Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: hunter on March 04, 2009, 06:00:26 AM
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ESP-James-Hetfield-Iron-Cross-Electric-Guitar_W0QQitemZ220372096354QQihZ012QQcategoryZ33038QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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And a copy of his Gibson... blah... BS, but always there is a weirdo to buy it
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Yep, You could probably buy a near original Gibson Les Paul custom and add all the piddly bits of cr@p on and relic and still haven't for his recording rig. :P
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the guitar of your nightmares more like it..
Painstaking effort has gone into recreating every nuance of James' original guitar, while adding some new characteristics to make a truly unique signature ESP instrument.
this is such bullcr@p ... what it basically says, we replicated it, but then we unexpectedly dropped it on the floor a couple of times.
besides 35k for that piece of cr@p, for an outdated band, that hasnt released anything good since the 90's?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. even if it was ACTUALLY his, it wouldnt be worth that much. that should've been an LTD for 350, cos that's what the fanboys can actually afford. this price is aimed at collectors and collectors dont buy that shite. that's more than what the EVH frankenstrat replicas were going for.. and EVH is a quadrillion times more popular than hetfield. besides, everyone who actually KNOWS metallica, remembers hetfield by his explorers and not that abomination
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Forget that. Check the seller, 7 things sold on ebay, 75% positive. You're not gunna give the guy 35k.
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Guitar Village still have one available, should anyone be interested. Don't know how much they want for it:
http://www.guitarvillage.co.uk/ (http://www.guitarvillage.co.uk/)
(it's about halfway down the home page, after the Jeff Beck Les Pauls)
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Thats a bit steep, wasn't the original a Gibson????
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haha, that price is ridiculous
Forget that. Check the seller, 7 things sold on ebay, 75% positive. You're not gunna give the guy 35k.
your absolutly right about that.
that was the first thing i looked too, even before i read the describtion :)
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Thats a bit steep, wasn't the original a Gibson????
no, the original is an ESP - exactly the same model - costing about 33k $ less... i didn't know that a couple more scratches were worth all that money... :)
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"This is a very ominous guitar"
Oh my god, it's looming over me! It's so...so....so OMINOUS!
I never understood buying someone's signature guitar...surely when you play, you want to sound like YOU and no one else?
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Guitar Village still have one available, should anyone be interested. Don't know how much they want for it:
http://www.guitarvillage.co.uk/ (http://www.guitarvillage.co.uk/)
(it's about halfway down the home page, after the Jeff Beck Les Pauls)
You're a walking gear database Philly :O)
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Thats a bit steep, wasn't the original a Gibson????
no, the original is an ESP - exactly the same model - costing about 33k $ less... i didn't know that a couple more scratches were worth all that money... :)
I'm pretty sure it was a Gibson:
(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/MetMetal/MyHeroMyIdolJamesHetfield.jpg?t=1236172202)
However, seems a bit unreasonable to rag on ESP for some idiot ramping the price up to an insane level on eBay. Presumably the last Het ESP sig sold well enough to justify them putting this out.
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It was a Les Paul Custom. ESP are cashing in on the fact he uses their guitars now.
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It is a Gibson that Hetfield uses and that makes this ESP even more ridiculous.
A joke of a project from ESP but I don't blame them for the stupid price on Ebay.
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I think it looks cool.
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I think it looks cool.
Cool enough to justify that price, Ben? :P
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I think it looks cool.
Cool enough to justify that price, Ben? :P
Exactly. If we speak 35K$-cool, then I would call THIS cool:
(http://i19.ebayimg.com/05/m/000/9f/77/c207_24.JPG)
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You could have 10 handbuilt Feline Lions for that.....(goes off to check wood supplies)
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You could have 10 handbuilt Feline Lions for that.....(goes off to check wood supplies)
Comeon Jonathan, in that quantity you'd make it a dozen, right?
(PMing other forumites for group order...)
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I'm pretty sure he's been using ESP for a dogs age and I think his Explorers were mostly ESP's as well. My understanding is that Gibson were being pissy about making the guitars, so he went back to ESP and they fixed it up.
