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Title: why would anyone put a band around the headstock of a guitar?
Post by: JDC on December 26, 2008, 03:05:22 AM
saw this picture http://www.last.fm/music/Fredrik+Thordendal%27s+Special+Defects/+images/18618541

why does he has a band round the headstock, actually it looks more like it's around just the string, but anyway, I've no idea why anyone would do that, he has a locking nut for a start
Title: Re: why would anyone put a band around the headstock of a guitar?
Post by: Denim n Leather on December 26, 2008, 04:07:01 AM
Looks like the string retainer to me ...
Title: Re: why would anyone put a band around the headstock of a guitar?
Post by: Muzzzz on December 26, 2008, 08:37:02 AM
Looks like the string retainer to me ...

+1
Title: Re: why would anyone put a band around the headstock of a guitar?
Post by: MrBump on December 26, 2008, 08:49:51 AM
Looks like the string retainer to me ...

+1

+2...  A bloody big one though.
Title: Re: why would anyone put a band around the headstock of a guitar?
Post by: WezV on December 26, 2008, 12:10:35 PM
i think its a mute, maybe a padded string retainer - seen a lot of 8-string players have to do this because of sympathetic vibration behind the nut
Title: Re: why would anyone put a band around the headstock of a guitar?
Post by: noodleplugerine on December 26, 2008, 12:19:42 PM
i think its a mute, maybe a padded string retainer - seen a lot of 8-string players have to do this because of sympathetic vibration behind the nut

That's exactly what and why.
Title: Re: why would anyone put a band around the headstock of a guitar?
Post by: JDC on December 26, 2008, 12:54:08 PM
i think its a mute, maybe a padded string retainer - seen a lot of 8-string players have to do this because of sympathetic vibration behind the nut

cheers guys

I didn't think this was possible with a locking nut
Title: Re: why would anyone put a band around the headstock of a guitar?
Post by: noodleplugerine on December 27, 2008, 01:05:01 AM
i think its a mute, maybe a padded string retainer - seen a lot of 8-string players have to do this because of sympathetic vibration behind the nut

cheers guys

I didn't think this was possible with a locking nut

It's the vibration of the neck that causes the sympathetic vibrations behind the nut, not the inital vibration of the strings.
Title: Re: why would anyone put a band around the headstock of a guitar?
Post by: f.sardis on December 28, 2008, 07:44:39 AM
yes, it stops the strings from vibrating behind the nut. quite annoying at high gain when you do palm mutes as you can hear a little harmonic sound. not all guitars do it. one of mine does and i use cotton under the strings.
Title: Re: why would anyone put a band around the headstock of a guitar?
Post by: Nolly on December 28, 2008, 01:05:07 PM
I do it on my guitars too. One thing worth noting is that it does dull the tone just a little bit, as the resonant vibration does add some sparkle to sound, especially when you're playing full chords.
Title: Re: why would anyone put a band around the headstock of a guitar?
Post by: Nolly on December 28, 2008, 01:05:27 PM
I do it on my guitars too. One thing worth noting is that it does dull the tone just a little bit, as the resonant vibration does add some sparkle to the sound, especially when you're playing full chords.
Title: Re: why would anyone put a band around the headstock of a guitar?
Post by: f.sardis on December 28, 2008, 01:24:23 PM
i cannot say i have noticed anything like this with my guitar. it is completely inaudible on a clean channel and only audible on palm mutes with loads of gain.
Title: Re: why would anyone put a band around the headstock of a guitar?
Post by: Nolly on December 28, 2008, 01:43:15 PM
Well, every guitar will do it to a degree, but it will be more noticeable on guitars with reverse headstocks or long lengths of string between nut and tuner. You should be able to hear it when unplugged if you pick the open strings hard then mute straight away.
Title: Re: why would anyone put a band around the headstock of a guitar?
Post by: f.sardis on December 28, 2008, 02:35:33 PM
nope, cannot hear it at all  :lol:
my ears are terrible.
Title: Re: why would anyone put a band around the headstock of a guitar?
Post by: temps on December 28, 2008, 10:45:28 PM
I have to use one of these on my Jackson 7 string.. with the reversed headstock, it rings like a bitch and you can hear it all the time. I stick mine underneath the strings just behind the nut though. I actually used the foam some of my BKPs came packed in :D
Title: Re: why would anyone put a band around the headstock of a guitar?
Post by: shobet on December 28, 2008, 11:46:48 PM
I do it to stop the string behind the nut vibrating in sympathy to some to the notes that are played. I also shove bits of sponge behind the trem springs to do the same.
Title: Re: why would anyone put a band around the headstock of a guitar?
Post by: Matt77 on December 31, 2008, 10:11:50 AM
When I got my Musicman there was a problem with the cut of the nut. The open A string had a wolf note somewhere around D# that sounded horrible. A rubber band around the nut stopped it until it was re-cut a week or so later.