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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Steve-Mr Pig 2U on October 07, 2005, 08:06:21 PM

Title: My first guitar... H.R. Giger Ibanez RG
Post by: Steve-Mr Pig 2U on October 07, 2005, 08:06:21 PM
Ive been playing Bass for about 4 years now and I recently decided to take up playing guitar as well. When I saw this I HAD to get it... So the nice people at Sounds Great music sorted me out with one!
Ive been a massive fan of H.R. Giger's art work for years and I must say when I see the words "graphic print" to describe a guitars finish Im usually appalled by the result, But this was different.
I couldn't think of better pickups than the Warpig humbucker set to compliment the guitar... They sound shockingly good.
I know recently there has been a debate over Ibanez's quality, but I can say this guitar is faultless, it plays exceptionally well, and for the money you can’t knock it.
Title: My first guitar... H.R. Giger Ibanez RG
Post by: WITH FULL DISTORTION on October 07, 2005, 08:17:05 PM
extremely beautiful axe man
congratulations
do you have any problems of detuning using this new BRIDGE by ibanez?
i heard you have to do some trickys to solve a problem etc. don´t know
ibanezrules.com or a similar site talked about it.
and.. before installed the warpigs.. did you feel any loss of sustain with the original pickups?!
Hails
J.P
ANY CHANCE TO POST SOME SOUNDCLIPS OF THE WARPIGS withfull distortion and METALIZED riffs?
is it tuned standard?
Hails
J.P
Title: My first guitar... H.R. Giger Ibanez RG
Post by: Steve-Mr Pig 2U on October 07, 2005, 08:38:43 PM
The original pickups were horrible; they had little power and sounded very dull. I haven't had a chance to de tune it yet as I only got it yesterday; it’s tuned to E flat at the moment. I will post some clips up soon.
Title: My first guitar... H.R. Giger Ibanez RG
Post by: Kemra on October 07, 2005, 08:46:45 PM
WOW!!!! Congrats Steve that is an absolutely awesome axe, very beautiful!!! Welcome to the world of guitar playing.
Title: My first guitar... H.R. Giger Ibanez RG
Post by: HJM on October 07, 2005, 09:01:48 PM
Nice Steve - you didn't waste any time 'piging it did you!? :twisted:
Title: My first guitar... H.R. Giger Ibanez RG
Post by: Johnny Mac on October 07, 2005, 09:29:35 PM
Looks cool with the 'pigs man!
Title: My first guitar... H.R. Giger Ibanez RG
Post by: Tol on October 07, 2005, 09:39:24 PM
Man I would of grabbed that just as fast of you probably did!
Title: My first guitar... H.R. Giger Ibanez RG
Post by: Steve-Mr Pig 2U on October 07, 2005, 09:51:34 PM
Thanks guys. Its very strange playing the guitar after playing bass... I haven't held a pick in about 3 years! Any one who wants to try out the pigs can have a go at music live!
Title: My first guitar... H.R. Giger Ibanez RG
Post by: MDV on October 07, 2005, 10:39:03 PM
That is very fuc!<ing cool!
Title: My first guitar... H.R. Giger Ibanez RG
Post by: maliciousteve on October 07, 2005, 11:32:10 PM
Quote from: Steve-Mr Pig 2U
Thanks guys. Its very strange playing the guitar after playing bass... I haven't held a pick in about 3 years! Any one who wants to try out the pigs can have a go at music live!


will do steve, i should have quite a bit of money if i get this new job im after, so you might tempt me into getting a Geiger Ibanez  :D
Title: My first guitar... H.R. Giger Ibanez RG
Post by: Davey on October 07, 2005, 11:35:12 PM
like i said to some people before.. the only ibanez i would be proud owning thus far


you like geiger graphics.. i wonder if you'd like this one:

http://www.jacksonguitars.com/customshop/photo_gallery.php?pg=10
Title: My first guitar... H.R. Giger Ibanez RG
Post by: Skybone on October 08, 2005, 05:44:48 AM
Nice looking guitar Steve! Especially now it's got some 'pigs in there.  :D

Always loved Giger's work since I saw Alien many a moon ago, and then seeing more of his work on album covers, like Celtic Frost's "To Mega Therio" and Carcass's "Heartwork".
Title: My first guitar... H.R. Giger Ibanez RG
Post by: jt on October 08, 2005, 07:10:31 AM
:D Congrates Steve ! Looks positivley Evil with the pigs in !!   :twisted:

 :D  8)
Title: My first guitar... H.R. Giger Ibanez RG
Post by: 38thBeatle on October 08, 2005, 08:09:58 AM
He'll be posting a shred version of Kumbaya soon. There won't be a dry eye in the house.
Title: My first guitar... H.R. Giger Ibanez RG
Post by: Ratrod on October 08, 2005, 01:47:39 PM
Sick lookin' axe. The pigs look great in it.