For the record that is crazy pennies and the finish rather OTT, it looks a bit like the Jim Henson team were called in. Still it's a japanese made ESP, so I bet it's pretty cool to play. Not that you'd want to, for fear of inciting Mr Hetfeild to pop round to kick your ass for hurting the thing.
I do like the George lynch battered strat mind and a much better price point.
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I'm pretty sure he's been using ESP for a dogs age and I think his Explorers were mostly ESP's as well. My understanding is that Gibson were being pissy about making the guitars, so he went back to ESP and they fixed it up.
Yes all his past sig explorers/ect were ESP BUT "The Iron Cross" is a Gibson...
Is it only me that can see this?
Look at a photograph, this isn't a case of ghost building for gods sake.
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I'm pretty sure I read somewhere the Iron Cross (Gibson) Les Paul was one Hetfield customised himself. Presumably he and/or ESP then decided to base the new sig on that, since it's the guitar he's been using the most of late.
Seems a bit odd, but I suppose such things happen in the weird world of guitar endorsements.
Something else I don't get is why with the Hetfield Eclipses they leave the dummy toggle above the fretboard rather than just building the things without one.
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It's gotta be a joke; right?
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I'm pretty sure he's been using ESP for a dogs age and I think his Explorers were mostly ESP's as well. My understanding is that Gibson were being pissy about making the guitars, so he went back to ESP and they fixed it up.
Yes all his past sig explorers/ect were ESP BUT "The Iron Cross" is a Gibson...
Is it only me that can see this?
Look at a photograph, this isn't a case of ghost building for gods sake.
I knew I shouldn't have deleted the sentence saying that he used the Gibson for all the St Anger Vids etc. He wanted replica's of the Gibson Iron Cross to tour with, but Gibson wouldn't make them for him hence the 'pissy' part. I was just mentioning that he's always used ESP's as people seemed to think this was a new thing. Mine apologies.
Carry on.
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He wanted replica's of the Gibson Iron Cross to tour with, but Gibson wouldn't make them for him hence the 'pissy' part.
Gibson, presumably, being too busy making some sort of ridicu- sorry, STUNNING and INNOVATIVE 'Inside-out SG', or 'thing Zakk Wylde sneezed onto the back of a napkin' or some such bollocks.
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He wanted replica's of the Gibson Iron Cross to tour with, but Gibson wouldn't make them for him hence the 'pissy' part.
Or, more likely, Gibson wouldn't make it for free. And the millionaire rockstar wasn't gpoing to accept the cheeky idea that he should actually pay for something.
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the ebay guy is overchargin. They go for 9000$ street price.
Though the fact that only 50 were made might contribute to inflation.
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He wanted replica's of the Gibson Iron Cross to tour with, but Gibson wouldn't make them for him hence the 'pissy' part.
Or, more likely, Gibson wouldn't make it for free. And the millionaire rockstar wasn't gpoing to accept the cheeky idea that he should actually pay for something.
Isn't Hetfield actually particular about the fact that he should pay for his gear still?
I heard Gibson were making them, but were taking too long so he went to his main guitar brand to do it
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Surely guys this a dead thread; there can't really be much more to be said about a "name" based rip off?
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He wanted replica's of the Gibson Iron Cross to tour with, but Gibson wouldn't make them for him hence the 'pissy' part.
Or, more likely, Gibson wouldn't make it for free. And the millionaire rockstar wasn't gpoing to accept the cheeky idea that he should actually pay for something.
Isn't Hetfield actually particular about the fact that he should pay for his gear still?
I've never heard that, and I was a proper Metallica anorak through my teens. But it might be the case.
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I think it looks cool.
Cool enough to justify that price, Ben? :P
Exactly. If we speak 35K$-cool, then I would call THIS cool:
(http://i19.ebayimg.com/05/m/000/9f/77/c207_24.JPG)
NOW WE'RE TALKING!!!!!!
though i dont know what i'm screaming about, cos i'd probably wouldnt fit in it anyway ... maybe if i took the front seat out and sat on the back bunk :P
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You could have 10 handbuilt Feline Lions for that.....(goes off to check wood supplies)
Comeon Jonathan, in that quantity you'd make it a dozen, right?
