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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Twinfan on December 15, 2008, 03:05:15 PM

Title: New (vintage!) Martamp day! (Real story now added!)
Post by: Twinfan on December 15, 2008, 03:05:15 PM
I'm off to Martin's after work tonight to pick up something rather special.  He recently came across a vintage Martamp and we've struck a deal so I can buy it off him  :D  I'm clock watching now so I can get over to his to collect it!

I'll let Martin explain the story of the amp, and I've attached some pics too.....

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"Hi Dave,

Here’s some pics of the early Martamp we were talking about. As I said, it was brought to me some time ago, found at a boot fair by a friend of a friend. Apparently the owner was clearing out a loft and came across it, and was unaware of it’s value! Of course, it wasn’t working then and needed a tidy up, but at £20 it seems to have been something of a bargain.

I’ve traced the history of it from Wilfred Martin’s (founder of Martin Radio Services, later Martamp) archives. As you know, Wilf was a keen guitarist, as well as a radio engineer, and often played on the US Air Force bases in East Anglia in the 50’s, where he became enamoured of the sound of the Fender amps brought across by the American airmen, as well as the tweed covering they used. He decided to assemble a few amps for himself and friends, being rare and hard to get hold of as they were in those days.

This amp was based on the circuit of the famous Leak 20W Hi-fi amp, which at the time was leading edge stuff, although Wilf has modified it somewhat in the search for that Fender sound. It was sold to Phil “Woody” Wood, who played with the Tornadoes for a while in the early 60s, but of course became famous with The Deltones on the blues boom later on in the decade. They often supported Fleetwood Mac, and Woody stood in on a few gigs with The Bluesbreakers when Clapton first discovered mind-altering drugs. Of course, it’s well known what happened to Woody thereafter; his early heavy rock band, Gossamer Fist, the move into prog in the 70’s, the chart hits (who can forget the instrumental “Migration”?) and later the alcohol, girls and drugs. The least said about his “techno” period in the 80s, the better.

I contacted Woody about the amp, and he was able to verify much of it’s history. He used it on tour exclusively for a few years, with a fender Twin as back-up, and jammed with many of the greats using the amp. Once, BB King played through it, and commented that it’s wail could make “a deaf man hear, and a blind man see. Lawd, yeah.”

Then it languished in a store room at Abbey Road for many years, superseded by 4 Marshall Stacks and later the short-lived endorsement deal with Music-Man, before disappearing. He said it was always the best sounding amp he’d ever had, and I offered to sell it back to him, but he replied that he’s quite happy now playing Lute and classical guitar in his Medieval themed band.

I’ve tidied the amp up a little, revalved it, changed the filter caps, and replaced a screw here and there, but basically it’s as it was.

I’ve had several offers from collectors, but I’d rather sell it to be used, so let me know if you’re still interested. I think somewhere in the region of £5k would be fine.

Regards,

Martin"

(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r267/junkacct/vintage1.jpg)

(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r267/junkacct/vintage2.jpg)

(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r267/junkacct/vintage3.jpg)

(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r267/junkacct/vintage4.jpg)
Title: Re: New (vintage!) Martamp day! :0)
Post by: dave_mc on December 15, 2008, 03:07:48 PM
i thought martamp was a new company? :oops:
Title: Re: New (vintage!) Martamp day! :0)
Post by: PPPMAT on December 15, 2008, 03:23:51 PM
Part of Martins 'relic' series is it?  :P
Title: Re: New (vintage!) Martamp day! :0)
Post by: Denim n Leather on December 15, 2008, 03:26:59 PM
That looks COOL! Definitely gig-worthy now!!
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Post by: mikeluke on December 15, 2008, 03:42:35 PM
I take it that he is joking about the £5K....
Title: Re: New (vintage!) Martamp day! :0)
Post by: FernandoDuarte on December 15, 2008, 03:51:07 PM
Very cool! I really like vintage stuff (look at the marks of beer's cups :lol:)

But I'm not understanding, who is Wilfred Martin and is Martin his son, nephew.... ?
Title: Re: New (vintage!) Martamp day! :0)
Post by: blue on December 15, 2008, 04:15:11 PM
is this the same amp Woody used on the infamous 1965-68 siberian tour? i hear the glow from the valves kept them all warm in the mine. these modern power valves just don't have the longevity!

