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Title: Agressive? Hello?
Post by: hunter on February 23, 2009, 09:58:34 AM

I mean is it my non-native English or is it possible that this job ad for a European Gibson Executive has a very strange appeal?

I would more be expecting something along the lines of "inspirational leader" for such a position. But if the President is supposed to be "aggressive", well then this sounds like a fun brand  :?

http://www.gibson.com/en-us/Support/Jobs/Executive/President-Gibson-Europe/
 
Title: Re: Agressive? Hello?
Post by: gwEm on February 23, 2009, 10:30:47 AM
its essentially a sales focused role i imagine - i don' think much gibson R&D is done outside the US, and definitely not in Europe. So aggressive fits, knowing what sort of company Gibson is.
Title: Re: Agressive? Hello?
Post by: Philly Q on February 23, 2009, 02:55:28 PM
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This is a high energy shirt-sleeve position in a performance driven flat structured entrepreneurial culture. Only those applicants that are proven entrepreneurs driven to succeed, and who measure their accomplishments with mandatory daily win/lose performance metrics will be successful in this role and need apply.

What a load of bollocks.

I hate all that corporate jargon bullsh!t.  :x
Title: Re: Agressive? Hello?
Post by: ChunkyMunky on February 23, 2009, 03:03:35 PM
That's Gibson for you.  PDT_029
Title: Re: Agressive? Hello?
Post by: AndyR on February 23, 2009, 03:27:57 PM
And even taking the jargon out, it has a few grammar issues as well :lol:
Title: Re: Agressive? Hello?
Post by: Ian Price on February 23, 2009, 03:37:08 PM
'the world’s leading musical instrument manufacturer and Lifestyle Company'

I think I would argue that statement. Surely it's not 100% accurate!

Just another thought. How about we all apply? Having a BKPer in a high level job at Gibson would be great. I was thinking of saying something along the lines of:

"Whilst I don't have an MBA or a 10 year proven track record I have proved to be a reliable member of the BKP forum. References of my ability to start thought provoking, and sometimes amusing, posts can be gained by joining up as a forum member and asking my fellow BKPers what they think of me. I am sure you will find the answers helpful in your decision making process"

I think I can pull this off. Wish me luck.
Title: Re: Agressive? Hello?
Post by: hunter on February 23, 2009, 04:11:17 PM

maybe I should get that DGT and not a flame burst '59 after all ...
Title: Re: Agressive? Hello?
Post by: dave_mc on February 23, 2009, 04:22:28 PM


I hate all that corporate jargon bullsh!t.  :x

better :lol:
Title: Re: Agressive? Hello?
Post by: dave_mc on February 23, 2009, 04:23:55 PM
And even taking the jargon out, it has a few grammar issues as well :lol:

+1, i love how all these supposedly high-powered jobs for offer are littered with dodgy grammar etc.

also i noticed this, towards the end.

"Experience in playing guitar or other musical instruments is a plus. "

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Agressive? Hello?
Post by: Johnny Mac on February 23, 2009, 05:36:18 PM
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This is a high energy shirt-sleeve position in a performance driven flat structured entrepreneurial culture. Only those applicants that are proven entrepreneurs driven to succeed, and who measure their accomplishments with mandatory daily win/lose performance metrics will be successful in this role and need apply.

What a load of bollocks.

I hate all that corporate jargon bullsh!t.  :x

+ 1 insufferable pricks people like that. I hate them.
Title: Re: Agressive? Hello?
Post by: Johnny Mac on February 23, 2009, 05:39:15 PM
'the world’s leading musical instrument manufacturer and Lifestyle Company'

I think I would argue that statement. Surely it's not 100% accurate!

Just another thought. How about we all apply? Having a BKPer in a high level job at Gibson would be great. I was thinking of saying something along the lines of:

"Whilst I don't have an MBA or a 10 year proven track record I have proved to be a reliable member of the BKP forum. References of my ability to start thought provoking, and sometimes amusing, posts can be gained by joining up as a forum member and asking my fellow BKPers what they think of me. I am sure you will find the answers helpful in your decision making process"

I think I can pull this off. Wish me luck.

Feel free to quote the use of my Koch in your CV!
Title: Re: Agressive? Hello?
Post by: nfe on February 23, 2009, 09:14:22 PM
What amuses me more, is that, unless he's left in the last 8 months, the head of Gibson UK is pretty much the polar opposite of an aggressive, jargon chanting, target-obsessed, go-getter  :lol:

He's a boy from Fife who likes the pub and banter with musos in old fashioned shops  :lol:
Title: Re: Agressive? Hello?
Post by: Afghan Dave on February 23, 2009, 09:33:41 PM
Bad grammar... Corporate jargon bullsh1t... over inflated self importance.

A completely soulless lack of self awareness....

