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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: FELINEGUITARS on February 05, 2009, 07:00:07 PM

Title: JET FRETZ
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on February 05, 2009, 07:00:07 PM
http://www.myspace.com/jetfretzdemo (http://www.myspace.com/jetfretzdemo)

Looks weird but very interesting!
Title: Re: JET FRETZ
Post by: Denim n Leather on February 05, 2009, 07:15:32 PM
Those are massive! I bet SRV woulda loved 'em. PDT_008
Title: Re: JET FRETZ
Post by: FernandoDuarte on February 05, 2009, 07:39:45 PM
It's ugly... :?
Not sure if works as they say too...
Title: Re: JET FRETZ
Post by: Madiac on February 05, 2009, 07:48:34 PM
Haha, looks like big ladies with skirts from the side!  :lol: But i wont believe it till i tried it or heard it acoustically (and i doubt even then), looks kinda cool though.  Wouldnt mind trying em!
Title: Re: JET FRETZ
Post by: Philly Q on February 05, 2009, 09:00:37 PM
Interesting, but I don't like the look much.

They might look pretty cool on a John Birch type guitar with a really black ebony board, stainless binding and inlays to match the frets.  That slightly mad-scientist vibe. 
Title: Re: JET FRETZ
Post by: WezV on February 05, 2009, 09:16:39 PM
my first thought is what stops them coming loose.  apparently you can change all your frets in about 5 minutes as they just tap loose... so whats going to happen when a fretboard shrinks due to low humidity or some other common neck change happens, and is that small amout of rosewood above the dovetail coing to survive frequent changes

i am also wondering about the choice of stainless steel for the fret material.  with a normal sized fret going with SS can add brightness.... how bright is this going to be???

but potentially interesting.   I have seen a few people try to devise ways of having interchangable fretboards on a single guitar and have never seen a system i think could work.   If it really does take just 5 minutes to refret your guitar maybe this is it especially if you could have some fretless inserts as well 
Title: Re: JET FRETZ
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on February 05, 2009, 10:09:35 PM
I dont believe the 5 minute refret for a second!
There will be a fair bit of levelling on the sides etc- and stainless is hard work

Mighty Mite are going to make some USA made necks with them in
I may buy one out of curiosity

I can kind of see where the increase in mass and sustain will come into play, but the proof will be in the playing
Title: Re: JET FRETZ
Post by: dave_mc on February 05, 2009, 10:21:32 PM
http://www.myspace.com/jetfretzdemo (http://www.myspace.com/jetfretzdemo)

Looks weird but very interesting!

pretty much... :lol:
Title: Re: JET FRETZ
Post by: Adam.M on February 05, 2009, 10:31:54 PM
I'm listening to that first demo and... isn't it just feedback?

I'm looking at my PRS and imagining having them on it... it makes me feel ill.
Title: Re: JET FRETZ
Post by: Oli on February 05, 2009, 10:50:39 PM
I'm listening to that first demo and... isn't it just feedback?

I'm looking at my PRS and imagining having them on it... it makes me feel ill.

Yea, it's not a very good way of demonstrating it... in the youtube video, he's playing with loads of effects too, so you can't hear what the guitar actually sounds like.

The system is kind of similar to the frets on the chapman stick (but not the removable part)... i don't see the point on the flange, why not just have a regular fret shape above the fretboard, and a triangular part below?

Bit of an odd idea, don't think it's really my kinda thing, i'll stick to normal fret profiles :)
Title: Re: JET FRETZ
Post by: SG Thrasher on February 05, 2009, 10:50:42 PM
I'm listening to that first demo and... isn't it just feedback?

That's what I thought! Don't watch the video, the guy is the biggest w**ker ever and made me oh so very angry.
Title: Re: JET FRETZ
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on February 06, 2009, 12:40:20 AM
I thought Chapman stick when I saw it

The guy is a bit "full on" - he has more clips on youtube

But I am interested to try the neck  for sure

It WON'T catch on but I think it's interesting
Title: Re: JET FRETZ
Post by: MrBump on February 06, 2009, 06:44:12 AM
I like stuff like that.  It's different.