;)
Title: Re: New (vintage!) Martamp day! :0)
Post by: 38thBeatle on December 15, 2008, 04:29:58 PM
You might be able to get him to knock a few quid off as it is "used".
Title: Re: New (vintage!) Martamp day! :0)
Post by: roland_rat on December 15, 2008, 05:11:20 PM
Quite a history that lillte amps got.  Dave if you are spending near 5K does this mean we get to buy the rest of your Martamp collection?  Just joking enjoy!
Title: Re: New (vintage!) Martamp day! :0)
Post by: hunter on December 15, 2008, 06:05:57 PM
looks like a perfect match for the Tele, relic and price wise :O)
Title: Re: New (vintage!) Martamp day! :0)
Post by: Ian Price on December 15, 2008, 07:11:04 PM
Awesome! Love those knobs (I think!)
Title: Re: New (vintage!) Martamp day! :0)
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on December 15, 2008, 07:35:39 PM
Looks great

But why is there a part of me that feels like I'm on that programme "Call My Bluff"- for those old enough to remember it.
Title: Re: New (vintage!) Martamp day! :0)
Post by: sambo on December 15, 2008, 08:08:24 PM
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But why is there a part of me that feels like I'm on that programme "Call My Bluff"- for those old enough to remember it.

What an awesome show that was! :lol:

But yeah- I smell a rat!!!  :P :lol:

I bet Wilfred is Martin's middle name.
Title: Re: New (vintage!) Martamp day! :0)
Post by: Johnny Mac on December 15, 2008, 08:15:37 PM
Someone has a very vivid imagination  :lol: very good!
Title: Re: New (vintage!) Martamp day! :0)
Post by: Mark66 on December 15, 2008, 09:07:42 PM
Vintage Martamp, £5k?..............Hmm, something not quite right here!
Title: Re: New (vintage!) Martamp day! :0)
Post by: Lew on December 15, 2008, 09:18:30 PM
I saw it when I went to pick up mine and it was in mid build, it looks even better in person!

The story was a fun read though ;p
Title: Re: New (vintage!) Martamp day! :0)
Post by: MrBump on December 15, 2008, 09:21:04 PM
Yes indeed - there's a rat there to be smelled...

But the amp looks cool, despite my reservations about "relicing"...

Mark.
Title: Re: New (vintage!) Martamp day! :0)
Post by: Philly Q on December 15, 2008, 09:26:54 PM
Should've saved it until April 1st, but great story!  :lol:
Title: Re: New (vintage!) Martamp day! :0)
Post by: FernandoDuarte on December 15, 2008, 09:34:01 PM
I got a feeling that I was caught :lol:

Anyway, the beer's marks are still cool :D
Title: Re: New (vintage!) Martamp day! :0)
Post by: Twinfan on December 15, 2008, 10:30:14 PM
OK guys, time to come clean!  :lol:  Martin came up with the story, so I agreed to go along with it for a bit of fun  :)

What actually happened was this.....

The 'relic' started out as the cabinet for my Martamp Deluxe, but in the final stages of applying the tweed, Martin over-dried the glue with a heat gun and burnt the front grille.  Whoops.  Then the glue on one top corner seeped through the tweed as it had gone on a bit thick, causing a big stain.  Martin wouldn't sell the cab to me like that so he built a second one for my Deluxe, which was mint  :)

He was going to put an amp of some sort into the sub-standard cabinet and use it himself as a gig backup and I suggested that he should 'relic' it.  He started out on the top with some scuffs and stains and was quite impressed with how it looked!  He sent me a few pics and I loved it, so a plan was hatched...