This is why I cry when I have to consider returning to work for a company such as this. PDT_049 PDT_050 PDT_038 PDT_013
Title: Re: Agressive? Hello?
Post by: dave_mc on February 23, 2009, 11:07:53 PM
hang on a minute, couldn't we get roo in? he hates teles, in a vaguely aggressive way, so he's halfway there already, presumably...
Title: Re: Agressive? Hello?
Post by: Ian Price on February 23, 2009, 11:16:01 PM
That's an interview I would love to see. Just base your answers around hatred for a big competitor.
Title: Re: Agressive? Hello?
Post by: Johnny Mac on February 24, 2009, 08:39:25 AM
That's an interview I would love to see. Just base your answers around hatred for a big competitor.

Yeah I see what you mean. Shall I get my fur coat and my steel toecapped Cat Site boots on, kick the door in, bellowing

'Shut It You Slag!" "See Fender? They're C***s! Now Gis me facking company motaaa and another 40 grand on top of that pin money pittance you mugs were banging on abhat in me bleedin' earole on the dog and get outa my facking office!!!!

 :D
Title: Re: Agressive? Hello?
Post by: hunter on February 24, 2009, 10:23:01 PM
That's an interview I would love to see. Just base your answers around hatred for a big competitor.

Yeah I see what you mean. Shall I get my fur coat and my steel toecapped Cat Site boots on, kick the door in, bellowing

'Shut It You Slag!" "See Fender? They're C***s! Now Gis me facking company motaaa and another 40 grand on top of that pin money pittance you mugs were banging on abhat in me bleedin' earole on the dog and get outa my facking office!!!!

 :D

You have the job!!
Title: Re: Agressive? Hello?
Post by: Johnny Mac on February 24, 2009, 10:28:26 PM
That's an interview I would love to see. Just base your answers around hatred for a big competitor.

Yeah I see what you mean. Shall I get my fur coat and my steel toecapped Cat Site boots on, kick the door in, bellowing

'Shut It You Slag!" "See Fender? They're C***s! Now Gis me facking company motaaa and another 40 grand on top of that pin money pittance you mugs were banging on abhat in me bleedin' earole on the dog and get outa my facking office!!!!

 :D

You have the job!!

Excellent, ok I'll sack all the exsisting staff on my first day and take on the BKP Forum Members. We can sit around all day playing guitars, drinking tea and eating choccy hob nobs!  :D
Title: Re: Agressive? Hello?
Post by: Philly Q on February 24, 2009, 10:30:31 PM
That's an interview I would love to see. Just base your answers around hatred for a big competitor.

Yeah I see what you mean. Shall I get my fur coat and my steel toecapped Cat Site boots on, kick the door in, bellowing

'Shut It You Slag!" "See Fender? They're C***s! Now Gis me facking company motaaa and another 40 grand on top of that pin money pittance you mugs were banging on abhat in me bleedin' earole on the dog and get outa my facking office!!!!

 :D

You have the job!!

Excellent, ok I'll sack all the exsisting staff on my first day and take on the BKP Forum Members. We can sit around all day playing guitars, drinking tea and eating choccy hob nobs!  :D

Excellent!  :D  Now can I have an ES-339?
Title: Re: Agressive? Hello?
Post by: Simon D on February 24, 2009, 10:35:40 PM
That's an interview I would love to see. Just base your answers around hatred for a big competitor.

Yeah I see what you mean. Shall I get my fur coat and my steel toecapped Cat Site boots on, kick the door in, bellowing

'Shut It You Slag!" "See Fender? They're C***s! Now Gis me facking company motaaa and another 40 grand on top of that pin money pittance you mugs were banging on abhat in me bleedin' earole on the dog and get outa my facking office!!!!

 :D

Hahahahahaha! Johnny, you should definitely get into the corporate world mate, you'd be a welcome breath of fresh air! And for people who talk about "high energy shirt-sleeve position(s) in a performance driven flat structured entrepreneurial culture", Dr Si prescirbes a swift kick in the arse, a healthy dose of common sense and large helping of welcome-to-the-real-$%&#ing-world!
Title: Re: Agressive? Hello?
Post by: WezV on February 24, 2009, 10:38:06 PM
hold on a minute... if we all work for gibson are we still allowed to slag them off!!
Title: Re: Agressive? Hello?
Post by: Johnny Mac on February 24, 2009, 10:41:52 PM
Thanks very much for your support Simon!  :lol: Well if you and Philly would like to take a few guitars of your choice home with you for keeps then you're both most very welcome. Now in the meantime shall we play kick the HR Numpty and send them on menial errands in the rain with no coat?  :lol: Then scream 'full metal jacket drill instructor' style in their ear at point blank range for taking too long making the tea!
Title: Re: Agressive? Hello?
Post by: Johnny Mac on February 24, 2009, 10:46:57 PM
hold on a minute... if we all work for gibson are we still allowed to slag them off!!

