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Forum Ringside => Tech => Topic started by: CJ on January 16, 2009, 04:32:20 PM

Title: filling in a trem cavity
Post by: CJ on January 16, 2009, 04:32:20 PM
hey, i've got another question here. i'm looking at a guitar on ebay... it originally had one of those string through tailpieces, you can see the holes on the back of the guitar. on the front its been routed out for a kahler type tremolo. do any of you luthiers here have any idea of how much it cost to either have a spring cavity routed out, or the trem cavity filled in and restored to original?
Title: Re: filling in a floyd cavity
Post by: Will on January 16, 2009, 04:42:42 PM
Feline plugged my dodgy Kahler rout and rerouted it cleanly for about £400 i thinks. I think that entailed a little bit extra work though.

To get it restored to original, the refinish would be a chunk of the costs
Title: Re: filling in a floyd cavity
Post by: CJ on January 16, 2009, 05:00:45 PM
there's pretty much no paint on the guitar right now, so i'm not too worried about it.
Title: Re: filling in a floyd cavity
Post by: WezV on January 16, 2009, 05:07:25 PM
wasnt yours an LP will, doing it on a curved top guitar affects the price.. at least i does when i do it - shouldnt speak for jonathan

is the kahler route bad or do you just not like kahlers?   a description of the guitar may help as well
Title: Re: filling in a floyd cavity
Post by: Will on January 16, 2009, 05:13:25 PM
Yeah, apologies about that, didn't see that as an extra cost
Title: Re: filling in a floyd cavity
Post by: WezV on January 16, 2009, 06:03:29 PM
i guess you have never tried using a flat based router on a carved top guitar ;)
Title: Re: filling in a floyd cavity
Post by: CJ on January 16, 2009, 06:34:05 PM

is the kahler route bad or do you just not like kahlers?   a description of the guitar may help as well

well a kahler would need a spring cavity, correct? currently there's only a route for the trem, but no spring cavity. so i figure i have two options, route out a spring cavity, or fill the trem cavity in. and i figure if i have to do something either way, might as well put it back to original.

this is all assuming i actually get the guitar though...
Title: Re: filling in a floyd cavity
Post by: WezV on January 16, 2009, 06:48:24 PM
The kahler route is only on the front, well for most kahlers anyway

silver guitar on this page shows what the route should look like

http://www.wammiworld.com/Routing.html
Title: Re: filling in a floyd cavity
Post by: PhilKing on January 16, 2009, 06:48:25 PM
Kahlers only use 2 small springs which are under the baseplate.  No rear routing is required.
Title: Re: filling in a floyd cavity
Post by: CJ on January 16, 2009, 06:52:30 PM
Kahlers only use 2 small springs which are under the baseplate.  No rear routing is required.

ah, now thats a whole different story! i thought all trems needed a rear spring cavity. are kahlers floating trems? or can they only dive?

thats good that i don't need to do anything then. but, just for reference, any ideas of cost to fill it in?
Title: Re: filling in a floyd cavity
Post by: WezV on January 16, 2009, 06:54:54 PM
both, loads of info and variations on kahlers on the website i linked to. 
Title: Re: filling in a floyd cavity
Post by: CJ on January 16, 2009, 07:16:18 PM
both, loads of info and variations on kahlers on the website i linked to. 

sorry, i missed your last post. thanks.
Title: Re: filling in a trem cavity
Post by: WezV on January 16, 2009, 08:05:58 PM
blame Phil and his post 1 second after mine!! :P
Title: Re: filling in a floyd cavity
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on January 16, 2009, 11:33:59 PM
Yeah, apologies about that, didn't see that as an extra cost

There was a lot to that job Will - including the curved front issue.

You can rarely make that kind of job invisible though