I offered to buy the 'relic' if he could build me an amp that I could use at rehearsals (with a couple of pedals) in a stripped down rig, something like a Deluxe but with 6L6s for more clean headroom and power.  So that's what it is!

I sourced an old knackered Celestion G12H on eBay and sent it for a recone, so it now has a brand new 55Hz speaker (like the Heritage G12H).  The knobs are from an old 50s radio, all the screws are mis-matched, there's a replaced/repaired pilot light, the toggles switches are different sizes etc etc.  Martin's put a lod of work and thought into it!  He relic'd the rest of the cabinet and there you have it.  The one and only Martamp Relic  :)

Looks great with the Tele, huh?

(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r267/junkacct/Relics.jpg)
Title: Re: New (vintage!) Martamp day! (Real story now added!)
Post by: FernandoDuarte on December 15, 2008, 10:47:29 PM
Quite impressive work... Looks really like a beaten up amp... I would pay to have a amp like this... :D
Title: Re: New (vintage!) Martamp day! (Real story now added!)
Post by: d1dsj on December 15, 2008, 11:01:35 PM
VERY cool.... can I have it?
Title: Re: New (vintage!) Martamp day! (Real story now added!)
Post by: roland_rat on December 16, 2008, 07:57:59 AM
Great work.  Im daft I would beleive anything.  Though I did think 5k was steep.
Title: Re: New (vintage!) Martamp day! (Real story now added!)
Post by: sgmypod on December 16, 2008, 08:33:23 AM
Like it....but would prefer pristine one..sorry
Title: Re: New (vintage!) Martamp day! (Real story now added!)
Post by: Twinfan on December 16, 2008, 08:58:40 AM
No probs!  I've got one of them too  ;)

(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r267/junkacct/Del1.jpg)
Title: Re: New (vintage!) Martamp day! (Real story now added!)
Post by: sgmypod on December 16, 2008, 09:02:25 AM
*L* so how many now..and what styles (for example JTM45 etc)
Title: Re: New (vintage!) Martamp day! (Real story now added!)
Post by: PPPMAT on December 16, 2008, 09:34:38 AM
It is a brilliant job - very convincing. If you posted that on another forum (who aren't martamp clued up) then they would probably believe it ! looks very cool
Title: Re: New (vintage!) Martamp day! (Real story now added!)
Post by: Twinfan on December 16, 2008, 09:47:43 AM
I've now got:

KT-66 (JT)M45 head with matching 2x12 (Celestion Golds)
KT-66 (JT)M45/100 with Master Volume head and matching 4x12 (X-pattern Celestion Heritage G12Hs and V30s)

6V6 (Tweed) Deluxe with Power Scaling 1x12 combo (Celestion Blue)
6L6 (Tweed) Deluxe Relic 1x12 combo (old Celestion G12H newly reconed with 55Hz bass cone)

KT-66 Orion Prototype head, all new twin-channel design

EL-34 Modified Laney Klipp head, SIR #39/Appetite For Destruction style Marshall circuit with switchable extra gain stage

Something for everyone there, and they cover the very varied home use/rehearsal/gigging requirements of both my bands.
Title: Re: New (vintage!) Martamp day! (Real story now added!)
Post by: sgmypod on December 16, 2008, 09:58:28 AM
Ahh justification like it....but seriously if I had the money..
Title: Re: New (vintage!) Martamp day! (Real story now added!)
Post by: _tom_ on December 16, 2008, 10:09:57 AM
That modded Klipp sounds interesting :)
Title: Re: New (vintage!) Martamp day! (Real story now added!)
Post by: Twinfan on December 16, 2008, 10:13:12 AM
It is  ;)

And it's LOUD!
Title: Re: New (vintage!) Martamp day! (Real story now added!)
Post by: dave_mc on December 16, 2008, 09:55:15 PM
:lol: