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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Custom79 on October 05, 2005, 07:48:48 PM

Title: Zak Wylde Marshall head .... how much ??
Post by: Custom79 on October 05, 2005, 07:48:48 PM
Hi guys,
My mate has a Zak Wylde Marshall head for sale on eBay, fifty folk watching it but he's been offered £1200 for it.

Any idea how much these are worth in the UK ?

What do you think Tim, I know you use them ?
Title: Zak Wylde Marshall head .... how much ??
Post by: Tim on October 06, 2005, 12:45:44 PM
Well I got my last one for £650 inc the cab and that was brand new so £1200 is well over the top. A reissue or old JCM 800 with 6550s will do the same thing at half that price too.If he gets it, good on him but it's not worth it IMHO.I'm not knocking the amps as I love mine but it's just way too much money, they where supposed to be £1200 brand new inc cab but none of the shops ever sold them for that.
Title: Zak Wylde Marshall head .... how much ??
Post by: Custom79 on October 06, 2005, 01:21:46 PM
Cheers for that Tim, I thought it was a bit crazy too but the guy is taking it for £1200  :?:
I couple of my mates have been to Marshall demos lately and been offered silly money by Jim Marshall for amps they no longer have, one of my mates who works for Marshall says he does it all the time and it's a nightmare.
He told a friend of mine a few weeks ago he would have given him£8000 for an old Marshall he used to own, can't remember the model but it certainly wasn't vintage.
My mate with the Zak also has a mint Jubilee head and Jim offered him £6000 for that.
Title: Zak Wylde Marshall head .... how much ??
Post by: indysmith on October 06, 2005, 02:35:59 PM
whoah! next time i see jim, i'll see if he wants to buy my amp!
Title: Zak Wylde Marshall head .... how much ??
Post by: big steve on October 06, 2005, 08:24:27 PM
damn! now i wish i had hung on to my mg100dfx...
Title: Zak Wylde Marshall head .... how much ??
Post by: Davey on October 06, 2005, 09:36:44 PM
Quote from: big steve
damn! now i wish i had hung on to my mg100dfx...

prolly jim would pay you to keep it away from him
Title: Zak Wylde Marshall head .... how much ??
Post by: willo on October 06, 2005, 10:05:58 PM
Quote from: Davey
Quote from: big steve
damn! now i wish i had hung on to my mg100dfx...

prolly jim would pay you to keep it away from him


 :lol:

Personally, i just dont understand why, if Marshall's newer amps are inferior to the old ones (and Jim seems to be acknowledging this by buying back old ones), why Marshall don't just make better amps today?
Title: Zak Wylde Marshall head .... how much ??
Post by: big steve on October 06, 2005, 10:08:39 PM
because revenue - costs = profit
Title: Zak Wylde Marshall head .... how much ??
Post by: willo on October 06, 2005, 10:26:58 PM
Quote from: big steve
because revenue - costs = profit


so where are people looking now if they want that classic Marshall tone?

I checked out Dennis Cornell's Plexi's, they look pretty cool.
Title: Zak Wylde Marshall head .... how much ??
Post by: HJM on October 07, 2005, 08:02:44 AM
An old Marshall:lol:

Actually the handwired series looks OK, there's lots of people doing what MArshall should be doing. Rivera, Roccaforte, Krank, Cornell, there's another English builder I came accross at LGS (I can see the guy but can't remember his name....)the list goes on.
Title: Zak Wylde Marshall head .... how much ??
Post by: Johnny Mac on October 07, 2005, 08:14:23 PM
Quote from: Custom79
Cheers for that Tim, I thought it was a bit crazy too but the guy is taking it for £1200  :?:
I couple of my mates have been to Marshall demos lately and been offered silly money by Jim Marshall for amps they no longer have, one of my mates who works for Marshall says he does it all the time and it's a nightmare.
He told a friend of mine a few weeks ago he would have given him£8000 for an old Marshall he used to own, can't remember the model but it certainly wasn't vintage.
My mate with the Zak also has a mint Jubilee head and Jim offered him £6000 for that.


Why? That's insane money!
Title: Zak Wylde Marshall head .... how much ??
Post by: maliciousteve on October 07, 2005, 11:36:56 PM
They should of Re-issued the JCM900 2100 model, not the 4100. Apparently the 2100 is the best of the 900's. I decided to keep my JCM900, i had a good go on it yesterday (cranked up of course) it can do every thing i want it to, i just needed to know how to. I wouldn't go near the DSL and TSL amps, the other guitarist in my band has one and i don't like it at all. They really should bring back the old models.
Title: Zak Wylde Marshall head .... how much ??
Post by: fps_dean on May 19, 2006, 12:51:35 AM
Quote from: willo
Quote from: Davey
Quote from: big steve
damn! now i wish i had hung on to my mg100dfx...

prolly jim would pay you to keep it away from him


 :lol:

Personally, i just dont understand why, if Marshall's newer amps are inferior to the old ones (and Jim seems to be acknowledging this by buying back old ones), why Marshall don't just make better amps today?


A bit late, but the reason that they don't make amps like they used to is because they can make them cheaply and people will still buy them.  I thought the JCM 900s were their last decent amps, the earlier ones when they still used good transformers being the best of the bunch.  I can't stomach the JCM 2000s at all, cold and fizzy POS even after a rebias, and the reissues are absolutely no comparison to the old ones.

Quote from: HJM
Actually the handwired series looks OK, there's lots of people doing what MArshall should be doing. Rivera, Roccaforte, Krank, Cornell, there's another English builder I came accross at LGS (I can see the guy but can't remember his name....)the list goes on.


Right on.  I'd still buy an old Marshall, '69-'74 because you can get them cheaply, but Roccafortes are today's old Marshalls but with a price tag too.  If I had excess money, I would certainly buy one!

Quote from: maliciousteve
They should of Re-issued the JCM900 2100 model, not the 4100. Apparently the 2100 is the best of the 900's. I decided to keep my JCM900, i had a good go on it yesterday (cranked up of course) it can do every thing i want it to, i just needed to know how to. I wouldn't go near the DSL and TSL amps, the other guitarist in my band has one and i don't like it at all. They really should bring back the old models.


Right on.  I agree 100% about the JCM 2000 vs 900s, 800s, JMPs, plexis, etc.  I have a 2100 SL-X which is what I would have liked to see them reissue.  It still has the tubes biased stock (cold) and does not sound close to 100% its potential but it's stil a huge step up from a properly biased JCM 2000 without a massive amount of mods.  I will be getting a Marstran '68-'80 era transformer put into my SL-X and a few mods to it to make it sound like a hotrodded plexi.  I've heard from so many people that the Marstran transformers are a perfect replica of the real deal.  I'll let you know how that all works out - I'll be bringing it in for work next week sometime!
Title: Zak Wylde Marshall head .... how much ??
Post by: Twinfan on May 19, 2006, 08:55:54 AM
Quote from: willo
so where are people looking now if they want that classic Marshall tone?


I've gone to Laney - a 70's 60w Klipp and a GH50L.  Completely smoked my JTM60.  I got both heads for roughly the same price I sold my JTM60 combo for last night.
Title: Zak Wylde Marshall head .... how much ??
Post by: fps_dean on May 24, 2006, 02:16:32 AM
Quote from: willo
so where are people looking now if they want that classic Marshall tone?


There are a few, expensive "boutique" amps out there that will do it.  Other than buying an old Marshall (which is what I would do, and is the cheaper option to boot), you are probably best off with a Roccaforte if for whatever reason you cannot find and old Marshall.
Title: Re: Zak Wylde Marshall head .... how much ??
Post by: fps_dean on May 24, 2006, 02:17:11 AM
Quote from: Custom79
Hi guys,
My mate has a Zak Wylde Marshall head for sale on eBay, fifty folk watching it but he's been offered £1200 for it.

Any idea how much these are worth in the UK ?

What do you think Tim, I know you use them ?


For that price you should be able to buy a vertical input JCM 800 - the real thing and there is a huge difference in sound too ;)
Title: Zak Wylde Marshall head .... how much ??
Post by: Bainzy on May 24, 2006, 11:32:46 AM
Quote from: willo
Quote from: big steve
because revenue - costs = profit


so where are people looking now if they want that classic Marshall tone?

I checked out Dennis Cornell's Plexi's, they look pretty cool.


The only place you'll get an EXACT replica of a vintage Marshall is from Metroamp (http://www.metroamp.com), their clones are far superior than anything Marshall are putting out, and that's including the handwired series.

I mean check this out:

http://www.metroamp.com/amps_68_100_watt.php

:drool:
Title: Zak Wylde Marshall head .... how much ??
Post by: Andy RV on May 24, 2006, 11:55:14 AM
Also check out Splawn for marshall clones.

http://www.splawnguitars.com/amps_products.htm
Title: Zak Wylde Marshall head .... how much ??
Post by: fps_dean on May 25, 2006, 12:10:40 AM
Quote from: Bainzy
Quote from: willo
Quote from: big steve
because revenue - costs = profit


so where are people looking now if they want that classic Marshall tone?

I checked out Dennis Cornell's Plexi's, they look pretty cool.


The only place you'll get an EXACT replica of a vintage Marshall is from Metroamp (http://www.metroamp.com), their clones are far superior than anything Marshall are putting out, and that's including the handwired series.

I mean check this out:

http://www.metroamp.com/amps_68_100_watt.php

:drool:


Damn those things even look just like an old Marshall.  There's something that looks closer than a Roccaforte!