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Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: grooveht on October 03, 2005, 09:07:52 PM

Title: What do you use in the bridge of your strat?
Post by: grooveht on October 03, 2005, 09:07:52 PM: Hey Guys,
First post! I'm brand new to the forum here, but I've seen a few of you over at the SD forum...hope I'll be able to contribute!
I have an EB/MM Silhouette Special (basically a super strat) with a humbucker in the bridge that I'd like to replace with a BK pickup. What do you like in the bridge of your super strat?

-Jeff
Title: What do you use in the bridge of your strat?
Post by: Johnny Mac on October 03, 2005, 09:14:27 PM: Hi welcome to the forum!

I've got a Miracle Man in the bridge of my Charvel Model 6 plus two Trilogy Suite single coils. They sound brilliant!
Title: What do you use in the bridge of your strat?
Post by: grooveht on October 03, 2005, 09:18:13 PM: Hey Johnny, how are you?

I actually was thinking about a Miracle Man, as I'm a devout lover of ZW's Pride & Glory and Book of Shadows material...I was kind of afraid it'd be too bright though? I'll be playing through a PODxt/Atomic amp or a JCM 800 w. Keeley SD-1/marshall 1936. Is it pretty bright in your rig?

-Jeff
Title: What do you use in the bridge of your strat?
Post by: Johnny Mac on October 03, 2005, 09:21:52 PM: No not at all. It's got some serious bottom end as well as cutting through on the high stuff. Twilight Odyssey (Ben) in this forum has one in one of his George Lynch Super Srats too, with an Irish Tour in the neck. You will get a good Zakk tone with one alright.

Check out some of the sound clips. Look for Tim's Miracle Man clip.
Title: What do you use in the bridge of your strat?
Post by: grooveht on October 03, 2005, 09:31:38 PM: I had caught Tim's Miracle Man clip, but my real question was how much the construction of the EB/MM would change the tone (bolt neck, maple board, trem bridge, etc). Tim sure makes some mean sounding pickups! Thanks again for the help Johnny. Do you have any other BK pickups in other guitars?

-Jeff
Title: What do you use in the bridge of your strat?
Post by: Steve-Mr Pig 2U on October 03, 2005, 09:36:19 PM: I think The Miracle man may be too bright with a maple board. What Kind of tone are you looking for?
Crawlers and Nailbombs sound great in strats, they give them the balls that they seem to be missing.
Title: What do you use in the bridge of your strat?
Post by: grooveht on October 03, 2005, 09:40:33 PM: Hey Steve,
I was looking for something Zakk Wylde-ish, from the Pride & Glory era. If you've seen his pentatonic hardcore video, thats really what I'm looking for. I know the construction of the guitar, scale, etc will have some effect on it, but thats really my target.

Btw, are BK pickups 4 conductor? If possible I'd like to be able to split/parallel the bridge 'bucker.
Title: What do you use in the bridge of your strat?
Post by: Steve-Mr Pig 2U on October 03, 2005, 09:44:01 PM: We can supply all of our pickups with 4 conductors, no problem. The Miracle man would be my choice for the tone Zakk has now, Ive just got a feeling it may be too bright in that guitar. Are you looking for versatility, nice cleans etc?
Title: What do you use in the bridge of your strat?
Post by: grooveht on October 03, 2005, 09:49:05 PM: Would the nailbomb or warpig be a little thicker? Maybe the cold sweat? I'm not too familiar with the BK pickup family, so if I make an ass out of myself don't mind me ;) I am looking for a little versatility, but I normally use the bridge only for semi dirty or distorted tones...cleans are kinda secondary on this one...but sometimes I dig having a tapped bucker for distorted tones.
Title: What do you use in the bridge of your strat?
Post by: HJM on October 03, 2005, 09:56:11 PM: The Nailbomb would give an excellent tone - along the lines of the BKP demo Tim did with my Ibanez. It can get close to the ZW tone, but it's a bit more classic metal, the mids are more aggressive.

Ben (TO) has a Miracle Man in a maple bodied, maple neck SS I think - he's done lots of clips and doesn't sound too bright to me - have a search through the players section.

Oh - and hello!! :P
Title: What do you use in the bridge of your strat?
Post by: TwilightOdyssey on October 03, 2005, 10:16:41 PM: So many choices, and only 1 axe!

Well, it appears that you're not going to be playing metal; is this correct? If so, the Miracle Man might not be what you want ... it will give any pickup a run for its money, and to my ears, sounds like what the SD Distortion wants to be when it grows up ... tons of growl, sustain for days, very focused sound, will easily overdrive your amp. On clean tones, it is a bit compressed. It will do clean, but prefers distortion.

I have 3 s00per strats, all with different pickups in 'em.

Are you looking for something like a PAF with a hangover? Then I would recommend the VHII; that pickup has lots of attitude!

I have a Cold Sweat, but haven't installed it yet. :(

Edit: Oh yeah, welcome!
Title: What do you use in the bridge of your strat?
Post by: TwilightOdyssey on October 03, 2005, 10:24:50 PM: Are you B2B, btw? ;)
Title: What do you use in the bridge of your strat?
Post by: grooveht on October 03, 2005, 10:30:26 PM: Thanks for the warm welcome guys...

TO: The most metal I'd be getting would be instrumental rock/prog rock sort of tones...don't need something extreme enough for black metal or the like. You're right though, I don't need to play pantera on this axe.

And no, I still go by GrooveHT at the SD forum...I've just been away and lurking for a long while.
Title: What do you use in the bridge of your strat?
Post by: TwilightOdyssey on October 03, 2005, 10:33:40 PM: If I could make a recommendation, then, I could wholeheartely recommend the VHII in a super strat!
Title: What do you use in the bridge of your strat?
Post by: TwilightOdyssey on October 03, 2005, 10:38:01 PM: Quote from: grooveht
And no, I still go by GrooveHT at the SD forum...I've just been away and lurking for a long while.

Oops, my bad! B2B just posted about getting the same guitar!
Title: What do you use in the bridge of your strat?
Post by: big steve on October 03, 2005, 10:51:58 PM: Quote from: TwilightOdyssey

Are you looking for something like a PAF with a hangover? Then I would recommend the VHII; that pickup has lots of attitude!

last time i checked, hangovers weren't synonymous with attitude...
Title: What do you use in the bridge of your strat?
Post by: grooveht on October 03, 2005, 10:57:49 PM: Quote from: TwilightOdyssey
Quote from: grooveht
And no, I still go by GrooveHT at the SD forum...I've just been away and lurking for a long while.

Oops, my bad! B2B just posted about getting the same guitar!

no problem at all! Here's the one I just won:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7353605895&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&rd=1

would you say the VHII output is almost on par with a JB? Or not quite that hot? Sorry to be picking your brain here!
Title: What do you use in the bridge of your strat?
Post by: Steve-Mr Pig 2U on October 03, 2005, 11:28:15 PM: The VHII is alot lower output wise than the JB. The Nailbomb and Crawler are in the same sort of area. The crawler being the less of the two.
Title: What do you use in the bridge of your strat?
Post by: TwilightOdyssey on October 04, 2005, 03:07:10 PM: Quote from: grooveht
Here's the one I just won

That's a great looking fiddle!!

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would you say the VHII output is almost on par with a JB? Or not quite that hot? Sorry to be picking your brain here!

The volume of the output is comparable, but the sound is very different.
Where the JB has a big mid spike, the VHII is more open sounding, with a tighter bottom. It has way more snarl & bite than the JB, which I personally find to be a muddy mess.
When overdriven, the tone is focused and has great harmonics. It's not compressed at all, tho; very open sounding. The upper mids are very prominent (think 5kHz).
The only downside with the VHII is it can be a touch noisy ... here in NYC I pick up radio stations on occassion.
The VHII needs to have an overdrive pedal after it; however, I feel the same way about the JB.
Title: What do you use in the bridge of your strat?
Post by: Rainmaker on October 04, 2005, 03:42:03 PM: Don't you mean, B2D (Brendan), Ben?

Welcome GrooveHT!
Title: What do you use in the bridge of your strat?
Post by: grooveht on October 05, 2005, 01:27:14 AM: Steve, Ben, Bee, thanks for all the help! Think I'll go with a nailbomb or Crawler, as I'm still looking for pretty significant output I think. The VHII sounds great tone-wise, but a little low on the output side of things? Thanks again guys!

Jeff