Like most here, I'd want to hear the results properly...
Title: Re: JET FRETZ
Post by: Ratrod on February 06, 2009, 11:16:25 AM
The clips don't convince me. Any guitar will have sustain for hours with that much distortion.

If you want to really increase your tone and sustain, get 3 brass saddles on your Tele or swap your TOM for a bar bridge.
Title: Re: JET FRETZ
Post by: FernandoDuarte on February 06, 2009, 12:09:45 PM
or swap your TOM for a bar bridge.

This one??
(http://www.angela.com/ebaypictures/08feb8/310021378263.jpg)

Direct retrofit to TOM??
Title: Re: JET FRETZ
Post by: jibidy on February 06, 2009, 02:40:17 PM
Load of cr@p.

Why would you just get one of those Exciters. Is it aphex that do them?

Save having huge ugly frets.
Title: Re: JET FRETZ
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on February 06, 2009, 04:07:58 PM
I dont think the guy marketing them is doing a very good job
There is something to be said for the frets and I am interested to check out the potential positives

Demoing them with such a shedload of gain and FX fails to get across what is going on - maybe the guy is even more stuck in a 1980s big hair timewarp than me (if such a thing were possible)

The old bar fretwire that Martin used  in the old days certainly had people saying it was good for tone , and the Chapman stick has huge wire buried into the fingerboard and seems to have a unique sustain that allows notes to be just tapped out

So I wont write it off even though I am sure it wont catch on in a big way

I am concerned about the serviceability of the neck from a tech's point of view as well, but more keen to see what positives it offers
Title: Re: JET FRETZ
Post by: MrBump on February 06, 2009, 05:57:14 PM
... interesting stuff.

My brother in law has a theory that the neck of a guitar has far more to do with the tonal properties than the body...

I'll bet people will have an opinion on THAT one!
Title: Re: JET FRETZ
Post by: Philly Q on February 06, 2009, 08:55:51 PM
Demoing them with such a shedload of gain and FX fails to get across what is going on - maybe the guy is even more stuck in a 1980s big hair timewarp than me (if such a thing were possible)

At least you've got the big hair!  :lol:

He does come across as a complete tool.  It may be a good product, but his marketing approach is going to alienate a lot of people straight away.

Title: Re: JET FRETZ
Post by: Ratrod on February 07, 2009, 11:21:28 AM
or swap your TOM for a bar bridge.

This one??
(http://www.angela.com/ebaypictures/08feb8/310021378263.jpg)

Direct retrofit to TOM??

Yes but not quite. I know a guy who makes bar bridges that follow the radius of your fretboard. Also as a direct replacement for TOM's,  including a slimmer one for LP's and SG's. You can also choose between brass, stainless and aluminium. Custom string spacing is also available.

here's a link: http://gretschpages.com/forum/other-equipment/introducing-tru-arc-bridges/12746/page1/ (http://gretschpages.com/forum/other-equipment/introducing-tru-arc-bridges/12746/page1/)

(http://www.proteuspages.com/TruArc/TAImages/ST95-2.jpg)
Title: Re: JET FRETZ
Post by: FernandoDuarte on February 07, 2009, 12:20:15 PM
Very interesting.... How does it sounds, tune-wise?
Title: Re: JET FRETZ
Post by: Ratrod on February 08, 2009, 12:07:24 PM
Intonation will never be as perfect as a TOM. With a floating bridge you can get good enough intonation. With a fixed bridge you'll probably need 11's to get close to perfect intonation.

It's a compromise between tone/sustain and intonation. Players from the old days didn't have much problems with non-adjustable bridges. Same goes for acoustic players.
Title: Re: JET FRETZ
Post by: FernandoDuarte on February 08, 2009, 04:10:42 PM
No problem, I'm already on 11's :D Thinking slowly in going to 12's