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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: SRChrono on February 28, 2009, 08:12:45 PM

Title: Can I put Warpigs in a Schecter C-1 Hellraiser?
Post by: SRChrono on February 28, 2009, 08:12:45 PM

I've never changed my pickups and i've looked on Schecter's website for measurments of the pickups but I can't find them. So I was just wondering if anyone here had any helpful advice or experience.

Thanks

Title: Re: Can I put Warpigs in a Schecter C-1 Hellraiser?
Post by: Jonny on February 28, 2009, 08:25:09 PM

Yes. You can.

Title: Re: Can I put Warpigs in a Schecter C-1 Hellraiser?
Post by: Sifu Ben on February 28, 2009, 08:50:59 PM

...but you'll need to change your pots.

Title: Re: Can I put Warpigs in a Schecter C-1 Hellraiser?
Post by: SRChrono on February 28, 2009, 10:38:07 PM

Thanks for the replies but...

I know nothing about pots  :( Can you be more specific or maybe an explanation? They're what you connect to the pickup to control the volume i thought.

Title: Re: Can I put Warpigs in a Schecter C-1 Hellraiser?
Post by: Jonny on February 28, 2009, 10:49:57 PM

Basically your Hellraiser has EMGs in it. When changing to BKPs or basically any of the usual pickups, you have to change your pots too.

I found this, and thought it could be a nice answer:

"The EMG pots are 25k pots. They're an active, low impedance system. While you can use the EMG's with higher value pots, it's not desirable - because the pot becomes more of an on/off switch than a pot: At 0 you have no signal, then at 1 you get 50% output - which means you won't be doing any smooth volume fades with those pots.

Traditionally, 500k pots were used for guitars with humbucking pickups (i.e. Gibson), while 250k were used for singlecoils (Fender). I believe most major manufacturers stick to this principle."

Title: Re: Can I put Warpigs in a Schecter C-1 Hellraiser?
Post by: Will on February 28, 2009, 10:51:56 PM

I think if it came stock with EMG's you may have to get a grounding wire put in place? which is best done by a tech

Title: Re: Can I put Warpigs in a Schecter C-1 Hellraiser?
Post by: SRChrono on February 28, 2009, 10:58:54 PM

Alright, thanks for all the help. I'll look into it more.

Title: Re: Can I put Warpigs in a Schecter C-1 Hellraiser?
Post by: yellowv on February 28, 2009, 11:02:09 PM

Being an all mahogany guitar with a rosewood board the Warpig is going to be extremely dark. I would reccommend  Painkillers.

Title: Re: Can I put Warpigs in a Schecter C-1 Hellraiser?
Post by: Madiac on February 28, 2009, 11:12:16 PM

Quote from: yellowv on February 28, 2009, 11:02:09 PM

Being an all mahogany guitar with a rosewood board the Warpig is going to be extremely dark. I would reccommend  Painkillers.

Not sure about that, just put some 1 meg pots, besides, the Feline Gothic SG, all mahogany rosewood board, alnico warpigs actually has a somewhat bright sound comparing to my other SG with MQ/Pig90, and it has either 300k or 500k pots, so i think the darkness might be a bit exagerated, or is this one just a oneoff, perhaps its the other of my SGs thats REALLY dark? who knows.

Title: Re: Can I put Warpigs in a Schecter C-1 Hellraiser?
Post by: SRChrono on March 01, 2009, 06:34:52 AM

Hmmm I wish there was some way I could try it or figure it out. Now i'm not sure what to do =/

Title: Re: Can I put Warpigs in a Schecter C-1 Hellraiser?
Post by: Johnny Mac on March 01, 2009, 09:37:36 AM

Quote from: SRChrono on March 01, 2009, 06:34:52 AM

Hmmm I wish there was some way I could try it or figure it out. Now i'm not sure what to do =/

Ask Tim

Title: Re: Can I put Warpigs in a Schecter C-1 Hellraiser?
Post by: the_bleeding on March 01, 2009, 06:10:48 PM

i dont find warpigs dark at all. Thick and meaty yes. But not dark.

A second reason you'll have to change pots is that lower value pots suck more treble. Therefore when you play a warpig (designed for 500k-1meg) through 25k pots, it will sound terrible. No sustain, no girth, just mud.

And the 1meg pot is a good idea, i did it to mine. Added a touch of high end.

Title: Re: Can I put Warpigs in a Schecter C-1 Hellraiser?
Post by: SRChrono on March 01, 2009, 06:59:36 PM

Who is Tim?

Thanks

Title: Re: Can I put Warpigs in a Schecter C-1 Hellraiser?
Post by: Alex on March 01, 2009, 09:21:36 PM

He is the celestial ruler of this board. We all worship Him.

Title: Re: Can I put Warpigs in a Schecter C-1 Hellraiser?
Post by: Philly Q on March 01, 2009, 10:55:48 PM

Quote from: Alex on March 01, 2009, 09:21:36 PM

He is the celestial ruler of this board. We all worship Him.

He is that  :lol: .  But he's also the head honcho of BKP, the guy who designed all the pickups, and the guy you'll probably speak to if you phone up.