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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Norm Fireland on December 22, 2008, 11:40:32 PM

Title: Hamer Vector Korina
Post by: Norm Fireland on December 22, 2008, 11:40:32 PM
Firstly a merry christmas to everyone, i know i don't post very often as i never really get a chance, but i have a broken ankle at the moment so i'm housebound and as a result spending more time online!

I have a Hamer Vector Korina at the moment and i am contemplating selling it. I have been too generous in the past when it comes to selling guitars and I was wondering if anyone would know roughly what these fetch second hand? Its one year old and is in immaculate condition.

Any help is greatly appreciated!
Title: Re: Hamer Vector Korina
Post by: Jonny on December 23, 2008, 12:37:49 AM
How much did you get it for?
Title: Re: Hamer Vector Korina
Post by: Norm Fireland on December 23, 2008, 12:50:02 AM
Hey Jonny, it cost me £2200
Title: Re: Hamer Vector Korina
Post by: FernandoDuarte on December 23, 2008, 02:30:38 AM
Uhhh Post pics, seems a very nice guitar! :D
(no idea about used price, sorry for useless post :lol:)
Title: Re: Hamer Vector Korina
Post by: headtheball on December 23, 2008, 07:07:44 AM
I'd imagine between a grand and a half and 18 ton would be fair, but whether the market would stick it is another question.
Title: Re: Hamer Vector Korina
Post by: Jonny on December 23, 2008, 11:52:01 AM
I'd imagine between a grand and a half and 18 ton would be fair, but whether the market would stick it is another question.
Aye, I wouldn't sell it now. You'd be selling at the 'I just want to get rid of it' price too soon, with the CC and all.
Title: Re: Hamer Vector Korina
Post by: Philly Q on December 23, 2008, 11:57:32 AM
No idea about the price, but I wish I could afford to buy it!

Since it's highly unlikely that I'll ever own a genuine '58 Flying V, that Hamer's the next best thing as far as I'm concerned.
Title: Re: Hamer Vector Korina
Post by: hunter on December 23, 2008, 12:13:28 PM

I couldn't find them any cheaper than what you paid.

Fact is that most people who drop that kind of cash wanna have a maple topped PRS or Gibson VOS or something. Those Hamers are a bit special and it might take a while until you find an interested buyer.

But if you go for 1999 GBP it should be fair (given its condition is immaculate).
Title: Re: Hamer Vector Korina
Post by: Lew on December 23, 2008, 12:26:26 PM
They are GREAT guitars, god knows why you would want to sell it  8)
Title: Re: Hamer Vector Korina
Post by: Norm Fireland on December 23, 2008, 12:42:24 PM
Hey guys thanks for the advice! The reason i am thinking about selling it is because i miss the les pauls i have sold, i just love the tone of a good les paul. The hamer is bright and it isn't agressive sounding enough for me.

Here are some pics!

Title: Re: Hamer Vector Korina
Post by: Philly Q on December 23, 2008, 12:47:22 PM
That is a beautiful guitar.  Hope you get a good price for it.
Title: Re: Hamer Vector Korina
Post by: Lew on December 23, 2008, 01:06:50 PM
What condition are the frets in? Any mods or dings done?
Title: Re: Hamer Vector Korina
Post by: Norm Fireland on December 23, 2008, 01:19:09 PM
Hey Lew, the frets have minimal wear and no mods at all. The only thing that i would do to the guitar is put new pickup covers on as they came slightly blemished. By that i mean that they are not quite level, so when light shines on the covers, its looks like they are dented. Its weird, i just have never got round to changing them! There is a slight score where the rubber leg rest has been attached, but thats it.

Title: Re: Hamer Vector Korina
Post by: Lew on December 23, 2008, 01:27:51 PM
I wouldn't bother, the 59's will be wax potted 8)
Title: Re: Hamer Vector Korina
Post by: FernandoDuarte on December 23, 2008, 02:15:12 PM
Nice guitar!
Title: Re: Hamer Vector Korina
Post by: Jonny on December 23, 2008, 04:25:53 PM
Maybe Dave will come charging in and snap it up.
Title: Re: Hamer Vector Korina
Post by: AndyR on December 23, 2008, 04:47:43 PM
Nah, it's got Philly "The King Will Come" Q written all over it :lol:

EDIT: Forgot to add - looks gorgeous :D
Title: Re: Hamer Vector Korina
Post by: Philly Q on December 23, 2008, 05:17:23 PM
Nah, it's got Philly "The King Will Come" Q written all over it :lol:

I would LOVE to own that guitar, but I just don't have the money (or even space in the house) right now.  :(
Title: Re: Hamer Vector Korina
Post by: hunter on December 23, 2008, 05:31:43 PM

Just toning down the enthusiasm a bit, I mean it's a very pretty guitar and for half the money it would be great. But would it be unfair to say that these Hamers are a bit overpriced compared to other offerings on the market?

Maybe not at 2,200 GBP but surely at their original rate of 4,200 US$

http://www.themusiczoo.com/hamer/HamerUSAVector_GVKS_Korina_855893.html
Title: Re: Hamer Vector Korina
Post by: Philly Q on December 23, 2008, 05:43:54 PM
Yeah, I've mentioned it before but Hamer prices have really gone through the roof the last few years.  They've  never had consistent European distribution, which is probably a big part of the problem.

Not so many years ago Sound Control (remember them?  :wink: ) bought up all the UK Hamer stock and I got a brand new Special (P-90 version) for £399.  And my Eclipse was only about £600, I think.  Now they'd be 3 or 4 times the price - if you could find them at all.

On the other hand, quality-wise Hamers are in the PRS league, so in comparison maybe £2,000 isn't that much over the top.  It's all relative.

Title: Re: Hamer Vector Korina
Post by: Norm Fireland on December 23, 2008, 05:54:46 PM
Picking up on what hunter has said, it is alot of money for a guitar, i totally agree. However, it is definitely the best guitar i have played in terms of actual playability, everything seems just right and as Philly says its in the same league as a PRS.

The only reason i am thinking about selling it is because of the brightness of the tone. Does anyone think its worth changing the pickups? I have a set of nailbombs which i could put in...
Title: Re: Hamer Vector Korina
Post by: FernandoDuarte on December 23, 2008, 05:57:38 PM
Picking up on what hunter has said, it is alot of money for a guitar, i totally agree. However, it is definitely the best guitar i have played in terms of actual playability, everything seems just right and as Philly says its in the same league as a PRS.

The only reason i am thinking about selling it is because of the brightness of the tone. Does anyone think its worth changing the pickups? I have a set of nailbombs which i could put in...

I thinks depends on how much you're needing the money... If you NEED it, sells... If you can live without the earns from the sell, put the Nailbomb, if you still don't like, sell...
Title: Re: Hamer Vector Korina
Post by: HTH AMPS on December 23, 2008, 06:22:05 PM
Korina Vee bright? - thats about what I'd expect.  Nailbombs would probably work out fine, but I'd go with some Warpigs personally. 

OR, put some Painkillers in and have it as a hot-and-bright metal flamethrower.
Title: Re: Hamer Vector Korina
Post by: gwEm on December 23, 2008, 06:26:47 PM
fools, its got to be A4 mules in that thing...

nice guitar
Title: Re: Hamer Vector Korina
Post by: Twinfan on December 23, 2008, 07:12:56 PM
Maybe Dave will come charging in and snap it up.

Who me?????

I don't do funny shaped axes, but I do love korina....
Title: Re: Hamer Vector Korina
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on December 23, 2008, 07:15:07 PM
Korina V -I've got V2s in mine but would love to try Mules or Stormy Mondays

(http://www.felineguitars.com/guitar_images/v%20-%20Korina%20JL/V%20Korina_JL_Front726px.jpg)

The Hamers are very nice guitars
I'm building a couple of 58 reissues at the moment

I've had to have the brass tailpieces specially made as the one's you can buy are the wrong angle to meet up with the scratchplate ( it's only a 2 degree difference but makes all the difference)
Title: Re: Hamer Vector Korina
Post by: dave_mc on December 23, 2008, 07:26:59 PM
I'd imagine between a grand and a half and 18 ton would be fair, but whether the market would stick it is another question.
Aye, I wouldn't sell it now. You'd be selling at the 'I just want to get rid of it' price too soon, with the CC and all.

+1
Title: Re: Hamer Vector Korina
Post by: shobet on December 23, 2008, 10:08:08 PM
I love Hamers to bits, but unfortunately from my experience they don't retain their value very well. :(
Title: Re: Hamer Vector Korina
Post by: Lew on December 23, 2008, 10:49:07 PM
Just picking up on the comparisons to PRS, they are both great brands, but bear in mind that Hamers are made by 6-7 people by hand and PRS are mostly made in a factory using CNC-I'm not saying either way makes a better guitar but that's part of why they are expensive. Hamers wood choice is top shelf too.
The other part is that Kaman music (Hamer/Ovation) was recently bought by FMIC . So expect prices to continue to rise :( !
Used prices have jumped up loads recently(12mths or so), probably thanks in part to FMIC getting the brand some recognition.


Title: Re: Hamer Vector Korina
Post by: Philly Q on December 23, 2008, 11:05:48 PM
Just picking up on the comparisons to PRS, they are both great brands, but bear in mind that Hamers are made by 6-7 people by hand and PRS are mostly made in a factory using CNC-I'm not saying either way makes a better guitar but that's part of why they are expensive. Hamers wood choice is top shelf too.

Good point, but funnily enough the Hamers I've owned didn't feel any more hand-made than my PRSs.  In fact I'd say they sometimes felt a little soulless, like there was a magic ingredient missing somehow.
Title: Re: Hamer Vector Korina
Post by: FernandoDuarte on December 23, 2008, 11:20:59 PM
Just picking up on the comparisons to PRS, they are both great brands, but bear in mind that Hamers are made by 6-7 people by hand and PRS are mostly made in a factory using CNC-I'm not saying either way makes a better guitar but that's part of why they are expensive. Hamers wood choice is top shelf too.

Good point, but funnily enough the Hamers I've owned didn't feel any more hand-made than my PRSs.  In fact I'd say they sometimes felt a little soulless, like there was a magic ingredient missing somehow.

Then we are going to talk about extra senses not supported by science in any way.
I'm one of those who will stand for about...
Title: Re: Hamer Vector Korina
Post by: AndyR on December 24, 2008, 11:57:06 AM
fools, its got to be A4 mules in that thing...

:lol:

I'm building a couple of 58 reissues at the moment

Gulp... "58 reissues" ... this term makes me think "traditional looking V"... I can think of least two people on this forum (me included) who might have more money than sense and who fancy occasionally looking like Andy Powell or (with a blond wig) a late-70s/early-80s KK Downing in the privacy of our own living rooms...

Are we talking korina like the originals or mahogany like the later re-issues?

Please put our minds at rest and tell us that they're actually a custom order :lol:
Title: Re: Hamer Vector Korina
Post by: FernandoDuarte on December 24, 2008, 07:59:36 PM
Second Andy's post :lol:
Title: Re: Hamer Vector Korina
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on December 27, 2008, 07:50:27 PM

I'm building a couple of 58 reissues at the moment

Gulp... "58 reissues" ... this term makes me think "traditional looking V"... I can think of least two people on this forum (me included) who might have more money than sense and who fancy occasionally looking like Andy Powell or (with a blond wig) a late-70s/early-80s KK Downing in the privacy of our own living rooms...

Are we talking korina like the originals or mahogany like the later re-issues?

Please put our minds at rest and tell us that they're actually a custom order :lol:


It's the 58 style with square shoulders, half scratchplate  and KORINA body an neck

Thinking we will actually play Argus through it via our sustainiac based test rig/bedding in system now you mention it

Yes - they are for someone, but we have sorted out the templates and quirks to make them easy(ish) to do now and be accurate the original ones