Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: the prince of shred on March 01, 2009, 09:46:30 PM
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ok so we all know the big brands... but does anyone have a favourite guitar that is a lesser known make?
or fantastic for value?
.... agile? (i know nothing about them but i thought id get the ball rolling myself as ive seen them....)
:D
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Pearl are known for making drums but I have a japanese LP copy made by them which is awesome. It was apparently made in the 70s in the same factory as the good Tokais etc from that era.
Only cost me £250 from twinfan as well and its my favourite guitar now :) Just needed a good setup and pickups. In all it cost under half the price of a Gibson LP Custom and from what I've played of those, is just as good if not better.
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wow i had no idea they made guitars... do they still? n tokais... yh do u know anything about them? ive heard stuff but i want to get the story where did they come from? issues with gibson? n where are they now?? ;)
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Carvin. They are the shite. They're not too well known over here in the UK as they are in the US but if you can get your hands on one they are fantastic. I love my DC135.
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Depends what the range of your knowledge is. I'm sure some people don't know Tokai. And some don't know Caparison, etc.
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my knowledge only extends to the name and people claiming the made (or make?) batter copies than gibson..... (cheaper??) korean manufacture? n ooh yh caparison.... (i only know their name n that arch enemy guitarsist uses them...... any info on them?) n yes ive heard of carvin (they related to jackson in some way??) but they are hard to come by in the uk i think..... :(
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I bought a Hagstrom today, and it's freaking sweet.
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I bought a Hagstrom today, and it's freaking sweet.
NGD thread? I know some party poopers don't like 'em, but....
And pics or it didn't... etc.
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I love my Agiles, and I've got 2 top end Corts which are awesome (OK, the licensed Floyd on the X custom sucked, but it's standard sized and I've got a replacement to put in this week, the neck however is KILLER!).
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'Tanglewood' and 'Vintage' have turned out very well for me ( they are the ones sitting in the cheap seats ) .
I was also looking at the Hagstroms ( let's see a picture of yours please Badgemark ) - and of course the Peerless. :)
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Eastwood?
Their base of operations is 45 minutes from where i live. Fantastic stuff. I have one myself. :)
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Well I just got an Agile and extremely impressed with it. I can't believe it could even be close to as nice as it is for the price. I'm sure I will buy more of em. Also I have one Caparison and another on the way. They are fantastic guitars, unfortunately you can buy like 7 Agiles for the price of one Caparison :)
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my knowledge only extends to the name and people claiming the made (or make?) batter copies than gibson..... (cheaper??) korean manufacture? n ooh yh caparison.... (i only know their name n that arch enemy guitarsist uses them...... any info on them?) n yes ive heard of carvin (they related to jackson in some way??) but they are hard to come by in the uk i think..... :(
No you're thinking of Charvel. Carvin are their own company.
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I hate NGD, but i'll make a post about Hagstroms to keep you GAS hounds happy.
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Does a Wez Venables guitar count?
:)
Roo
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yeah - practically unknown... thats me!! ;)
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I was thinking more of 'lesser' at the time, but yeah, you've got a point :D
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I don't know if Godin qualifies as an "unknown" brand, but I don't come across them very often. I got a LG model and it's the most playable guitar I have tried so far. Well I'm not a guy who have tried guitars by the thousand or even by the hundreds, but it sure feels right in my hands. It's an older LG model with a really flat neck which suits me well. I have tried one of the newer LG models and it didn't feel as playable is my own.
I also have a Reverend Manta Ray and it's quite nice as well. I think Reverend is a good choice if you're looking for a cheap, but good guitar. They cost around 900$. I bought mine for app. 540 Euros.
There's a small company not too far from where I live (nothing's too far away when you live in Denmark) that sell realy cheap guitars (Les Paul, Tele and Strat copies under 350 Euros) and people rate them quite good. I can't wait to try out some of these guitars.
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Tanglewood for acoustic bang for buck. I've got a Tanglewood super jumbo (TS-155 I think).
Got a CSL (rebranded Ibanez from the lawsuit era) and a Fenix which is who apparently used to make squires, but kept the good wood for themselves to make copies. Mines a strat copy with stacked HB's which I'm in the process of stealing from the wifes uncle.
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Roo
I thought that Fender (well, at least the Teles) was a lesser known brand in your book?
:-)
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Roo
I thought that Fender (well, at least the Teles) was a lesser known brand in your book?
:-)
Don't get be wrong, there are some awesome Fenders out there. Telecasters are not amongst them. Beside, they're hardly little known ;)
Roo
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japanese copies for the win- tokai (they're not all japanese-made, though, it's the japanese-made ones you want), edwards, etc. etc.
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btw roo i really like ur axe ;) :D
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Hey c'mon Wez; your definitely not lesser known as far as us guys are concerned :D
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I think some of the small British builders must be becoming even better value with the weakness of the pound even with the their costs going up. A lot of the american guitar companies also seem to be significantly increasing there prices on top of the exchange movement.
Though they are still high end guitars with high end prices the below would still probably come in cheaper than a custom shop Gibson or Fender. I also love that they are not direct copies and have there own ideas.
