Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Twinfan on December 09, 2008, 01:27:43 PM
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In the quest for The Ultimate Tone (TM), I'm considering getting a pair of Celestion Golds for my 2x12. Has anyone tried them? What is the consensus on how they sound with Marshall-style amps?
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Interested about too... Someday I'll have an AC30 clone 8)
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Ive had a pair of Celesion Blues before.. they were nice.
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If the cab is good, I'm sure they'd be awesome. Especially mixing them with 12H30 or something might be cool.
One day I'll give it a try ...
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Maybe ask Steve Stevens:
http://professional.celestion.com/guitar/features/SS_badgerdemo.mp3
:O)
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Is 'bloody fantastic' the reponse you want?! :D
I replaced a G12H30 (I am not a fan of this particular speaker) with one in my Bogner 1x12 cab and now that it has broken in it has made a world of difference. The best way of describing it's effect in tone, especially clean, is that it adds an almost three dimensional quality to single line notes of chords and is extremely responsive to picking dynamics.
With drive, it allows the character of the amp to shine through and retains clarity, even under extreme gain. It's become my favourite speaker and I am considering replacing the Vintage 30's in my Bogner 2x12 cab with them.
I use a Bogner Duende or Ecstasy 101B with the cabs and whilst it works equally well with either amp, the observations above were noted with the Ecstasy.
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Is 'bloody fantastic' the reponse you want?! :D
I replaced a G12H30 (I am not a fan of this particular speaker) with one in my Bogner 1x12 cab and now that it has broken in it has made a world of difference. The best way of describing it's effect in tone, especially clean, is that it adds an almost three dimensional quality to single line notes of chords and is extremely responsive to picking dynamics.
With drive, it allows the character of the amp to shine through and retains clarity, even under extreme gain. It's become my favourite speaker and I am considering replacing the Vintage 30's in my Bogner 2x12 cab with them.
I use a Bogner Duende or Ecstasy 101B with the cabs and whilst it works equally well with either amp, the observations above were noted with the Ecstasy.
Isn't it lacking some bottom end?
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It all sounds good. I'll get a pair ordered......
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Well I ordered the Golds last week and they should be arriving tomorrow :)
Tone report once they're fitted. I hope they're worth the cost....
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I have a gold and a G12H in my 65 amps 2x12. Sounds really good but that's how it is stock so I can't really comment on what either of them are like individually.
There is a series of youtube videos from a Peter Stroud demo. He talks about the speakers they use in one of them but I can't remember which one. Quite interesting to watch all seven though.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=8-eBlYwmaAA&feature=related
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I replaced a G12H30 (I am not a fan of this particular speaker)
What is it you dont like about it? I cant tell if its the speaker breakup, or my amp (Laney GH50L) thats fizzy, contemplating getting some different speakers to try if you reckon the G12H30s are what may be causing my fizz/harshness issues.
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If it's a G12H Anniversary, it's the speaker. If it's the Heritage, more likely the amp.
I think you've got the Anniversarys Tom?
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I have the ones that are £50, I think thats the anni?
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If it's a G12H Anniversary, it's the speaker. If it's the Heritage, more likely the amp.
I think you've got the Anniversarys Tom?
I have 2 of the g12H anniversary speakers in my 4x12 and I dont find them fizzy or harsh with my jcm800, however with my jcm2000 the tone can be quite fizzy if the amp isnt totally cranked. So I'd say it could be the amp rather than the speakers, although I've never tried the heritage g12h's so cant comment on whether that would get rid of the fizz or not.
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I have the ones that are £50, I think thats the anni?
Yep, you've got the Anniversarys. They are reasonably harsh speakers, tight and bright. The Heritages are more rounded in my experience. In a 2x12 I think they sound quite bright, and a 4x12 softens them a bit (as TomW implies).
I'd tempted to try a speaker swap _Tom_, but bear in mind Celestion have just put their prices up :(
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I was thinking about trying something higher wattage like the EVM12Ls on Woogies recommendation but not sure if I'll like them, I think most of the tones I like feature the celestion sound.
The Golds interest me now as well :)
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I'll let you know how I get on with them ;) You may like the Hot 100s I have in my cab at the minute, I could see you those cheap?
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I was thinking about trying something higher wattage like the EVM12Ls on Woogies recommendation but not sure if I'll like them, I think most of the tones I like feature the celestion sound.
The Golds interest me now as well :)
Those golds are $%&#ing expensive bar-stewards
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Mmmmm G12K-100s and EVM12L black labels in an X-pattern 4 x 12 cab...
Interested to hear how you get on with these Golds, Twinfan!
Roo
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I'll report back later....
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I was thinking about trying something higher wattage like the EVM12Ls on Woogies recommendation but not sure if I'll like them, I think most of the tones I like feature the celestion sound.
The Golds interest me now as well :)
I used to play a Caliber 50+ with an EVM12L back in the days, and I found it too stiff and direct, was much happier with the Black Shadow Celestion I replaced it with, it had more "give" and mids.
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I have the ones that are £50, I think thats the anni?
Yep, you've got the Anniversarys. They are reasonably harsh speakers, tight and bright. The Heritages are more rounded in my experience. In a 2x12 I think they sound quite bright, and a 4x12 softens them a bit (as TomW implies).
I'd tempted to try a speaker swap _Tom_, but bear in mind Celestion have just put their prices up :(
Grrrr you've made me want to try a g12h heritage now, and I'm perfectly happy with the anniversary's I've got :shock:
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Right - the Golds are in and tested.
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Gorgeous. Thick and creamy like a McDonalds milkshake, but still plenty of clarity. Very, very similar to the Blue so if you like their tone you'd love the Golds. Celestion have really delivered what they promised. They're like a really nice Greenback with no harsh frequencies at all. Very impressive.
Can't wait to try them with some volume!!!!!
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Damn!!! I was wishing hear "they are cr@p, don't buy it" :lol:
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I've been thinking about new speakers for a while too, and you've just upped my GAS for them Twinfan.
I HOPE YOU'RE HAPPY!
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Whoops :oops:
I really didn't expect to like them THAT much. But I do :)
Martin is now GASing for some too! :lol:
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You going to stop there or are any of your other amps going to get them in. Will be bloody costly for a 4 x12
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I'm stopping there. The Deluxe already has a Blue, and the Deluxe Relic would look odd with a brand new speaker(!).
I'm happy with my 4x12 (V30s and G12H Heritages) as it's only used for DC gigs. There I need the rock bite of the speakers I already have.
Magic :D
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How do you compare the Gold and Blue? You said it's very close, but what is the difference (even small)?
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I can't hear any difference at all so far! I only played for 30mins or so last night, but they sounded identical to me.
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Sh1t! :cry:
It's kind of gold medal, then...
When I saw it, was about US$700 and now?
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Celestions are likely to be overpriced in the US.
About £175 each is a good price it seems
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I paid £300 for the pair :(
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R$1.087 for the pair without shippment and if a good sould send to me with tricks to the custom's guys :cry: R$2.152 with custons...
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I paid £300 for the pair :(
where did you order them?
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sounds good :)
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I got them from www.lean-business.co.uk
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No you didn't, you got them from Martamp! :P
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OK, I got them from Martamp :)
Who got them from Lean Business ;)
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OK, we can all see who wears the trousers in that relationship !!
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OK, we can all see who wears the trousers in that relationship !!
LOL! :lol:
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:lol: