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Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: ledzettervall on December 16, 2008, 02:25:08 PM

Title: BKP's with PAF gain and dynamics
Post by: ledzettervall on December 16, 2008, 02:25:08 PM
Hello. The mule is very dynamic in it's response and that's a good thing, but how are the stormy mondays, riff raffs, VH2 and the black dogs in comparison? My friend needs a set of humbuckers with gain in the PAF territory but need a little more compressed sound. What options does he have? :?
Title: Re: BKP's with PAF gain and dynamics
Post by: gwEm on December 16, 2008, 02:34:00 PM
vh2 or black dog for your friend then from that list.

the other are about the same compression level as the mule, maybe a bit less in the case of the stormy monday.
Title: Re: BKP's with PAF gain and dynamics
Post by: Twinfan on December 16, 2008, 03:07:36 PM
VHIIs aren't that compressed to my ears.  I'd say Black Dog as it's quite a heavy wind on the coils.
Title: Re: BKP's with PAF gain and dynamics
Post by: ledzettervall on December 16, 2008, 03:15:55 PM
VHIIs aren't that compressed to my ears.  I'd say Black Dog as it's quite a heavy wind on the coils.

Don't need to be supercompressed. Would you say VHII's are slightly more compressed than Mules? I think his Les Paul Classic is too dark for the black dogs. He is using a Fender DRRI which is very dynamic unless you turn up the volyme near max.
Title: Re: BKP's with PAF gain and dynamics
Post by: Twinfan on December 16, 2008, 03:29:43 PM
Hard to say really.  VHIIs have a stronger AV magnet than the AIV Mule, but more unbalanced coils.  I would say they weren't more compressed.

Most BKPs are pretty open, and the guitar itself can have a big effect.  If you want a bit more compression you want something like an overwound Mule.  This is why I suggested the Black Dog, but maybe you could ask Tim if he can wind something special?
Title: Re: BKP's with PAF gain and dynamics
Post by: hunter on December 16, 2008, 06:18:48 PM
Rebel Yell might be a good alternative, compressed Bridge, open Neck.

Black Dog in a dark guitar -> I wouldn't really recommend.
Title: Re: BKP's with PAF gain and dynamics
Post by: badgermark on December 16, 2008, 07:13:03 PM
How about the Abraxas? AIV magnets and a hotter wind than the Mule. I'm seriously wanting some, but don't have a guitar to put them in...
Title: Re: BKP's with PAF gain and dynamics
Post by: _tom_ on December 16, 2008, 07:13:31 PM
I'm not a fan of the Rebel Yell, I found it to be too 80s sounding in all 3 guitars I tried it in (basswood charvel, ash strat and all-mahogany LP).. Got quite a lot of mids which is great for lead playing but I found it too congested sounding for rhythm, if that makes any sense..

Abraxas seems like a good choice from what I've read about it on here. When I tried one ages ago, it sounded much smoother than the VHIIs, which had a nice middy crunch from what I remember.
Title: Re: BKP's with PAF gain and dynamics
Post by: ledzettervall on December 16, 2008, 08:34:19 PM
Ok, if you think a Les Paul in a deluxe reverb RI, any suggestions on what pickup would work best for a crunchy rock n roll sound?
Title: Re: BKP's with PAF gain and dynamics
Post by: ericsabbath on December 16, 2008, 09:01:07 PM
crawler?
Title: Re: BKP's with PAF gain and dynamics
Post by: JamesHealey on December 17, 2008, 01:00:49 PM
I would say the VH2 is more dynamic than the mule in my opinion it's asymetrical wind gives this really dynamic and quick response it drives the amp harder thats for sure but I think it's deffinatly more dynamic.

The Black Dog would be my suggestion.