Well not in public as we still need to put steam on the table but you now have a free role in the custom workshop to do what you want!  :D
Title: Re: Agressive? Hello?
Post by: hunter on February 24, 2009, 10:54:35 PM
With our forum influence and community power, we could create hype around almost anything ... like imagine a special series SG Custom made of British oak and aged and signature kinda shite sold for 8,000 GBP as limited edition - if Simon Bradley makes clips for Guitarist it will sound cr@p anyways like everything else, but with us hyping them in HCAF and gearpage etc, they will fly off the shelves ?

well maybe ...  :?
Title: Re: Agressive? Hello?
Post by: ChunkyMunky on February 24, 2009, 10:58:14 PM
With our forum influence and community power, we could create hype around almost anything ... like imagine a special series SG Custom made of British oak and aged and signature kinda shitee sold for 8,000 GBP as limited edition - if Simon Bradley makes clips for Guitarist it will sound cr@p anyways like everything else, but with us hyping them in HCAF and gearpage etc, they will fly off the shelves ?

well maybe ...  :?

the scary thing is that you're probably right!
Title: Re: Agressive? Hello?
Post by: Johnny Mac on February 24, 2009, 11:10:21 PM
With our forum influence and community power, we could create hype around almost anything ... like imagine a special series SG Custom made of British oak and aged and signature kinda shiteee sold for 8,000 GBP as limited edition - if Simon Bradley makes clips for Guitarist it will sound cr@p anyways like everything else, but with us hyping them in HCAF and gearpage etc, they will fly off the shelves ?

well maybe ...  :?

the scary thing is that you're probably right!

Agreed!
Title: Re: Agressive? Hello?
Post by: Ratrod on February 25, 2009, 12:10:42 PM
I can understand they need agressive sales people.

I wouldn't buy a reverse V, Holy Explorer, Up Side Down whatever unless someone put a gun to my head.
Title: Re: Agressive? Hello?
Post by: Johnny Mac on February 25, 2009, 01:50:15 PM
I can understand they need agressive sales people.

I wouldn't buy a reverse V, Holy Explorer, Up Side Down whatever unless someone put a gun to my head.

This job is for someone in your country Ratrod! Go for it!  :lol:
Title: Re: Agressive? Hello?
Post by: ailean on February 25, 2009, 09:16:33 PM
I can understand they need agressive sales people.

I wouldn't buy a reverse V, Holy Explorer, Up Side Down whatever unless someone put a gun to my head.

Don't say that in public, Gibson can afford guns.
Title: Re: Agressive? Hello?
Post by: Ratrod on February 27, 2009, 11:26:26 AM
I can understand they need agressive sales people.

I wouldn't buy a reverse V, Holy Explorer, Up Side Down whatever unless someone put a gun to my head.

This job is for someone in your country Ratrod! Go for it!  :lol:

I would be banned from the Gretsch forum if I did.

Guitar shop owners would hate me.

I would have to claim that Gibsons are good and worth every penny.

I would even have to claim Burstbuckers are better than Mules.

I think that job would be better suited for the Antichrist.
Title: Re: Agressive? Hello?
Post by: Johnny Mac on February 27, 2009, 12:31:01 PM
I can understand they need agressive sales people.

I wouldn't buy a reverse V, Holy Explorer, Up Side Down whatever unless someone put a gun to my head.

This job is for someone in your country Ratrod! Go for it!  :lol:

I would be banned from the Gretsch forum if I did.

Guitar shop owners would hate me.

I would have to claim that Gibsons are good and worth every penny.

I would even have to claim Burstbuckers are better than Mules.

I think that job would be better suited for the Antichrist.

 :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Agressive? Hello?
Post by: Ratrod on February 28, 2009, 11:55:44 AM
And before anyone applies for this job, read this:

http://www.gearwire.com/gibson-lowestrankedemployer.html (http://www.gearwire.com/gibson-lowestrankedemployer.html)
Title: Re: Agressive? Hello?
Post by: ChunkyMunky on February 28, 2009, 12:12:02 PM
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"The CEO is crazy. Certifiably crazy. He is a narcissist and has delusions of grandeur . . . [he] creates impossible scenarios for his employees to follow, and thinks nothing of belittling them in emails which he'll copy to a huge list of people just to make sure they are properly dressed down . . . He loves firing people around the holidays . . ."

Shouldn't he be fired :P
Title: Re: Agressive? Hello?
Post by: hunter on February 28, 2009, 01:20:31 PM
And before anyone applies for this job, read this:

http://www.gearwire.com/gibson-lowestrankedemployer.html (http://www.gearwire.com/gibson-lowestrankedemployer.html)


Amazing. How much worse can it get?
Title: Re: Agressive? Hello?
Post by: Johnny Mac on February 28, 2009, 01:57:30 PM
Holy cow!

This calls for a superhero to put things straight!
Title: Re: Agressive? Hello?
Post by: Ratrod on March 01, 2009, 12:50:23 PM
Makes you feel a bit less guilty about buying Chinese guitars, doesn't it?

The guys who made my Squier CV Tele probably have it better than theguys making Gibsons. Plus the guys that made my CV Tele have a product to be proud of as well.
Title: Re: Agressive? Hello?
Post by: dave_mc on March 01, 2009, 08:08:48 PM
wow :lol: