Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: _tom_ on February 28, 2009, 06:39:11 PM
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So I have the opportunity to buy the head version for £200 off a forumite over on HC, should I go for it? I've been tempted many times before and I'm thinking about giving into the gas and going for it :P I know a few people on here have one so hopefully someone can answer my question.
Can it do good mid-gain plexi style tones like ACDC kinda thing or is it too modern-voiced for that? Also, bassman-esque tones (social distortion kinda thing) would be nice too. I also love tones like this - http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=3870535&albid=7751921&songid=30412402
The GH cant really do that from my experience. I use a 2x12 with G12H30 speakers. If I get a job over summer again I'll probably get another 1x12 to have it as a uni/low volume practice rig.
I'm just worried it'll sound too similar to my Laney GH, is that the case? Also does it need to be properly cranked to get the best sound or does it open up fairly early?
One last query - the thing I hate most about my Laney is that its really stiff feeling to play (esp. with low gain) and can get fizzy. Will I still get this with the HT5?
Cheers :)
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Can't speak for the HT5, but I recently got a Tiny Terror and it sounds awesome. I can't believe I waited so long before trying one.
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I thought I remember 'LazyNinja' getting one, perhaps a P.M. ?
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Every happy shopper who bought one that I know of, it broke.
But positivity here! It sounds alright. When it works.
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Oh.. I thought there were just problems with an early batch, and that they'd fix them for free or something?
Blackstar are actually from where I am (Northamptonshire) so its not gonna be a long way away if anything needs fixing I guess?
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Oh.. I thought there were just problems with an early batch, and that they'd fix them for free or something?
Blackstar are actually from where I am (Northamptonshire) so its not gonna be a long way away if anything needs fixing I guess?
Ah yes, that is true. The first batch were messed up. I don't know about the rest after that though but you'll hardly waste any time if it does go to capoot.
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Played one today, it was OK :)
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^ damned with faint praise? :lol:
i haven't tried it yet... i didn't really like the artisan 15 i tried, though- but it's a completely different style of amp.
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Bit harsh wasn't I - sorry :oops:
The gain channel sounded OK but lacked some sparkle and transparency. The clean channel was a bit flat.
All IMO of course. Matt77 likes it, it was his I played!
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Lead tone can sound good. Clean tone is cheap sounding.
Buy it at £200, if you don't like it, you won't lose a lot of sleep or money.
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Twinfan would that just be because you're used to the Martamps maybe? I was thinking I probably wont lose any money if I dont like it as they're in high demand right now it seems. I have heard some awesome clips of it so I guess I should give it a go anyway. I just never get to play my Laney at the volumes it likes best so it just seems really pointless at the minute, getting me gas'ing :P
I'm not too bothered about the cleans, I never use em :P
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I've been stood on the sidelines waiting to hear some more about these for ages...
Please can you not compare them to a handbuilt Martamp or the like.. it's hardly fair is it?
They just seem to attract apathy but they seem to be a bloody wonderful idea for those of us who live in stacked urban boxes surrounded by asshole neighbors.
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They are still loud but I can't think there would be much better out there for home use at a similar price. Especially if you already have a cab
Better still you can buy one and hide it in the corner where the girlfriend won't notice you've just spent a cheeky 250
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Please can you not compare them to a handbuilt Martamp or the like.. it's hardly fair is it?
No. :)
They're ok for the money.
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Better still you can buy one and hide it in the corner where the girlfriend won't notice you've just spent a cheeky 250
Who would do something like that eh Matt? ;) :lol:
Comparing them to other things on the market is only natural Dave. If like Matt or Tom you're after a cheap practice or home recording option they're pretty good. If you're looking for the 'Holy Grail' they won't be it :)
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Comparing them to other things on the market is only natural Dave. If like Matt or Tom you're after a cheap practice or home recording option they're pretty good. If you're looking for the 'Holy Grail' they won't be it :)
Yeah I'm not expecting miracles but it'd be nice to have an amp that can sound better than my Laney for at home. I'd still use that for gigging or playing in a band. Speaking of which, I know some musicians from uni who live near me back home so hopefully I can get something good going over easter/summer :)
edit - is this an accurate demo of how it sounds? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsO1-1TCchA
Sounds great to me. As soon as the guy pm's me back I'll just go for it :P
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Tom,
I'd just had a listen to a few clips on Youtube and that clip you posted seems to represent how that sound in general.
Quite impressed by them, course most of the clips are metallers playing, so I'm not sure how the more vintagey tones fare.
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Just got a reply from some guys on HC who own em, apparently with the gain set low you can get decent lower gain marshally tones but just a bit darker. The user reviews on harmony central seem to back that up as well.
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I bought the combo version of the HT5 and think it's great, I've had no problems with it and for the money I think it's the best sounding amp you can buy. Sure it's not the same as a Cornford, Orange Tiny Terror, Laney Lionheart, Peavey Mini Colossal etc but it's class AB not class A like most other 5W amps (so a bit more power), Also it's way better than the 5W Epiphones, Fenders, Gibsons and Harley Bentons out there.