(PMing other forumites for group order...)
:lol:
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This is a collector's guitar and therefore the price is very high. It's obviously NOT a player's guitar.
If you wanted a serious ESP player's guitar (or for studio work) a custom ESP would be cheaper than that.
That said, a guy on the ESP forum made a comparison between a Gibson LP custom and a ESP CTM-1 (black) FT (FT= Full thickness, like the Gibson). Both were loaded with EMGs. Iinterestingly, the clips were extremely similar. The price tags were not.
Of course, it doesn't take into account playability and "c--k" factor (of having Gibson written on the headstock).
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You could have 10 handbuilt Feline Lions for that.....(goes off to check wood supplies)
Comeon Jonathan, in that quantity you'd make it a dozen, right?
(PMing other forumites for group order...)
I'll do it if you can organise it!
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That's insane... but hey, if some mug buys it...
It's still just a japanese ESP... i didn't know until recently that the ESP's were made in japan.
Does this not mean that the Edwards guitars are just the same quality? confusing...
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That's insane... but hey, if some mug buys it...
It's still just a japanese ESP... i didn't know until recently that the ESP's were made in japan.
Does this not mean that the Edwards guitars are just the same quality? confusing...
I'm in shock! :D 'Just a Japanese ESP' The Japanese make beautiful guitars of amazing quality. Not $35,000 worth admittedly, but amazing stuff all the same, especially at the custom level. Some of the ESP stuff is a little crazy mind http://www.espguitars.co.jp/gallery/kyomoto/samurai/index.html (http://www.espguitars.co.jp/gallery/kyomoto/samurai/index.html) :roll:, check www.espguitars.co.jp (http://www.espguitars.co.jp) also should show the difference in the Grass Roots, LTD,Edwards and ESP guitars. 8)
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This is a collector's guitar and therefore the price is very high.
that, is a problem in itself
no self respecting collector will have a factory damaged ESP in their fold of nearly priceless fenders and gibsons. and no metallica fan has that kind of money to afford it.
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This is a collector's guitar and therefore the price is very high.
that, is a problem in itself
no self respecting collector will have a factory damaged ESP in their fold of nearly priceless fenders and gibsons. and no metallica fan has that kind of money to afford it.
Oh they will, trust me on that, just like the KH-20.
If you look at the numbers ESP assigns to different markets you also kind of see where the people live who will buy this guitar - and it's certainly not the UK.
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You could have 10 handbuilt Feline Lions for that.....(goes off to check wood supplies)
Comeon Jonathan, in that quantity you'd make it a dozen, right?
(PMing other forumites for group order...)
I'll do it if you can organise it!
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Wow! that would be epic!
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http://page8.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/h127667969
Talking about Zakk....
To save you the maths - the Buy It Now price is almost £4000!
Billy Bargain!
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Or we could all chip in and he could build a special BKP Forum guitar with twelve necks.
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You could have 10 handbuilt Feline Lions for that.....(goes off to check wood supplies)
Comeon Jonathan, in that quantity you'd make it a dozen, right?
(PMing other forumites for group order...)
I'll do it if you can organise it!
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Wow! that would be epic!
Hmm, but wouldn't that then technically be a mass production guitar?
(trying to get out of the situation he created with his big mouth)
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You could have 10 handbuilt Feline Lions for that.....(goes off to check wood supplies)
Comeon Jonathan, in that quantity you'd make it a dozen, right?
(PMing other forumites for group order...)
I'll do it if you can organise it!
:o
Wow! that would be epic!
Hmm, but wouldn't that then technically be a mass production guitar?
(trying to get out of the situation he created with his big mouth)
No - each one would be unique
And could be differing specs - just benefitting from a group purchase price
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Oooh, the price has now come down to the very much more affordable $12k.
LOL @ anyone who buys this sort of thing!
Roo
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You could have 10 handbuilt Feline Lions for that.....(goes off to check wood supplies)
Comeon Jonathan, in that quantity you'd make it a dozen, right?
(PMing other forumites for group order...)
