Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum

Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: bucketshred on October 03, 2005, 09:38:37 PM

Title: Which one?
Post by: bucketshred on October 03, 2005, 09:38:37 PM: Right, new guitar at Chrimble time (got the amp sorted pretty much) and I have narrowed it down to two contenders...

In the white corner we have the...

(http://www.ibanezrules.com/namm/images/2004/P1010018.JPG)

Ibanez PGM, Paul Gilbert Sig model, original looks, dont see too many of the around, 24 frets, hardtail, DiMarzio PAF PRO in the neck and Bridge with a JEM single in the middle, bolt on neck, basswood body, reverse headstock etc...£659 (but probably less through work)

And in the red corner we have the...

(http://www.fender.com/new_repository/jackson/images/SL3_Soloist_md.jpg)

Jackson SL3, SD hot rails and JB, trem, 24 frets, neckthru, rosewood baord, alder body etc....£639

Now, Im stuck, the Jackson is very nice but it isn't very rockoutable, whereas the PGM is, plus you don't see them every day. But, I've only played one for all of 5 seconds...

See my dilemma?

Anyways, if anyone has any pros/cons about either of them, do share :)

Andy!
Title: Which one?
Post by: big steve on October 03, 2005, 10:30:32 PM: no custom made? you know you want to...
Title: Which one?
Post by: TwilightOdyssey on October 03, 2005, 10:43:21 PM: I wouldn't get either ....

'Tis your choice, man.
Title: Which one?
Post by: chrisola on October 03, 2005, 11:17:31 PM: i was going to get a PGM, as the volume control is in the 'right' place for me.. unlike the jackson...

in the end i paid £300 more and got my Legra axe, best of both worlds, unique to me, BKP equipped and EXACTLY what i wanted, no comprimises :D

You know you want a custom build... payment plans\arrangements are great (it takes a few weeks to go custom remember!!)
Title: Which one?
Post by: nuntius on October 03, 2005, 11:25:20 PM: Quote from: TwilightOdyssey
I wouldn't get either ....

'Tis your choice, man.

Agreed.

Between the two the PGM has more of what I'd personally want, but with that kinda cash there's a lot more to be found, especially if you look second hand!

I take it you're looking for a "shred" axe?
Title: Which one?
Post by: Searcher on October 04, 2005, 06:41:58 AM: I guess the question is: Do you want a locking trem or not?

I'd go for a custom-made guitar too, by the way. In fact I have.
Title: Which one?
Post by: bucketshred on October 04, 2005, 08:58:55 AM: Thing is, I'd go custom if I had the cash, I know that I'd go mental on the design front and it'd end up looking like something already in production.

Andy!
Title: Which one?
Post by: The amazing Phil on October 04, 2005, 10:41:11 AM: Personally, I really dig the PGM, but I think you should try and play it again for a little longer. Just to see if you do really like it.
Title: Which one?
Post by: lepersmeesa on October 04, 2005, 11:08:59 AM: I would get an RGA 121. I think they are awesome guitars. Really good feel. You can get them from www.guitarbargains.com super cheap like £400 quid and you would still have enough money to replace the pups with some bareknuckles.

Out of the two you have choose i would go with the PGM, mainly cus i hate HSS but i also hate HSH. I think they just get in the way and splitting a humbucker sounds really good for clean sounds.
Title: Which one?
Post by: indysmith on October 05, 2005, 08:57:08 PM: i really can't decide. i'd like one of them both actually. go for a custom build
Title: Which one?
Post by: willo on October 05, 2005, 09:19:34 PM: custom could be good, but I dont know if you'll be able to get much of a custom guitar for the price range you seem to be looking in (£650ish).

What about the new Maverick F-Series? They are supposed to be good in a similar price point.
Title: Which one?
Post by: bucketshred on October 05, 2005, 10:34:29 PM: Ah Maverick...

How about no? (Don't mean to be rude but I REALLY don't like Maverick!)

Andy!
Title: Which one?
Post by: HJM on October 05, 2005, 10:39:30 PM: Find a second hand late 80s RG, £200 usually, then get something else too!!
Title: Which one?
Post by: indysmith on October 05, 2005, 10:45:36 PM: Quote from: HJM
Find a second hand late 80s RG, £200 usually, then get something else too!!

Now Theres a good idea!!!
Title: Which one?
Post by: indysmith on October 05, 2005, 10:46:23 PM: Quote from: bucketshred
Ah Maverick...

How about no? (Don't mean to be rude but I REALLY don't like Maverick!)

Andy!

My friend's F1 ain't bad for the money. why don't you like them? I'd never have one, but i can see the appeal.
Title: Which one?
Post by: bucketshred on October 06, 2005, 09:02:14 AM: Well...

...I don't like them because that body scuplting is horrible, the neck and fretboard feel and look like arse, the hardware looks and feels cheap, the headstock is gash, my 10 year old sister could design a better one and the whole range screams 'NU-METAL'. Like Ibanez, the range of colours is limted to a maximum of 2, blue or black....and then darker blue or black.

And don't get me started on the controls!

To me, for a relativley new brand, the stock guitars have cr@ppy value for money, everyone I've spoke to about them praises them on the fact that I could throw a set of SD's, DM's or BKP's in there and play like a god...

Tbh, If I did that I'd spend around £500 on a sub-par (to me) axe, then say, I put a calibrated set of Miracle Men in it (another £170) thats £670 in total on something that I'm not entirely happy with.

I think, at the end of the day, I'll buy the Jackson, rip out and sell the JB and then stick a Nailbomb or something that will compliment the SD Hotrails in the neck and middle positions (ie, thick and high output!). I've gone off the PGM as the guitar seems like too much of a niche, why not have the Jackson and block off the bridge if I want to? Plus, I already have a guitar that it practically a hardtail with a maple board (my strat). And the Jackson comes in more colours, colour IS important!

Andy!
Title: Which one?
Post by: PhilKing on October 06, 2005, 12:06:38 PM: Put in a Nailbomb and 2 Trilogies and get the sound the Jackson wanted to have all along :twisted:
Title: Which one?
Post by: bucketshred on October 06, 2005, 10:13:19 PM: That's what I was thinking :D

Andy!