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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: matteo on March 01, 2009, 07:19:44 PM

Title: getting into recording
Post by: matteo on March 01, 2009, 07:19:44 PM
im completely new to this concept but think it might improve my playing. Any advice for a beginner? the main thing is the system needs to be simple and easy to use. Ive been looking at a Stealthplug USB. has anyone used this before? it seems basic enough? any others i should consider? :?

thanks!
Title: Re: getting into recording
Post by: Spitfire on March 01, 2009, 07:22:18 PM
if you are wanting something simple to go straight into your computer... i say the line 6 toneport gx.. i think thats the one... im sure somoene will correct me if im wrong.
Title: Re: getting into recording
Post by: Jonny on March 01, 2009, 07:49:50 PM
the line 6 toneport products are good.

I have a toneport ux1, just basically for one guitar, the ux2 has two ports, etc. also there's a mic, you can plug directly in or you can mic up to a speaker.
Title: Re: getting into recording
Post by: Twaddlefish on March 01, 2009, 08:24:05 PM
I'd highly recommend the Toneports, the software is fantastic as well, you can recreate pretty much any sound on there.

Software-wise, I personally use FL Studio. Very versatile and relatively user friendly for starters.
Title: Re: getting into recording
Post by: Alex on March 01, 2009, 08:42:29 PM
The Line6 toneports are indeed quite good.

I also had a Tascam for a while, but a little tube preamp for the mic straight into my PC yielded really nice results as well (i should look for that recording actually).

The problem is that you will get some nice results, but eventually will want more.

I was looking at a Focusrite Saphire LE with a SM57 and a Ribbon mic as a setup, but the costs always held me back. Evenutally I finished studying and now I have the money but not the time...
Title: Re: getting into recording
Post by: murraymurray on March 01, 2009, 08:52:55 PM
Yeah toneport GX is the way to go, pretty cheap and very easy to use, 1 guitar input, 1 headphone jack/line out
Not the best thing ever, but great for the price for a simple interface. I got the add on metal pack and now have the problem of too many options for tones im gonna use on demo recordings.
Title: Re: getting into recording
Post by: Twaddlefish on March 01, 2009, 09:14:17 PM
I'd say go for a UX1/2 or higher on the off chance you want to record with a mic at any point. Better paying a few squid more and having the option, imho.
Title: Re: getting into recording
Post by: dheim on March 02, 2009, 04:18:04 PM
i've got a PODxt AND a POD studio UX2 (on two different computers, in two different places... :)), and i've got to say that i'm getting mixed results with direct USB recording... my sound is A LOT better with the PODxt through my soundcard. i've got a nice soundcard, though...
Title: Re: getting into recording
Post by: Scotty477 on March 02, 2009, 04:52:32 PM


I use a Boss BR-900CD digital recorder.


(http://www.feelmusic.fr/upload/2181_gd.jpg)

I like the ease of use and you don't have to have a high end soundcard in your PC to get a decent result.
Title: Re: getting into recording
Post by: matteo on March 02, 2009, 07:47:01 PM
woah thanks for the speedy replies!! the boss br 900 looks a little complicated (and expensive lol!) im going to go for the ux2 i think? can you layer guitars over each other? and it comes with the relevent software right? sorry if its a stupid question lol!! im not too worried about amazing quality but its got to be easy to use.
Title: Re: getting into recording
Post by: matteo on March 02, 2009, 08:02:10 PM
ummmmm it seems the ux2 is now discontinued! looks like i gotta try something else! :(
Title: Re: getting into recording
Post by: Johnny Mac on March 02, 2009, 10:11:32 PM
http://www.emu.com/products/

I use a 1820 interface, which is similar to the ones on here. You can use cubase or Sonar its great fun. It does give you Tourettes syndrome for a while but can easily be remedied with a manual.
Title: Re: getting into recording
Post by: Spitfire on March 03, 2009, 10:03:26 AM
ummmmm it seems the ux2 is now discontinued! looks like i gotta try something else! :(

it isnt..its just called a pod studio ux2 now.. the tone port was the old name

HERE (http://line6.com/products/computerbased/)
Title: Re: getting into recording
Post by: dheim on March 03, 2009, 11:50:29 AM
woah thanks for the speedy replies!! the boss br 900 looks a little complicated (and expensive lol!) im going to go for the ux2 i think? can you layer guitars over each other? and it comes with the relevent software right? sorry if its a stupid question lol!! im not too worried about amazing quality but its got to be easy to use.

it comes with a simple recording software, anyway i use cubase so i'm not sure of how it works... with a proper software you can of course record and mix multiple tracks... the UX2 can be used to record up to 4 instruments at the same time
Title: Re: getting into recording
Post by: shobet on March 03, 2009, 11:56:42 AM
I can't recommend the UX1 or more specifically its drivers for the Mac. I continue to have audio issues with each iteration of the driver release. I've contacted Line6 only to be told it's Apple's problem with the USB hardware.

So I'm stuck with every having to remove and then install the drivers each time I want to use it. Which to be honest is a PITA and the reason it's gathering dust.

