Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: vejiita on December 27, 2008, 01:36:38 PM
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Ok i need help deciding which pickups to get.
I need a bridge humbucker to have killer distortion as well as a warm clean tone.
which BKP has the best 500k full bridge clean tone ?
Holy diver, nailbomb, painkiller, miracle man?
thanks
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which BKP has the best 500k full bridge clean tone ?
Holy Diver by a mile :) NB a distant second, then PK, then MM...
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FWIW, here are a few clips I've done:
Clean (http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=6459.0)
Clean/Crunch/Heavy (http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=12997.0)
Heavy (http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=9744.0) (actually, the remix (http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=9744.msg124744#msg124744) on Pg2 is better...)
Heavy (http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=6461.0)
Solo over a clean backing (http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=6608.0)
Mega filth! (http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=14365.0) :twisted:
Enjoy :)
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Only piece of advice I have is not to choose the MM unless your amp has an outstanding clean channel...
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its not saying much, but i agree with all the comments so far.
i think the painkiller has pretty good cleans, obviously the holy divers better in this regard
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Only piece of advice I have is not to choose the MM unless your amp has an outstanding clean channel...
+1
only one i've tried is the MM, but it won't really do what you want.
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Ok i need help deciding which pickups to get.
I need a bridge humbucker to have killer distortion as well as a warm clean tone.
which BKP has the best 500k full bridge clean tone ?
Holy diver, nailbomb, painkiller, miracle man?
thanks
Well you can rule out the Miracle Man. It does cleans ok, but not very warm.
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i have a painkiller 7 in the bridge on my modded up 7420 and its cleans are really nice, on the hot side, not too bassy which is great for the low B and very crisp. It doesn't overdrive my clean channel (5150) and retains bite when you turn down the volume, without a treble bleed mod.
i use a cold sweat in the neck & have petrucci style wiring, the middle position for cleans is sheer bliss!
i would recommend it for metal style clean cleans, its too sharp sounding for smooth lo-gain stuff and i cant seem to get it to work well for jazz tones either.
edit/hijack: pics of the mentioned axe up in pics of bkp's in your guitar
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i have a painkiller ... bridge ... and its cleans are really nice, on the hot side, not too bassy which is great for the low B and very crisp. It doesn't overdrive my clean channel (5150) and retains bite when you turn down the volume, without a treble bleed mod.
i use a cold sweat in the neck & have petrucci style wiring, the middle position for cleans is sheer bliss!
i would recommend it for metal style clean cleans, its too sharp sounding for smooth lo-gain stuff and i cant seem to get it to work well for jazz tones either.
That's a really good description of the PK clean sound. It is a good, useable clean sound, but not ideal for ballads or some of the softer cleans you might find in, say, Opeth style music (then again, what do you expect from a pickup called "Painkiller"?!? :twisted:)
I guess that's why I like the Holy Diver so much more - it's warmer, more versatile yet still has the grunt I need for high gain :)
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which BKP has the best 500k full bridge clean tone ?
Holy Diver by a mile :) NB a distant second, then PK, then MM...
where does the cold sweat fit in here? i'm struggling myself to choose BKP's for my future Rg1527. i was pointed out to MM but seems to be the worst choice for cleans and although i play some melodic death metal, i like my cleans very much, and leads too...
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I need a bridge humbucker to have killer distortion
bkp's do not come with built-in distortion :lol:
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which BKP has the best 500k full bridge clean tone ?
Holy Diver by a mile :) NB a distant second, then PK, then MM...
where does the cold sweat fit in here? i'm struggling myself to choose BKP's for my future Rg1527. i was pointed out to MM but seems to be the worst choice for cleans and although i play some melodic death metal, i like my cleans very much, and leads too...
It's a good question - I didn't include it because I don't have a CS bridge & the original poster didn't ask about it.
Judging by the descriptions of others, it has a decent clean tone, better than MM...
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The CS has quite a sharp clean tone, with a touch of warmth. From my experience, and the BKPs I've had I'd rate them:
Warm ---------------------> Cold
HD................VHII...RR....CS
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The CS has quite a sharp clean tone, with a touch of warmth. From my experience, and the BKPs I've had I'd rate them:
Warm ---------------------> Cold
HD................VHII...RR....CS
Apologies for threadjack
Twinfan, how are you finding the Holy Diver? I remember reading that you'd just got some recently... :)
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I'll let you know after I've cranked 'em up tonight ;)
First impressions? They're a beefy, warmer VHII although that may be because of the guitar they're fitted in too...
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The CS has quite a sharp clean tone, with a touch of warmth. From my experience, and the BKPs I've had I'd rate them:
Warm ---------------------> Cold
HD................VHII...RR....CS
Just out of interest Dave, if you did the same exercise for the neck models, what would you have? I suspect it would be rather different.
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Good question Phil:
Warmer -----------> Colder/Less fat
HD......CS...VHII......RR
The range is a lot smaller, with less obvious "ends".
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Cheers Dave, that's roughly what I expected, but didn't know where the HD would fit in. :)
So it looks like the CS set has the biggest variation between neck and bridge, which may be one of the reasons I like it so much.
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Yep - those were my findings too :)