I'll do it if you can organise it!
I'm in! :roll:
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(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m260/fixxxer1988/8-6-12basementmetallicahetfieldiron.jpg)
That is in fact a Gibson!!!!
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Did you not hear that Hetfield was rejected as an endorser by Gibson?
That's why he is back/still with ESP.
He said in an interview in Gitarre & Bass (Germany) that it made him realize, how great things had been going with ESP and he thought that Gibson was made at him because of the Explorer/MX thing.
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Did you not hear that Hetfield was rejected as an endorser by Gibson?
Wow - I would have thought that was a bad move by Gibson
No matter how mad they were about the Explorer thing - to turn away a high profile opportunity like that
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You could have 10 handbuilt Feline Lions for that.....(goes off to check wood supplies)
Comeon Jonathan, in that quantity you'd make it a dozen, right?
(PMing other forumites for group order...)
I'll do it if you can organise it!
I'm in! :roll:
Just tease the "two biggest buyers" for 10s... :lol:
One is thinking about custom built for the first time, the other told that if he goes on the workshop he will get out with a tele and a LP ordered...
+hunter it's 4...
How I wish I could enter :cry:
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You can, but you'll have to leave the guitar at my house :D
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You can, but you'll have to leave the guitar at my house :D
"Dream on, Dream on... Dream 'till your dreams come true" :lol:
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Did you not hear that Hetfield was rejected as an endorser by Gibson?
That's why he is back/still with ESP.
He said in an interview in Gitarre & Bass (Germany) that it made him realize, how great things had been going with ESP and he thought that Gibson was made at him because of the Explorer/MX thing.
Bad move by Gibson... I would consider it if it was a Gibson (well maybe not at the price)
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You could have 10 handbuilt Feline Lions for that.....(goes off to check wood supplies)
Comeon Jonathan, in that quantity you'd make it a dozen, right?
(PMing other forumites for group order...)
I'll do it if you can organise it!
I'm in! :roll:
Just tease the "two biggest buyers" for 10s... :lol:
One is thinking about custom built for the first time, the other told that if he goes on the workshop he will get out with a tele and a LP ordered...
+hunter it's 4...
How I wish I could enter :cry:
It has got me thinking of doing a limited edition run for 2010
Maybe just ten Lions of a special spec.........with a tasty small motif on the headstock
Fancy flametop or quilt in a choice of colours and choice of pickups (BKP of course)
Maybe Emerald, Ruby , Saffire Blue, Amethist (purple) and amber
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I like the idea but I'm not able to talk about how much possible this would be...
I might say that if I were asking you to build me a Lion I would like my specs (woods, colors, etc), beside it, probably I would be ok with the motif in the headstock, being it tasty and small, of course :lol:
The guys going on a luthier are after a very specific thing...
Would be cool if you make a basic spec, that can be changed /upgraded on personal choice... Like someone wanting a $$$$$$$$ 5A Flame Koa top :lol:
As I said, if happened to 10 guys of this forum (or at least some guys of this forum) make this edition happens, would be trully epic!
But I may not be able to attend the run, sorry :(
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I like the idea but I'm not able to talk about how much possible this would be...
I might say that if I were asking you to build me a Lion I would like my specs (woods, colors, etc), beside it, probably I would be ok with the motif in the headstock, being it tasty and small, of course :lol:
The guys going on a luthier are after a very specific thing...
Would be cool if you make a basic spec, that can be changed /upgraded on personal choice... Like someone wanting a $$$$$$$$ 5A Flame Koa top :lol:
As I said, if happened to 10 guys of this forum (or at least some guys of this forum) make this edition happens, would be trully epic!
Thats ok - thats what a custom order is for - for getting a specific spec
The Ltd Edition would be something else - a special run of a model
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It has got me thinking of doing a limited edition run for 2010
Maybe just ten Lions of a special spec.........with a tasty small motif on the headstock
Fancy flametop or quilt in a choice of colours and choice of pickups (BKP of course)
Maybe Emerald, Ruby , Saffire Blue, Amethist (purple) and amber
Sounds a great idea! Looking forward to those pictures.... :D