I noticed you have the pole screws screwed way in. How does that affect the sound? (Mine are sticking out.)
Title: ESP, Ibanez, cool basic guitars
Post by: Jagwyre on October 08, 2005, 02:09:52 PM
I love my ESP, I like it better than guitars that cost 4 times as much.  Can't wait to put VH2s in it!  I just like the feel of those guitars, plus I customize things anyway and if the wood and tolerances are good, a $450 guitar can sound like a million bucks with a few hundred in mods....
Title: My first guitar... H.R. Giger Ibanez RG
Post by: jt on October 08, 2005, 03:06:55 PM
Quote from: 38thBeatle
He'll be posting a shred version of Kumbaya soon. There won't be a dry eye in the house.


 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

 :D  8)
Title: My first guitar... H.R. Giger Ibanez RG
Post by: Steve-Mr Pig 2U on October 08, 2005, 03:43:24 PM
We found screwing the pole screws further in allows you to get the whole pickup closer to the strings, gives you a touch more bottom end and clarity.
Gigers sculpture on Heartwork is cool... Ive always wanted to go to the Giger museum in Switzerland.
Title: My first guitar... H.R. Giger Ibanez RG
Post by: Ratrod on October 08, 2005, 05:40:27 PM
OK. I'll screw in the allen bolts on mine and see/hear what happens.
Title: My first guitar... H.R. Giger Ibanez RG
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on October 08, 2005, 05:50:09 PM
Heres one of mine that my friend airbrushed in a Giger style
I too love the look of his work

The knobs were skull knobs to go with the whole Alien concept
"In space no-one can hear you shred!!"[/b]
Title: My first guitar... H.R. Giger Ibanez RG
Post by: Ratrod on October 08, 2005, 06:21:23 PM
NIce guitar, beautifull artwork. Uhhmm......that lower horn.....is that the alien's uhhm....you know....reproductive organ?
Title: My first guitar... H.R. Giger Ibanez RG
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on October 08, 2005, 06:25:56 PM
Quote from: Ratrod
NIce guitar, beautifull artwork. Uhhmm......that lower horn.....is that the alien's uhhm....you know....reproductive organ?


OMG!!! :oops:  :oops:  :oops:
Title: My first guitar... H.R. Giger Ibanez RG
Post by: Steve-Mr Pig 2U on October 08, 2005, 07:14:26 PM
Thats so funny. Gigers artwork is very hard to reproduce. Ive never seen a guitar with it done correctly, except the new Ibanez range.
Title: My first guitar... H.R. Giger Ibanez RG
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on October 08, 2005, 07:19:28 PM
I love your new axe Steve - it's awesome looking!!!! :P
Title: My first guitar... H.R. Giger Ibanez RG
Post by: indysmith on October 08, 2005, 09:22:44 PM
I certainly is very kewl!!! i'd love to see it in the flesh!
Title: My first guitar... H.R. Giger Ibanez RG
Post by: willo on October 08, 2005, 09:27:59 PM
Quote from: Ratrod
NIce guitar, beautifull artwork. Uhhmm......that lower horn.....is that the alien's uhhm....you know....reproductive organ?


c--k rock?
Title: My first guitar... H.R. Giger Ibanez RG
Post by: WITH FULL DISTORTION on October 09, 2005, 12:10:36 AM
ahahah You guys are a fking COMEDY
ahahahahahahahah ROFLMAO
Title: My first guitar... H.R. Giger Ibanez RG
Post by: indysmith on October 09, 2005, 12:49:30 AM
yep, you certainly are a comedy  :wink:
Title: My first guitar... H.R. Giger Ibanez RG
Post by: Davey on October 09, 2005, 01:40:48 AM
i suddenly need a geiger graphic =/
Title: My first guitar... H.R. Giger Ibanez RG
Post by: Steve-Mr Pig 2U on October 09, 2005, 01:57:08 AM
I would like the Iceman version one day. Ive got a few of his prints and a big pile of Gigers books, so when I saw this I had to get one! Im oging to be posting a clip in a couple of weeks, Im going to do a ceramic 7 string warpig one too.
Title: My first guitar... H.R. Giger Ibanez RG
Post by: bucketshred on October 10, 2005, 10:47:22 AM
Thing is, don't most of Giger's pictures have a penis in them somewhere?

