Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: sebby123 on February 25, 2009, 05:42:26 AM
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Your all going to hate me im in the ordering sheet and i go to click ona cold sweat set and i cant... Im so intreasted in a rebel yell since there made for his les paul im curouis it could be alot better for mine...i just played my frends tele with a humbucker which is a vintage p-up which i fell in love with so im thinking maybe the rebel yell might be a better fit for me ah i cant decided any suggestions on my debate as soon as i got some replies ill order this time promise ha!
$%&# my life! ha
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Well...don't $%&# your life, but enjoy it.
Rebel Yells have lots of chime, brightness and clarity. The middle position is out of this
world.
Listen to the Steve Stevens clips...that's what they're gonna sound like (in a Les Paul).
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I definitely won't hate you for choosing any BKP over any other. I might, on the other hand, hate you for your total lack of punctuation. We won't even talk about that other topic...
:)
Roo
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Ha I usually do …. just was lazy this time, will be more punctual next time :)
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The Cold Sweats were designed for Les Pauls too ;)
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cold sweat + les paul = MASSIVE CRUNCH HEAVEN
my guitar on the avatar had at least 9 bridge pickups (including some other BKPs) and never sounded so good as it does now
:D :D :D :D :D :D
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If you need a 'demo' so to speak, check the song I believe it was based off.
'Thin Lizzy - Cold Sweat'
For the Rebel yell, Steve recorded a demo especially for showing it off. Should in the library of clips that Jonny kindly arranged for us.
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Well my main debate is the fact that the rebel yell is alnico V? and the cold sweat is ceramic i need a good clean (and dirt of course) with a smooth clear fat rhythm/ lead tone sweet highs very balanced punchy mids and very tight bass
Since my Les Paul is dark and thick sounding and I’m playing with a mark IV which is very thick and dark sounding as well I think the brightness of the Rebel Yell will be good for my set up also use 11-52 in Db Ab Db Gb Bb Eb So clarity is needed with a good clean.
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If you've not owned a ceramic BKP before I wouldn't go pre-judging their nature. The Cold Sweat is amazing clean and dirty and I still think it's the right choice for you to start with.
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Well my main debate is the fact that the rebel yell is alnico V? and the cold sweat is ceramic i need a good clean (and dirt of course) with a smooth clear fat rhythm/ lead tone sweet highs very balanced punchy mids and very tight bass
Since my Les Paul is dark and thick sounding and I’m playing with a mark IV which is very thick and dark sounding as well I think the brightness of the Rebel Yell will be good for my set up also use 11-52 in Db Ab Db Gb Bb Eb So clarity is needed with a good clean.
the cold sweat is very bright and thick sounding and can do great cleans too
and its voicing is way more balanced than the rebel yell, imo
the rebel yell is an upper midrange monster
and from my experience, ceramic pups cut way better with Mesas than alnico pups
never played a mark, but I had a Recto and recorded and played a Triaxis (which is a Mark type preamp) a few times
if you're into any eras hard rock, classic or modern metal, the cold sweat will do a better job
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Sounds good yea the upper mid boost would be a bad thing the mark series amps are mid beasts
Once again i settle with cold sweats nolly instead of buying a g system i got a custom port city 4x12 made for me :) ha.
www.portcityamps.com
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Sounds good yea the upper mid boost would be a bad thing the mark series amps are mid beasts
not really
I love mids!
I always use a middy booster before the amp with any pickup
but in this case I still think the Sweat will cut way better
unless you want a more aerial, smooth and more friendly tone instead of a punchy and very crunchy authoritarian cutting tone
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Smooth and more friendly that stays clear it my ideal
And the only experience with ceramic p-up's i have i hated they were gibson explorer p-ups horrrible.
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Sounds good yea the upper mid boost would be a bad thing the mark series amps are mid beasts
...thats what the mid dial and 5 band eq is for!!!the ry's sound sooooperkiller in my Marks(trust me..I own a few...)
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the cold sweat is extremely clear
but it has a stiffer and more aggressive response
I don't think you would dislike it, but since you prefer smoothness, then get the rebel yell :D
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great description by eric....that nails it IMO
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Rebel it is!
I know about the mids on the mark series amps i take it down in the eq not alot though! dont want to be drowned out of the mix but want to keep it smooth.
Can i have one of you IIc+'s :P
so many!
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well, I have a mk V ordered, so.....
...I have my "master" mid dial set at 4....my middle slider is slightly above 0...so I am not "scooping"...its where the reb sounds best(however, If I want to chuggachugga, down goes the slider and presto!!)...and remember, tubes change everything to a degree-you willdef. be able to "tune" those rebs in-cool thing about a Mark-lots of flexibility-I also playa few single coil guitars,totally different tones,and I can turn a knob or two and 8)-I had these pups with a mk IV as well-they seem to love simulclass....sooo much harmonic goodness
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My tonal heaven is running mid gain triod and simul-class
And my eq is similar to you im running winged =C= 6L6's and i love it best tubes ive ever bought a little pricey but worth it. whenever i switch guitars i just mess wit hthe eq slider not the knobs.
Love that amp. Let me know how you like the Mark V from what i heard in the Clips it doesnt have that mark Mojo.
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...cool...I am buying the mk v primarily to compare with the others-I am looking for a good workhorse gig amp so the II's dont have to go out into the "night"..talked to Mike Bendenelli at Boog about the 5-convinced it has a mojo all its own/I don't expect it to be a C+ clone,because we know what occurs between the lead drive and channel 1 volume,etc..creates that mojo,but it will be sort of a Mk IV with an improved channel II(to some) with the LOnestar vibe as well(which has me stoked...a Lonestar is seeeweeeet..my bud has one and it rivals the C+ cleans-)....we will have a difinitive shootout with IIC+'s, IIB+, Coli C+, III, Lonestar,and a mesa amp switcher all thru the same speaker cabs and tally the results!!(i like those winged c's as well...)
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Envy Envy Envy Let me know how it goes! if its a similar sound to the iv im down to slam down 2k for one! im just scared because knowing mesa with there newer products stilleto lone star and roadking they all had series 1 versions which everyone hated and then series 2 which we a hell of alot better, Ill just wait for review before i make the plunge...