
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I've said it before but I now have more pics to help support my case:
(http://www.zen108935.zen.co.uk/13Gauge/guitar_pics/Img_0683_smaller.jpg)
With change for some (!) serious toys to accompany it! :)
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I've said it before but I now have more pics to help support my case:
(http://www.zen108935.zen.co.uk/13Gauge/guitar_pics/Img_0683_smaller.jpg)
With change for some (!) serious toys to accompany it! :)
Roo, that is lovely... is that the Wez build?
I think that you need more pickups, more knobs and thinner strings though...
;)
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yeah, thats mine... and i would say its pretty fine just as it is!!!
Thx for the new pics roo - they really are loads better than anything i can take
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are the frets fanned? or is that an optical illusion?
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(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e31/WezV/new/IMG_0679.jpg)
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I like the look of that McGuire blackguard tele on vintage & rare's website. Might px the strat against a nice tele
when cash not so tight.
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I've said it before but I now have more pics to help support my case:
(http://www.zen108935.zen.co.uk/13Gauge/guitar_pics/Img_0683_smaller.jpg)
With change for some (!) serious toys to accompany it! :)
Roo, that is lovely... is that the Wez build?
I think that you need more pickups, more knobs and thinner strings though...
;)
It's got a plain third! How thin do you want!
Hang on, that's a wound third isn't it? Never mind :lol:
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God that's a nice guitar Wez.
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A Blackmachine, probably need to save a tad more though :lol:
I'll try to talk Doug into building a 7 string version of the B6.... ;) Oh, actually, already tried that & will try again when I next speak to him! :D
:?Isn't that just a B7/what your getting anyway?
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a Les Paul AND a Mayones, i'd say. anyway i haven't got 2k GBP... :)
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I have always wanted a custom build and 2 grand would easily get it done.
PRS-ish Style neck and headstock with simple thin offset block fret inlays ala my old jet king, a more agressive jazzmaster inspired zebrawood body (maybe with a very light black oiled finish) loaded with a hot P90 in the neck and seriously good humbucker in the bridge (probably a nailbomb). All topped off with a 3-way selector switch for some Tom Morello moments.
I love the look of the fanned frets on wezv's beauty, I've never seen that before.
Are there any difficulties / issues with them?
Anyway, if we are talking off the shelf +1 for that jaw-droppingly beautiful Gretch Black Pheonix, I haven't oggled a guitar for that long in ages :oops:
Not sure how it would fit in with my style of playing but I could change for something that beautiful!
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I love the look of the fanned frets on wezv's beauty, I've never seen that before.
Are there any difficulties / issues with them?
When I first picked up the guitar at Wez's place, I was so awestruck with the beauty and the feel of the wood that what I started playing, I'd actually forgotten that it was fanned fret. Wez pointed out that it didn't take any getting used to, and I think twigged that it really is a fanned fret!! It feels so natural to play, I really can't stress enough how normal it feels to play a fanned fret guitar, and yet the sound is something else. The bass notes have so much more clarity, and the string tension is great. I don't think I'll ever go back to playing a non fanned-fret guitar again.
Roo
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I love the look of the fanned frets on wezv's beauty, I've never seen that before.
Are there any difficulties / issues with them?
When I first picked up the guitar at Wez's place, I was so awestruck with the beauty and the feel of the wood that what I started playing, I'd actually forgotten that it was fanned fret. Wez pointed out that it didn't take any getting used to, and I think twigged that it really is a fanned fret!! It feels so natural to play, I really can't stress enough how normal it feels to play a fanned fret guitar, and yet the sound is something else. The bass notes have so much more clarity, and the string tension is great. I don't think I'll ever go back to playing a non fanned-fret guitar again.
Roo
that's interesting, i didn't even know that something like that existed! :)
i have to try it...
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Personally with £2k I would look at adding another Tyler to the three I have already got. Owned Suhrs and played plenty of Tom Anderson's but the Tyler has a vibe that for me, elevates it above them.
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custom. rek... ran... maybe caparison. i really like wez's work though. seeeeexy.
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The custom I quoted from Ran just recently was around £2000 (over actually), it used to be so cheap before *sigh* :(
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The pound being virtually worthless against the euro, this is increasingly a problem :( Still, good news for Johnathan and Wez.
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HaH, well, I would go for a J-Custom, If there are on e-bay at the time or IbanezRulez has any decent ones, and swap out the pups for some BKP's. :lol:
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I've actually found something i would rather have.
http://www.guitarzone.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=22_114&products_id=1046&osCsid=0f9d30f88ff5eb970e0346063aba08e3
Drool
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I loooooove Organics...
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I loooooove Organics...
The worst thing is, i can almost afford it, but i REALLY REALLY shouldn't.
I've been gassing for a dual pickup P90 guitar for some time now too, and thats the only one i've really liked the look of.