Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Scotty477 on February 28, 2009, 04:11:18 PM
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Some of you might remember me dithering over the question of fitting BKP's to my Yamaha SG2000, so I thought I'd put up a clip of SG2000 (with stock pickups) tone for evaluation/crit purposes.
The playing is incidental, just a single take with no overdubs.
Recording is via a Boss GT-6 (high gain Marshall model) into a Boss BR-900CD digi recorder.
I'm playing the lead only. The backing track was found on the net, with no author name.
The bridge pup is used throughout, except for the breakdown which is the neck pup at quarter volume.
Clip:
http://www.box.net/shared/aed35o4nr8 (http://www.box.net/shared/aed35o4nr8)
Guitar:
(http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee245/Cobra_999/GuitarsandLaurasparty2008149.jpg)
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Nice guitar .... sounds good as it is to me. What year is the SG? Does it have the Spinex pick ups in?
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You've just spoilt my weekend posting that guitar.
I thought I had my lust for an SG2000 (or 1000, or 3000) but no, you've just brought it back.
Thanks. Thanks a bunch.
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Beautiful guitar - great sound - why change it?
I too have lusted after an SG ... the originals are selling for real money now though.
But ... please don't lean the guitar's neck against the sharp table edge ... you might mark the neck and it'll really bug you when your hands are flying around the frets :wink:
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Thats great tone. The BK's will have to go some to top it. Now I want a SG.Will the GAS never end?
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The guitar sounds great, but maybe it would sound even better with BKPs...
However, if I had an SG2000, I'd keep the stock pickups - they look so unique they're part of the appeal of the guitar, for me.
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Nice guitar .... sounds good as it is to me. What year is the SG? Does it have the Spinex pick ups in?
It's a 1979 SG. The pickups aren't spinex - as far as I'm aware. Yamaha refers to them as simply 'Yamaha Alnico V' pickups.
The guitar sounds great, but maybe it would sound even better with BKPs...
However, if I had an SG2000, I'd keep the stock pickups - they look so unique they're part of the appeal of the guitar, for me.
That's my dilemma. I know how good BKP's are, from having them in my LP, but I'm starting to get some good tones out of the stock Yammy pups - and as you say, the pickups have a unique look to them.
Changing them from semi covered will change the look of the guitar altogether.
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You've just spoilt my weekend posting that guitar.
I thought I had my lust for an SG2000 (or 1000, or 3000) but no, you've just brought it back.
Thanks. Thanks a bunch.
Oops
Sorry Mr B :D
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That sounds amazing, and you have relight my desire for a filthy big sg. thanks.
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Nice guitar .... sounds good as it is to me. What year is the SG? Does it have the Spinex pick ups in?
It's a 1979 SG. The pickups aren't spinex - as far as I'm aware. Yamaha refers to them as simply 'Yamaha Alnico V' pickups.
The Spinex pups are Alnico V's... I'm just not sure when they were produced. No matter anyway... it sounds great, personally I would leave well alone with that one... superb guitar!
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Decision made.
I've listened to this clip a lot over the weekend and I've decided to keep the stock pickups. I like the tone and they certainly don't ever get lost in the mix.
Looks like I need to buy another guitar to put BKP's into now :)
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Decision made.
I've listened to this clip a lot over the weekend and I've decided to keep the stock pickups. I like the tone and they certainly don't ever get lost in the mix.
Looks like I need to buy another guitar to put BKP's into now :)
Based on that clip,you're doing right,i think.If your guitar is only going through a Boss GT6,it can be misleading though.When i was using a Boss GT5,i was able to get some very convincing lead tones (with a Marshall MSF),the best results coming from EMG Pu's in a Squier Strat,but it was very limited to that role and the tone's PU were not that important either.Anyway,congrats for the clip 8)!It does sound really good!And nice playing too!
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I can say that they DO sound great through a decent valve amp... you AREdoing the right thing IMO.
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Decision made.
I've listened to this clip a lot over the weekend and I've decided to keep the stock pickups. I like the tone and they certainly don't ever get lost in the mix.
Looks like I need to buy another guitar to put BKP's into now :)
Good decision. But a cheaper SG (like I did with my SG200) and BKP it. I put Mules in mine, and it's superb.
Mark.
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Sounds great, I wouldn't change a thing!
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It just sounds fantastic! :D leave it as it is. The SG2000 is a classic. The lead guitar in my band has one; we fitted some BKP Abraxas pups in there, still sounded great but in the end went back to the originals (sorry Tim). Yamaha really had it right with this guitar; even the pots look like they where turned up out of solid metal; keep it as original as you can.
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Thanks for that people :)
The SG2000 sounds great through my Peavey Classic 50 212 as well. It's not a high end amp but it does give an honest tone.
My next target is a Yamaha semi acoustic, which I think may well get a set of Stormy Monday's - unless the stock pups are of very high calibre.
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My next target is a Yamaha semi acoustic, which I think may well get a set of Stormy Monday's - unless the stock pups are of very high calibre.
SA2000 or similar? I don't think anyone makes 335-types as beautiful as those. Well, except maybe the Ibanez John Scofield model.
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An SA2000 would be lovely :D
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Apparently they're pretty hard to come by, because people who buy them keep them!
A new SA2200 isn't too shockingly expensive, but they're too big for me. If they made a scaled-down version like the ES-339 I'd buy one in a heartbeat.
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I'm in no rush to get 1, but if an SA2000 came along I would seriously consider it.
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My next target is a Yamaha semi acoustic, which I think may well get a set of Stormy Monday's - unless the stock pups are of very high calibre.
SA2000 or similar? I don't think anyone makes 335-types as beautiful as those. Well, except maybe the Ibanez John Scofield model.
I don't know about playability but in terms of fit and finish the Yamaha is far superior to the Ibanez. I agree both are nice though.
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My next target is a Yamaha semi acoustic, which I think may well get a set of Stormy Monday's - unless the stock pups are of very high calibre.
SA2000 or similar? I don't think anyone makes 335-types as beautiful as those. Well, except maybe the Ibanez John Scofield model.
I don't know about playability but in terms of fit and finish the Yamaha is far superior to the Ibanez. I agree both are nice though.
Really? That's interesting. I've never played either, but the Ibanez is a fair bit more expensive (in the UK, at least).
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I've found that Yamaha's in general tend to command less of a price overall.
It's a double edged sword really. You can get a very good guitar for a low price but they don't make much if you're trying to sell one.
Take my SG2000 as a good example. I paid £750 for it, from a small music shop. That was probably too high but I just wanted it and couldn't be bothered to get involved in haggling as I knew the owner was struggling slightly with lack of sales, and I like him. He's been good to me over the years.
That guitar is easily better than anything I've ever played, in terms of playability, 'feel' and certainly build quality. I include my own Gibson LP and Fender Strat Plus in that estimation.
I can't think of anything that I could afford that would be better than it, but if I were to go and sell it I would very likely get far less than the £750 I paid for it.
It's real value to me lies in actually owning it and using it.
That's the secret of Yamaha's IMHO. They are relatively inexpensive to buy because they tend to get overlooked, simply because they are made by Yamaha.
Suits me :D
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I couldn't agree more, I have IMO some great guitars. 2 really good (by Gibsons standards) L.Ps which I love and they suit me fine, BUT my SG beats them hands down for build quality! I won't say sound and playability 'coz all my guitars play really well and sound good, but if you like a VERY low action it's awesome, as good as my handmade Wayne! I'm going to look for an SG2000 later this year... so IF ever you let that one go please let me know. Cheers.
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^ That. Great sound, man.