I'm more interested in the external recorders like the Boss listed above now.
Title: Re: getting into recording
Post by: phlip on March 03, 2009, 12:25:36 PM
I can't recommend the UX1 or more specifically its drivers for the Mac. I continue to have audio issues with each iteration of the driver release. I've contacted Line6 only to be told it's Apple's problem with the USB hardware.

So I'm stuck with every having to remove and then install the drivers each time I want to use it. Which to be honest is a PITA and the reason it's gathering dust.

I'm more interested in the external recorders like the Boss listed above now.

I'm not sitcking up for Line 6 here but If this is the classic Intel made a bad USB chipset issue then you're stuffed with any USB audio Device not just line-6's Some early Intel based MAC's used the 915g or a variation of, the issues are listed here listed here http://www.digidesign.com/index.cfm?navid=54&itemid=23005
I've got an HP workstation as my recording Machine aand it has this chipset and mis behaves with my X3 over USB and my USB M-Audio. Adding in a USB rider has cured this for me.

Of course if you're not using an Intel Mac then ignore all of  the above  :D :D
Title: Re: getting into recording
Post by: Matt77 on March 03, 2009, 10:19:41 PM
I have a boss 1180 something or other
No matter what I do with the inputs levels it puts digital clipping on any recording of an amp at high volume.
I find it very frustrating.
It's fine at low volume or with digital stuff though
Title: Re: getting into recording
Post by: Twaddlefish on March 03, 2009, 10:27:48 PM
On a software note, immediately destroy the version of Ableton it comes with. It can't deal with important things like MICROPHONE LATENCY so when I sing in time to the playback, Ableton live thinks it needs to go two thirds of a bar later than I want it to.

I use the UX1 has my main soundcard device, and it is beastly good, easy on par with some of the Creative stuff.
Title: Re: getting into recording
Post by: shobet on March 03, 2009, 10:48:23 PM
I can't recommend the UX1 or more specifically its drivers for the Mac. I continue to have audio issues with each iteration of the driver release. I've contacted Line6 only to be told it's Apple's problem with the USB hardware.

So I'm stuck with every having to remove and then install the drivers each time I want to use it. Which to be honest is a PITA and the reason it's gathering dust.

I'm more interested in the external recorders like the Boss listed above now.

I'm not sitcking up for Line 6 here but If this is the classic Intel made a bad USB chipset issue then you're stuffed with any USB audio Device not just line-6's Some early Intel based MAC's used the 915g or a variation of, the issues are listed here listed here http://www.digidesign.com/index.cfm?navid=54&itemid=23005
I've got an HP workstation as my recording Machine aand it has this chipset and mis behaves with my X3 over USB and my USB M-Audio. Adding in a USB rider has cured this for me.

Of course if you're not using an Intel Mac then ignore all of  the above  :D :D

Pissflaps!
Title: Re: getting into recording
Post by: phlip on March 05, 2009, 04:15:01 PM

Pissflaps!

Does this mean you have an early intel MAC or you don't like what I've Said?  :cry:

Seriously though try a USB Riser card if your MAC has PCI slots, it fixed the issues for me on my HP and it's fairly cheap to try.
Title: Re: getting into recording
Post by: shobet on March 05, 2009, 06:18:39 PM
It's a macbook.
Title: Re: getting into recording
Post by: Lew on March 07, 2009, 11:56:37 AM
I'm using an Mbox2 at the mo for home stuff with either Protools or Logic Pro depending on what I'm doing. Sounds alright  8)
Title: Re: getting into recording
Post by: MDV on March 07, 2009, 01:36:10 PM
A good interface is the cornerstone of computer recording. Its the Hub, the Nexus, the ADCs and the DACs, the power and the glory, for ever and ever, barmen.

You can get other devices later, pres and modellers and blah blah, but get a decent interface now and use the lineout of whatever you play guitar into with some impulses (free and easy) while you hunt for monitors (vital), modellers (meh) mics (yay) and better mics (woo hoo!).

Oh, the toneports have nowt on EMU, Presonus, Edirol, maudio Echo, Motu et al.
Title: Re: getting into recording
Post by: matteo on March 07, 2009, 09:32:36 PM
ordered a ux2 today! thanks for the input guys! 8)
Title: Re: getting into recording
Post by: Lew on March 08, 2009, 02:26:22 AM
I was using a Neve 8801 and AKG 414 this week... the results made my home gear seem barely adaquate ;p
Title: Re: getting into recording
Post by: MDV on March 08, 2009, 01:07:08 PM
I was using a Neve 8801 and AKG 414 this week... the results made my home gear seem barely adaquate ;p

Neve will do that to you.
Title: Re: getting into recording
Post by: Jamie on March 13, 2009, 12:07:01 AM
I can't recommend the UX1 or more specifically its drivers for the Mac. I continue to have audio issues with each iteration of the driver release. I've contacted Line6 only to be told it's Apple's problem with the USB hardware.

So I'm stuck with every having to remove and then install the drivers each time I want to use it. Which to be honest is a PITA and the reason it's gathering dust.

Ive got a similar problem only with the x3 live, i have to keep downloading and installing the drivers everytime i turn my computer on.