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Title: Flying V Metal - Which pickup!?
Post by: Twaddlefish on March 01, 2009, 11:21:27 PM
Yes, another dumb thread like this.

So, the style we play is an Iron Maiden/Black Sabbath/late 70's Judas Priest sound, but we've contemporised the sound so it's modern, closest I can figure is the guitar tone from The James Murphy track on here. Number 10, called Six Shooter. (http://www.magnacarta.net/gtamb/guitarsthatatemybrain.html)
Now, I've done my homework around the site and I have an idea of the set I'm going for, but I'd like your opinions just in case I'm steering in the wrong direction.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Flying V Metal - Which pickup!?
Post by: Roobubba on March 02, 2009, 09:00:59 AM
In a V - mahogany? I'd say something along the lines of Holy Diver (but might be too dark in mahogany?) or Cold Sweat. Should easily be able to reach those tones...

BTW it's number 11, presuming you wrote the correct title and artist.

Roo
Title: Re: Flying V Metal - Which pickup!?
Post by: hunter on March 02, 2009, 10:04:35 AM
Cold Sweat


+1
Title: Re: Flying V Metal - Which pickup!?
Post by: Infliktor on March 02, 2009, 12:16:52 PM
Im guessing the Painkiller
Title: Re: Flying V Metal - Which pickup!?
Post by: Twaddlefish on March 02, 2009, 12:49:14 PM
Painkiller is an out and out no. Too much high end from what I'm after, and don't want another set of ceramics in my V.

I was actually considering the Rebel Yell set, from the various soundclips I've heard from the site. The Cold Sweats are very nice indeed, although the one thing that puts me off them is that I'm not keen on the rhythm guitar tone on the Thin Lizzy song!

The Holy Diver is just lacking a little bit of something for me. Thanks for all the advice, appreciate it! I have a feeling this could probably be merged with the other Cold Sweat vs. Rebel Yell thread, haha!
Title: Re: Flying V Metal - Which pickup!?
Post by: DimeZakk on March 02, 2009, 04:24:33 PM
Why no Nailbomb?
Title: Re: Flying V Metal - Which pickup!?
Post by: Twaddlefish on March 02, 2009, 05:36:51 PM
The Nailbomb isn't exactly tailored for a warm, classic metal sound. Having said that, the MM sounds amazing but too much high end for the sound I'm after right now.

Although, I just found sonicshake's sounds...man that sounds really good and might just swing me on the Cold Sweat.

SS's Rebel Yell clip made me do a sex wee, though. Somebody help me!
Title: Re: Flying V Metal - Which pickup!?
Post by: ericsabbath on March 02, 2009, 06:11:57 PM
the nailbomb seems to be more suitable for that song, but I think it might get dark in a Gibson V/Explorer type
unless yours have a maple top or something
I'd get a Cold Sweat set, unless you want a darker/spongier tone on bridge rhythms

(that Chris Poland song is awesome  :D :D :D)
Title: Re: Flying V Metal - Which pickup!?
Post by: Twaddlefish on March 02, 2009, 06:28:46 PM
Eric; I know...I saw Chris Poland on there and was like "Hell Yeah!"

So, I figure I might as well post something that I've actually done live.

Set up is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVlS3mAMFJs

Carlsbro 100w PSA Head -> Marshall Slash sig 4x12, with H&K Tube Factor overdrive.

Yes, our singer isn't great.
Title: Re: Flying V Metal - Which pickup!?
Post by: ericsabbath on March 02, 2009, 06:54:02 PM
Eric; I know...I saw Chris Poland on there and was like "Hell Yeah!"

So, I figure I might as well post something that I've actually done live.

Set up is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVlS3mAMFJs

Carlsbro 100w PSA Head -> Marshall Slash sig 4x12, with H&K Tube Factor overdrive.

Yes, our singer isn't great.

lol

yeah, I had way worse singers
nice song, though

I can't see why you wouldn't love a Cold Sweat
it's grainy like the 500t, but WAY clearer, with a tighter low end, brighter but warmer top and mids never get all messy like the 500ts mids
it has less output, but still very hot
it has a strong and crunchy thick cutting tone without sounding spikey or harsh

I had the 500t, the Holy Diver, the Miracle Man, the Painkiller, played the Warpig
my favorite bridge pickup is definitely the Cold Sweat (sorry, my little Diver :lol:)

I think it will sound even better in a Gibson V than it does in my MIJ Les Paul copy

I'm thinking of ordering an overwound version of it for my SG
Title: Re: Flying V Metal - Which pickup!?
Post by: Zaned on March 03, 2009, 06:23:06 AM
The Nailbomb isn't exactly tailored for a warm, classic metal sound. Having said that, the MM sounds amazing but too much high end for the sound I'm after right now.

Although, I just found sonicshake's sounds...man that sounds really good and might just swing me on the Cold Sweat.

SS's Rebel Yell clip made me do a sex wee, though. Somebody help me!

Like I said in another thread with RY vs. CS, they were the two strong options for me too. If you listen to the clips (and Tim told me 8)), you'll hear that the RY has more aggressive mids and a little tamer highs, whereas the CS has smoother mids and more cut in the highs.

Now, I only own the CS set, but the already mentioned words tight, thick and cutting are right on the money. It depends on what you're after for that guitar. If your guitar puts out a lot of mids, you'll get a thick and tight, articulate growl with the CS.
But I can't imagine you going wrong with the RY either. I just have the experience with the CS  :)

-Zaned
Title: Re: Flying V Metal - Which pickup!?
Post by: Twaddlefish on March 03, 2009, 07:01:30 PM
the RY has more aggressive mids and a little tamer highs

That is a perfect description of what I want.

The CS I think is just a tad too thick for me, Rebel Yells win! Now, I have to wait until I get my tax rebate back from the Australian govt to buy 'em!
Title: Re: Flying V Metal - Which pickup!?
Post by: Twaddlefish on March 09, 2009, 07:56:54 PM
Anybody know what measurements the Gibson V is...I think it's 50mm, 1/2 inch pole
Title: Re: Flying V Metal - Which pickup!?
Post by: ericsabbath on March 09, 2009, 08:11:05 PM
Anybody know what measurements the Gibson V is...I think it's 50mm, 1/2 inch pole

the 500t is f-spaced
Title: Re: Flying V Metal - Which pickup!?
Post by: Philly Q on March 09, 2009, 08:13:43 PM
Anybody know what measurements the Gibson V is...I think it's 50mm, 1/2 inch pole

the 500t is f-spaced

.....but you should be fine with either the 50mm or 53mm spacing.  And you're probably better off ordering the pickup with long legs, because of the way it's mounted in the scratchplate (and sits quite high above it).
Title: Re: Flying V Metal - Which pickup!?
Post by: Antag on March 09, 2009, 08:19:18 PM
Yeah, I went with 53mm spacing on mine & long legs:
(http://s252.photobucket.com/albums/hh23/george204/th_FV_MM.jpg) (http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh23/george204/FV_MM.jpg)
Title: Re: Flying V Metal - Which pickup!?
Post by: Twaddlefish on March 09, 2009, 08:22:34 PM
I put it at 53mm to be on the safe side, but I guess if it's not right then Tim and co. will adjust it correctly! Woo, can't wait to put 'em in my guitar!