Does it sound exactly like a Plexi or Bassman? I don't think so, not perfectly, I'd say it's more JCM800 than Plexi but if you think of it as having a nice useable sound that can lean towards a more marshally sound or more fendery sound. It does a fair approximation, IMO the Marshally sounds are closer than the Fendery sounds though.
As for cleans, I'd say they're useable but there's not a lot of headroom. I'm not really bothered by this as I like a little breakup in my cleans (sounds, not underwear 8) ).
It really does sound great for the price and beats my old Valvestate hands down for practice/bedroom playing. If I had one complaint I'd say it's a little more bassy than I'd expected but it can be controlled with the EQ.
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Wow, to be fair at that price as long as it's reliable I don't see how you can go wrong! I think it sounds pretty darn good if it's a heavy sound you're after. I'd give it a go. :)
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Comparing them to other things on the market is only natural Dave. If like Matt or Tom you're after a cheap practice or home recording option they're pretty good. If you're looking for the 'Holy Grail' they won't be it :)
Yeah I'm not expecting miracles but it'd be nice to have an amp that can sound better than my Laney for at home. I'd still use that for gigging or playing in a band. Speaking of which, I know some musicians from uni who live near me back home so hopefully I can get something good going over easter/summer :)
edit - is this an accurate demo of how it sounds? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsO1-1TCchA
Sounds great to me. As soon as the guy pm's me back I'll just go for it :P
Yes
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Nice :) Sounds like a snarlier Laney. In other words, just what I want.
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Bit harsh wasn't I - sorry :oops:
The gain channel sounded OK but lacked some sparkle and transparency. The clean channel was a bit flat.
All IMO of course. Matt77 likes it, it was his I played!
i don't mind if you're harsh, i'd rather you'd be truthful :)
also too many daves here, when you were talking to afghan dave, i thought you were talking to me... :lol:
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Well its just been paid for, but I wont be able to get home and play it til next weekend (a week on sunday) :( The suspense will be killing me by then :lol: I could go back next Wednesday but I might be going back the following sunday for a jam with some old school friends so I might as well wait until then.
Hope I like it. If not I guess I can make most if not all of the money back as they're in pretty high demand right now arent they?
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my mate got one. he didnt like it. he's waiting to sell it.
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oh :\ what didnt he like about it?
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he just didnt like the sound. i think he got it and thought it would be an awesome little amp, probably got talked into buying it from wherever. he said it just doesnt cut it. that it doesnt sound as good as he had hoped. doesnt have the drive or the feel that he was after. he doesnt want to take it back for credit so he's waiting on some price changes or something then he's gonna think about selling it.
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Ah fair enough. I've kinda talked myself into it really :lol: I dont think its going to be the be-all-end-all or whatever but I'm hoping it'll be more usable at reasonable volumes than my Laney is.
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yeah. i think maybe my man was looking for something portable to gig with. i dunno. he was into the idea and thought it would be a good little buy at the price. ive never tried one myself. if was going to get one id go play and be sure i like it, rather than play it a bit, get excited, buy it, then get bummed out.
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Make sure you warm it up a bit longer than your other amps when you put it on standby.
I'm not sure how true it is, but the guys in Sounds Great said that they take a bit more warming up. Something to do with having push-pull AB something or other using just one valve. (means nothing to me)
Hope you like it
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Cool.... hope it all works out for you, still don't think you can go wrong for that sort of cash! :)
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Make sure you warm it up a bit longer than your other amps when you put it on standby.
I'm not sure how true it is, but the guys in Sounds Great said that they take a bit more warming up. Something to do with having push-pull AB something or other using just one valve. (means nothing to me)
Hope you like it
sounds odd to me... i would have thought all tubes of the same type are going to warm to the same point, over a varying amount a time. and the heater in the tubes should be desighned to apply a certain amount of current to the heating element and from that you can work out the time taken for the element to heat the tube at the average room temperature.
i wouldnt have thought class a or class a/b operation would relate in any way to how long it takes your tubes to heat up. maybe it does.
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http://profile.ultimate-guitar.com/SG+thrasher/music/ I've got some clips of mine with my Nailbombed SG here, click on "Show track info" for details of OD settings etc.
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Make sure you warm it up a bit longer than your other amps when you put it on standby.
I'm not sure how true it is, but the guys in Sounds Great said that they take a bit more warming up. Something to do with having push-pull AB something or other using just one valve. (means nothing to me)
Hope you like it
sounds odd to me... i would have thought all tubes of the same type are going to warm to the same point, over a varying amount a time. and the heater in the tubes should be desighned to apply a certain amount of current to the heating element and from that you can work out the time taken for the element to heat the tube at the average room temperature.
i wouldnt have thought class a or class a/b operation would relate in any way to how long it takes your tubes to heat up. maybe it does.
There's some sort of built in protection that stops the amp operating if you turn it on too quickly, it only takes a minute or two though and just makes sure the amp is at full operating efficiency before you start trying to melt the paint of your bedroom wall :D
I admit when I first got it I turned it on and thought I'd got a dud for a few seconds.
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ah right! thats kind of clever. still has nothing to do with the class of operation.
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I know nothing about class :D