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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Madiac on March 07, 2009, 03:25:06 PM

Title: Double Cutaway FULLY hollows?
Post by: Madiac on March 07, 2009, 03:25:06 PM
Anyone can recommend any of these on a budget? Perhaps a bit more expensive if they are easy to find second hand. Talking about spending max 900GBP. Im looking to get a Fully hollow bodied guitar to keep in standard while my Feline SG goes to C, with double cutaway so that i can reach the frets :lol: Preferrably not to expensive, any recommendations? Not interested in any SEMI-hollows, i actually want the feedback and i can only play at low volumes, so it absolutely HAS to be a fully hollow:) Thanks
Title: Re: Double Cutaway FULLY hollows?
Post by: hunter on March 07, 2009, 03:58:27 PM

Just to clarify: A 335 doesn't count as fully hollow because it has the center block, right?
Title: Re: Double Cutaway FULLY hollows?
Post by: Madiac on March 07, 2009, 04:01:44 PM

Just to clarify: A 335 doesn't count as fully hollow because it has the center block, right?

I guess so, if it has the center block then its a semi-hollow. Also, i think id prefer one without a trem.
Title: Re: Double Cutaway FULLY hollows?
Post by: Pauldem on March 07, 2009, 04:04:45 PM
Hmm, I was going to recommend the Ibanez AS series as being good quality etc for around 400. Alas as Hunter mentions I think they have a centre block for the pickup stuff etc.
Title: Re: Double Cutaway FULLY hollows?
Post by: Madiac on March 07, 2009, 04:08:40 PM
Yeah, sorry, no center block, kills feedback  8)
Title: Re: Double Cutaway FULLY hollows?
Post by: Fourth Feline on March 07, 2009, 04:25:30 PM
You may want to look up the Peerless 'Renaissance' and 'Songbird' .

They both have the  335 style - but have no centre block / are fully hollow.  The former is Humbucker equipped, whilst the later has  chrome 'dog eared' p90s.  :)
Title: Re: Double Cutaway FULLY hollows?
Post by: Twinfan on March 07, 2009, 04:32:20 PM
Epiphone Casino, or Vintage Guitars also do one - both with P90s.

I think the Yamaha Troy Van Lewen is fully hollow too?
Title: Re: Double Cutaway FULLY hollows?
Post by: Madiac on March 07, 2009, 05:25:42 PM
Epiphone Casino, or Vintage Guitars also do one - both with P90s.

I think the Yamaha Troy Van Lewen is fully hollow too?

Ah yes, the Casino is the most likely option as of now, i love P90s, and it looks good, the thin body is a +, but since i WANT feedback, will i achieve it at bedroom levels with a fair amount of distortion?
Title: Re: Double Cutaway FULLY hollows?
Post by: Madiac on March 07, 2009, 05:36:53 PM
Also, i noticed theres  a LTD with Bigsbys on the casinos. Are these even worth bothering with? Are they cheap bigsbys, or the real deal? I bend ALOT, and with quite some force, so would this affect decision? Besides, i rarely play clean tone.
Title: Re: Double Cutaway FULLY hollows?
Post by: Twinfan on March 07, 2009, 06:08:59 PM
Can't comment on the Bigsbys, but you can get a Casino to feedback quite easily...
Title: Re: Double Cutaway FULLY hollows?
Post by: JustBecos on March 07, 2009, 06:50:14 PM
I tried a peerless songbird recently, which had a really good acoustic sound to it. Also looked really well made I didn't get the chance to really study it to look for finishing flaws but the playability was good with nice setup and clean frets and no sharp edges. The p90's were not great, but not bad considering the price which was not much of £300.00.

All in all I was really impressed with it, the only reason I didn't buy it was I got told I was being made redundant before I could go back and buy it.   

