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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Miracle Man Matt on October 05, 2005, 02:03:25 PM

Title: right ive finally got an SD-1
Post by: Miracle Man Matt on October 05, 2005, 02:03:25 PM
bought it off ebay and now Ive had a bit of a fiddle with it.

only problem is that when used in conjunction with alot of gain on my Vox AD30VT valvetronix, its very noisy, especially if the tone dial is turned up.

I know keeley do mods and stuff, but being a student with a very limited budget, i was wondering what I could do to mod it myself to quieten it down.


now the problem is also apparent with my newly acquired Morley wah pro series.  so Im worried that it might actually be my amp that doesn't like effects pedals due to its modelling stuff, but Im not sure.  The wiring in my guitar is a bit iffy as well but I hope to sort that out, but I don't think its the main cause.

Anybody got any ideas

thanks

MMM
Title: right ive finally got an SD-1
Post by: chrisola on October 05, 2005, 03:11:53 PM
yeah, the sd-1 is noisy if the 'gain' dial is turned up, its best used with the level up high, gain down low, and the tone where ever sounds best... its meant to 'boost' the signal into an amp, and not to add 'distortion' to it 8)
Title: right ive finally got an SD-1
Post by: Miracle Man Matt on October 05, 2005, 03:36:25 PM
yea I know but,

 :twisted:   :twisted: ITS STILL NOT DIRRRTTTYYY ENOUGH :twisted:  :twisted:

 :lol:

MMM
Title: right ive finally got an SD-1
Post by: maliciousteve on October 05, 2005, 03:50:15 PM
Turn the gain down on the amp and add a bit more gain with the pedal and see how that sounds
Title: right ive finally got an SD-1
Post by: big steve on October 05, 2005, 04:35:27 PM
sd1 isn't for putting in front of a clean amp, you put it in front of an already overdriven tube amp. i would guess it wouldn't work too well with a modelling or SS amp, so it probably won't be thebest with the ad30vt,
Title: right ive finally got an SD-1
Post by: indysmith on October 05, 2005, 10:52:17 PM
Quote from: big steve
sd1 isn't for putting in front of a clean amp, you put it in front of an already overdriven tube amp. i would guess it wouldn't work too well with a modelling or SS amp, so it probably won't be thebest with the ad30vt,

he's got a good point man. overdrives FAR better with all-valve amps
Title: right ive finally got an SD-1
Post by: Miracle Man Matt on October 06, 2005, 10:26:21 AM
yea actually when ive got the gain at about 3 o'clock and the level jacked up full, it does sound pretty cool, but there still isn't enough for me  :twisted: .

I mean The amp does have a valve (pre amp) and I know that an all valve amp is better but actually it sounds really good.

its just that I wish that I could turn the level up even more.  Im thinking of getting another SD-1 and putting them in series!!!! (- can I do that?)

anyhow it was my fault for not fiddleing enough.  Anyone know what the DS-1 is like? as a boost?

thanks

Matt
Title: right ive finally got an SD-1
Post by: big steve on October 06, 2005, 08:26:35 PM
2 sd1s pushing a solid state amp will be a pretty nasty sound, IMHO. just save till you can buy an all valve amp. i'm looking for a keeley sd1 to drive my laney lc30 (not dissimilar to peavey classic 30 or traynor ycvs i believe). £99 though, yeoch
Title: right ive finally got an SD-1
Post by: willo on October 06, 2005, 08:32:11 PM
I use an analogman SD1 pushing my solid state amp; sounds pretty damn good actually, although I am craving some valves right now!

Steve, always keep an eye on Ebay for Keeley stuff, a lot of it seems to crop up there. In the normal auction people rarely seem to save money, but if you can go 'Buy It Now' there are savings to be had (i got a 3month old Keeley comp for £85!)
Title: right ive finally got an SD-1
Post by: Miracle Man Matt on October 07, 2005, 10:04:56 AM
yea i noticed that.  Well the thing isn't strictly solid state.  it acts just like a tube amp, and when its cranked with the right PU's it really is awesome.  being based on the AC30 my old guitar teacher who played in the shadows tribute band said that is sounded almost exactly like his AC30's, which is pretty good IMO.

would a pair of SD-1's in series work well or is this in general a bad idea?

MMM
Title: right ive finally got an SD-1
Post by: big steve on October 08, 2005, 11:38:56 AM
that would be in general a bad idea.
Title: right ive finally got an SD-1
Post by: HJM on October 08, 2005, 11:45:34 AM
The big problem with all modeling amps is that there's a analogue to digital converter at the start of the chain, clip this and the whole thing will sound nasty! It also prevents the amp from responding to pedals like a true valve amp, hence why the designers of such amps have taken to modeling pedal effects inside the amp. Your best bet is to keep the SD1 level not too high, and just a touch of gain to add a bit of hair to the sound 8)