Andy!
Title: My first guitar... H.R. Giger Ibanez RG
Post by: bucketshred on October 10, 2005, 02:17:49 PM
Oh, nice guitar too mate :D

Andy!
Title: My first guitar... H.R. Giger Ibanez RG
Post by: rinse_master on October 10, 2005, 02:33:18 PM
Quote from: Steve-Mr Pig 2U
Im going to do a ceramic 7 string warpig one too.


Thats sounds interesting, nice guitar!
Title: My first guitar... H.R. Giger Ibanez RG
Post by: Steve-Mr Pig 2U on October 10, 2005, 07:05:07 PM
Quote from: bucketshred
Thing is, don't most of Giger's pictures have a penis in them somewhere?

Andy!


Not all of them, but he draws alot of inspiration from the human body.
Title: My first guitar... H.R. Giger Ibanez RG
Post by: willo on October 10, 2005, 07:20:59 PM
Quote from: bucketshred
Thing is, don't most of Giger's pictures have a penis in them somewhere?

Andy!


well there is an obvious sexuality to his most famous work in Alien, for example. I havent really studied Giger, but i did write a study on gender roles in Alien for university...for instance the openings to the alien ship are very sapphic and sexual, being damp and all that, and the pods the facehuggers are in are obviously phallic. Interestingly, its this male sexual symbol that gives birth to the creature...and then John Hurt gives 'birth' too, and so Ripley has to assert her gender role as life giver (which has been taken away from her by the alien), conversely by bringing death upon the creature. Simone de Beauvior once said that 'mother is both life giver and death bringer', and of course, let us not forget that the very centre of the conspiracy to kill Ripley and the crew is the central computer, of couse called 'Mother'. :!:

Anyway, nice guitar man, saw one in a shop today - looks (and sounds, no doubt) better with the warpigs in!
Title: My first guitar... H.R. Giger Ibanez RG
Post by: Ratrod on October 10, 2005, 07:25:54 PM
Did they really thought about all that when they wrote the script?

To quote Freud:"Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar."
Title: My first guitar... H.R. Giger Ibanez RG
Post by: willo on October 10, 2005, 07:29:51 PM
well no, not necessarily in the conscious mind, but there is a psychological subtext at work - what is it that made them put such penis-like objects in the work in the first place? its all in the subconscious... :wink:
Title: My first guitar... H.R. Giger Ibanez RG
Post by: Ratrod on October 10, 2005, 07:37:00 PM
The subconscious of the creator........or the beholder....

Did the artist paint a penis in the lower horn of that guitar or did I see one in there?  :stupid:  :gne:
Title: My first guitar... H.R. Giger Ibanez RG
Post by: Tim on October 10, 2005, 09:02:20 PM
Screw them down Ratty and crank the p/up height...........you'll get even more power out of the beasts 8).
Title: My first guitar... H.R. Giger Ibanez RG
Post by: The amazing Phil on October 11, 2005, 01:07:13 AM
That geiger axe looks awesome man, especially with those pigs sitting in it! The iceman is decidedly phallic though...was that intentional? :lol:
Title: My first guitar... H.R. Giger Ibanez RG
Post by: PhilKing on October 11, 2005, 01:12:56 AM
Nice guitar Steve.  I thought you were a committed bass player though  :P
Title: My first guitar... H.R. Giger Ibanez RG
Post by: Ratrod on October 11, 2005, 12:04:42 PM
Quote from: Tim
Screw them down Ratty and crank the p/up height...........you'll get even more power out of the beasts 8).


I tried but one of the allen bolts won't go in. (neck side, low E string)
Title: My first guitar... H.R. Giger Ibanez RG
Post by: Afghan Dave on October 11, 2005, 01:59:15 PM
Ratrod...

I was going to do this with my 'pig but worried about that happening.

I'm watching this thread intently.. I'm sure Tim wouldn't recommend it if we couldn't do it but the last thing I want to do is damage my beloved pig.