Title: Re: Double Cutaway FULLY hollows?
Post by: Madiac on March 07, 2009, 07:29:28 PM
I tried a peerless songbird recently, which had a really good acoustic sound to it. Also looked really well made I didn't get the chance to really study it to look for finishing flaws but the playability was good with nice setup and clean frets and no sharp edges. The p90's were not great, but not bad considering the price which was not much of £300.00.

All in all I was really impressed with it, the only reason I didn't buy it was I got told I was being made redundant before I could go back and buy it.   



Are you 110% that it was a fully hollow without a center block (semi-hollow)? Then i might look into it, also noticed the Rennaisance model which it states on the site that its a fully hollow:)
So far its between an Epi Casino, Peerless songbird (if truly fully hollow) or renaissance, Gretsch G5122 which i already played and liked, but im unsure about a bigsby, might cause more problems for nothing, i havent yet found use for a trem.
Title: Re: Double Cutaway FULLY hollows?
Post by: JustBecos on March 07, 2009, 07:55:26 PM
The songbird is hollow, you can tell by the weight as it is a lot lighter than a semi.
Title: Re: Double Cutaway FULLY hollows?
Post by: Madiac on March 07, 2009, 08:44:54 PM
Hm, found another possible solution, fernandes sustainer?! Doesnt that give you endless feedback at low volumes too?! :D
Title: Re: Double Cutaway FULLY hollows?
Post by: badgermark on March 07, 2009, 09:15:40 PM
Check out some vintage Fender Coronados. fully hollow and kinda offset.
Title: Re: Double Cutaway FULLY hollows?
Post by: Fourth Feline on March 07, 2009, 11:22:13 PM
Hm, found another possible solution, fernandes sustainer?! Doesnt that give you endless feedback at low volumes too?! :D

Just an additional thought, if your main need for a fully hollow guitar is only for endless sustain at any volume ( implied more tangibly by your reference to the  'Sustainer' ) - a good old fashioned , hand held ' E-Bow' ( as used a lot by Bill Nelson in the 70's and still available ) - might meet your needs at minimum expense and no guitar surgery needed :

http://www.hotroxuk.com/e-bow-3095-0.html

Title: Re: Double Cutaway FULLY hollows?
Post by: Ratrod on March 08, 2009, 11:45:33 AM
Howabout one of these?

(http://www.drumcityguitarland.com/drumcitygl/stores/1/images/Gretsch%20Guitars/Gretsch%20Electromatic%20G%205122DC%20Walnut%206-String%20Electric%20Guitar.jpg)

Title: Re: Double Cutaway FULLY hollows?
Post by: Madiac on March 08, 2009, 01:05:57 PM
Yeah, tried one exactly like that at the shop yesterday, i thought it was great, but i heard some problems with the cheaper parts, sure, one could mod but still, and im not sure i need the bigsby, but anyhow, that is a candidate. Preferrably id go second hand actually.
Title: Re: Double Cutaway FULLY hollows?
Post by: Ted 'N' Leo on March 08, 2009, 09:54:55 PM
Check out some vintage Fender Coronados. fully hollow and kinda offset.

Just googled those. Never seen them before, i know there was the Starcaster (now used by that guy from The Killers), but i never knew of this ones existance.
Title: Re: Double Cutaway FULLY hollows?
Post by: Ratrod on March 09, 2009, 10:55:48 AM
Yeah, tried one exactly like that at the shop yesterday, i thought it was great, but i heard some problems with the cheaper parts, sure, one could mod but still, and im not sure i need the bigsby, but anyhow, that is a candidate. Preferrably id go second hand actually.

It's mostly the electronics that leave a little to be desired. Still better than what you get in an Epi. If you don't need the Bigsby, don't use it. It's not like it's bad for the tone. It'll be hard to find one of those second hand, they're on the market since 2008.

If you go out to shop for one, check if all the electrics work properly, if so it will have little problems later on if you take good care of it and check the nut, these guitars are in high demand, some of the nuts are not as well done as I like to see them.