I know someone on here has one of these but I can not remember who
Vanquish http://www.vanquishguitars.co.uk/main.htm (http://www.vanquishguitars.co.uk/main.htm)
same with the organic
Organic http://www.organicguitars.co.uk/ (http://www.organicguitars.co.uk/)
and even better both come with BKP's as standard you could almost consider that as a £170 saving to start with :lol:
There are plenty of others as well, even before you start thinking of the likes of the more pure custom luthiers of which we are honoured to get help and advice from on here such as Wez, Johnathan and Bob etc which are possibly even better value. Then you not only get every thing you want, you don't have to pay for anything you don't.
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I used to have a DeArmond M77-T. It was the 'Epiphone' of Guild at the time. It was the only cheap alternative to a Gretsch.
Very cool little guitar. Too bad FMIC pulled the plug on them. Guild doesn't even make electrics anymore.
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^^
Yup. And as a man who wants an S100 pretty damned badly, this saddens me.
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anyone got an agile or cort they like? what model? whats good/bad about it?
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Does a Wez Venables guitar count?
Oh yes!
And what about Kawai ... I bet very few people here have heard of them ... unless you've read my various posts and blog !!
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_QYdDO5-bV1Y/SaFfTeAWjZI/AAAAAAAACzE/x5In_I_mTJE/s800/IMG_3100.JPG)
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_QYdDO5-bV1Y/SFI9zuEMLSI/AAAAAAAAAxQ/szMWGlC9LsQ/s800/IMG_1701.JPG)
(and that's just 2 of them ... )
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anyone got an agile or cort they like? what model? whats good/bad about it?
I've got 2 Agiles and 2 Corts, and they're great.
I've got an Agile AL-3100 (Les Paul clone) in green quilt, and I've got a Septor 727 (extended scale 7 string) in black flame. The AL is great. It's mainly mahogany with just a veneer of maple, but it's real figured maple, not fotoflame. The fingerbaord is nice and flat (13.7") and ebony with real MOP inlays. I've got the standard neck which is still nice and slim. It's stupidly comfortable to play. The pickups are OK if you like PAFs. They sound much better through my Peavey Vypyr than they do through my Ashdown.
The Septor is a thing of beauty. 5 piece through neck, carved mahogany body with maple veneer, the most glass like ebony board, string-through-body Tonepros TOM. HUGE cutaways and a uniform profile neck that's slightly fuller than you'd expect make it fast and comfortable with unbeatable fret access.
Problems with Agiles? They need setting up. My AL's bridge and pickup covers were slightly tarnished (although I quite like that). The main problems though are 1) because they're so cheap and so good they're addictive and you can easily get 5, 2) the exchange rate at the minute makes them much more expensive :(
Corts: I've got an X custom and a G290. They're both slightly older versions though.
The X custom is a straight superstrat. Big cutaways, lightly figured bolt on maple neck (current version is a neck through) which is killer. Very slim, very flat, very thin satin finish. Nice wide rosewood fingerboard. SD Invader and Jazz pickups (neither of which I'm overly fond of) (current version has EMGs). The weak point is the Floyd, which was really mild steel with weak springs. Nightmare to tune, and strings kept snapping off at the bridge. However it is standard floyd spacing, so easy to upgrade, and the new ones have OFRs.
The G290 is a boutique strat type. carved top swampash body with quilted maple veneer, bolt on birdseye maple neck (current versions a 5 piece neck through) with rosewood board. Locking Sperzels, Wilkinson Vs50 (current models have a cort 2 point trem) and SD JB and vintage stagger pickups (also available with EMG 89/SA). This is a fantastic guitar. Really comfortable to play, looks really classy, love the Wilkinson. I'm not overly keen on the JB, but it's OK split, and the singlecoils are really sweet. One of the great things about these is you can pick them up used on Ebay for £250!! :o
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thanks Sifu Ben,
like the sound of that septor 272, do they still make them? similar to the interceptor 27 pro?
cort x custom sounds nice too, im not a botique start guy, infact untill recently i didnt even like superstrats r anything.....
yh the exchange rate is abit rubbish atm. but their still cheap :D
what do you thiink of these:
http://www.rondomusic.com/product2226.html
http://www.rondomusic.com/hornetpro6wh.html
http://www.guitars.co.uk/acatalog/Guitars_co_uk_X_11_BCS_185.html
?
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They had a Septor 727 in until last week. There'll be more in a couple of months. The Septor and Interceptor are essentially the same guitar, just ones Floyded.
I think you should get that red interceptor before I get in trouble with the missus for buying it ;)
The X-11 looks OK, but you'll have to change out the pickups, trem and nut.
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yh i am very tempted by that interceptor .... looks fantastic.... would it need new pots at 500k? to house new bkp's in?
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Yeah, cos it'll have 25k pots for the EMGs. People do speak highly of the 707s though.
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do agile make them in small batches then and sell directly through rondo?
(what about the other brands rondo sell, sx and douglas what are they like?)
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Agile is Rondo's brand. Sx are a brand in themselves (OK for what they cost in the US, but not worth the extra cost of importing them), Douglas is the US name for Shine.