Could we have a scared idiots guide to "screwing the 'pig you love"?

Should I be firm - press down hard and go all the way?

What if I feel some ressitance, should I stop or withdraw slightly?

What if my tool doesn't fit perfectly?

I want to do this but it is my first time...

(I don't intend the above to sound suggestive on anything but pickup modification... honestly)
Title: My first guitar... H.R. Giger Ibanez RG
Post by: Davey on October 11, 2005, 02:56:45 PM
that post should be censored


to quote JP:



AHahaHAAHAhahaHHaHAHahAhHAHHahaHaHAHahAHaHAHaHAHaHAHAHaHahahA

$%&#ing anal fags
Title: My first guitar... H.R. Giger Ibanez RG
Post by: Ratrod on October 11, 2005, 05:49:34 PM
I solved the problem. The hole in the coil/bobbin underneath the cover was to small. I've ruined a small piece of the thread of the bolt while screwing it down. I had to drill out the hole a little bit and it worked. Pretty scary, isn't it?

I like the sound, it sounds better for stock tuning. There's a lot more 'push' from the pickup. More screaming, less belching/grunting.
Title: My first guitar... H.R. Giger Ibanez RG
Post by: Steve-Mr Pig 2U on October 11, 2005, 09:47:07 PM
Quote from: PhilKing
Nice guitar Steve.  I thought you were a committed bass player though  :P


I look at bass and guitar as two completely different instruments. Bass is a rhythm instrument, like the drums and should be used as a solid background for the guitar. While I have great respect for super fast solo bassist’s ability, I do not believe that is how the instrument should be used.

Ratrod... You shouldn't be able to damage the Pup in any way; the resistance met will be the screw against the hole in the cover.
Title: My first guitar... H.R. Giger Ibanez RG
Post by: indysmith on October 11, 2005, 10:03:06 PM
hehe, until this post came up, i didn't even know yu played bass! I'm definately with yu on that one steve. I'm not usually into solo bass on records. however - it is always interesting and somewhat amazing to see live. did anyone else see that dude at LGS? i didnt know who he was (not up to date on my bass players) but he was AWESOME at solo bass. by the entrance, and that stall selling strings and straps, and lil guitar accessories like that
Title: My first guitar... H.R. Giger Ibanez RG
Post by: Johnny Mac on October 11, 2005, 10:07:00 PM
Quote from: Afghan Dave
Ratrod...

I was going to do this with my 'pig but worried about that happening.

I'm watching this thread intently.. I'm sure Tim wouldn't recommend it if we couldn't do it but the last thing I want to do is damage my beloved pig.

Could we have a scared idiots guide to "screwing the 'pig you love"?

Should I be firm - press down hard and go all the way?

What if I feel some ressitance, should I stop or withdraw slightly?

What if my tool doesn't fit perfectly?

I want to do this but it is my first time...

(I don't intend the above to sound suggestive on anything but pickup modification... honestly)



:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: My first guitar... H.R. Giger Ibanez RG
Post by: Johnny Mac on October 11, 2005, 10:12:01 PM
John Entwhistle used to do some nice bass solos and the bloke from Free. I hate it when producers have the bass really low in the mix. I just think why bother to have bass there when you can't hear it properly.

Sytem's Shavo Odadjian sounds like thunder on their tunes. That's the way it should be man!
Title: My first guitar... H.R. Giger Ibanez RG
Post by: willo on October 11, 2005, 10:22:36 PM
but but but, 'Portrait of Tracey' is beautiful!
Title: My first guitar... H.R. Giger Ibanez RG
Post by: Afghan Dave on October 12, 2005, 12:21:16 AM
Really...

Should I go ahead and screw down the Allen bolts?

Could anything at all go very badly wrong?

I sure as hell don't want to be drilling anything. I don't like to mess up something that is fine in the hope of getting something better without a push.

OK, OK I'm a wuss.
Title: My first guitar... H.R. Giger Ibanez RG
Post by: Steve-Mr Pig 2U on October 12, 2005, 12:23:13 AM
Quote from: Afghan Dave
Really...

Should I go ahead and screw down the Allen bolts?

Could anything at all go very badly wrong?

I sure as hell don't want to be drilling anything. I don't like to mess up something that is fine in the hope of getting something better without a push.

OK, OK I'm a wuss.


Go for it! theres no damage to be done. The worst that could happen is you could slip and scratch the cover!
Title: My first guitar... H.R. Giger Ibanez RG
Post by: Afghan Dave on October 12, 2005, 12:36:59 AM
Thank you!

Consider that 'pig screwed...
Title: My first guitar... H.R. Giger Ibanez RG
Post by: lepersmeesa on October 12, 2005, 12:41:07 AM
Quote from: Johnny Mac
John Entwhistle used to do some nice bass solos and the bloke from Free. I hate it when producers have the bass really low in the mix. I just think why bother to have bass there when you can't hear it properly.

Sytem's Shavo Odadjian sounds like thunder on their tunes. That's the way it should be man!


shame its not him on the new albums.
Title: My first guitar... H.R. Giger Ibanez RG
Post by: withoutwarning on October 12, 2005, 11:55:58 AM
Great looking gtr Steve...congrrats :)

HR Giger certainly produces some awesome artwork...remember the cover for Steve Stevens Atomic Playboys album???
Title: My first guitar... H.R. Giger Ibanez RG
Post by: Johnny Mac on October 12, 2005, 05:51:23 PM
Quote from: lepersmeesa
Quote from: Johnny Mac
John Entwhistle used to do some nice bass solos and the bloke from Free. I hate it when producers have the bass really low in the mix. I just think why bother to have bass there when you can't hear it properly.

Sytem's Shavo Odadjian sounds like thunder on their tunes. That's the way it should be man!


shame its not him on the new albums.


I read that somewhere too. Is Malakian a bit of an ego head in the studio perhaps and thought he could do it better?
Title: My first guitar... H.R. Giger Ibanez RG
Post by: lepersmeesa on October 12, 2005, 07:49:35 PM
Malkian thought that some of the riffs were too "technical" which i find laughable. Shavo is more then capable of playing those bass lines. However if anyone has seen the DVD which came with Toxicity it is quite funny that the drummer did his parts in around 6 days and Shavo took 6 weeks to do his bass parts.

I wasnt too impressed by the latest album, i thought the guitar tone was horrid. It made me laugh even more when Daron said he that the guitar tone took so long to create hanging acoustic guitars in certain areas of the room, etc.
Title: My first guitar... H.R. Giger Ibanez RG
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on October 13, 2005, 11:18:52 AM
Quote from: withoutwarning
Great looking gtr Steve...congrrats :)

HR Giger certainly produces some awesome artwork...remember the cover for Steve Stevens Atomic Playboys album???



I was just about to post about the Steve Stevens album cover - having been looking at it last night and saw that you beat me to it.


Giger is amazing....it's hard not to like his work
Title: My first guitar... H.R. Giger Ibanez RG
Post by: PhilKing on October 13, 2005, 12:06:35 PM
Quote from: Steve-Mr Pig 2U
I look at bass and guitar as two completely different instruments. Bass is a rhythm instrument, like the drums and should be used as a solid background for the guitar. While I have great respect for super fast solo bassist’s ability, I do not believe that is how the instrument should be used.


I play both, and also think a lot like you, unless the bass lead enhances the song, as Andy Fraser's does in Mister Big (Free).  I can't imagine the song without that bass part.  Having said that, he never loses the rhythmic thread that is holding the song together.

Another one I like is really obscure, I took it to Ben to listen to through his $60,000 stereo system (in the shop  :P ).  It is Billy Sheehan doing 'Oh Well' - the Peter Green Fleetwood Mac song.  Again the bass still follows the song while still being very interesting (and using the whammy bar too!).
Title: My first guitar... H.R. Giger Ibanez RG
Post by: Steve-Mr Pig 2U on October 13, 2005, 08:49:54 PM
The Atomic playboy cover was the last albumb cover he was commisioned to do. Check this link for all of them.

http://www.hrgiger.com/frame.htm
Title: My first guitar... H.R. Giger Ibanez RG
Post by: Ratrod on October 13, 2005, 09:30:51 PM
I want one of those mic stands. I quite like that Iceman too. Very alien looking. Can't imagine anything else but pigs in those. How about Giger inspired pickup covers? :idea:
Title: My first guitar... H.R. Giger Ibanez RG
Post by: Steve-Mr Pig 2U on October 13, 2005, 09:34:05 PM
Yeh those mic stands were commisioned by Johnathan davis of Korn... very nice.
I would like the iceman one day. Giger covers! I tried it, very hard.