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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Lew on March 10, 2009, 04:40:28 PM

Title: Franken PRS
Post by: Lew on March 10, 2009, 04:40:28 PM
Check out what some guy over at BAM/TGP has done to his SAS.  :lol: :lol:
(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d96/ron4406/sidebyside.jpg)
(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d96/ron4406/IM000037.jpg)
(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d96/ron4406/IM000036.jpg)
(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d96/ron4406/IM000043-4.jpg)
(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d96/ron4406/IM000031-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Franken PRS
Post by: Simon D on March 10, 2009, 04:54:55 PM
Lovin' $%&#! Each to their own I guess, and I do see the irony value, but I don't like it. Also, with a guitar in that state, WTF does he need straplocks for? :wink:
Title: Re: Franken PRS
Post by: Philly Q on March 10, 2009, 05:06:25 PM
That is so wrong....

..... but also, somehow, extremely right!  :D


It looks like he's done a hell of a good job on the relicing, and I love the way he's retained the "PRS-ness" by keeping the non-locking trem rather than fitting a Floyd.

I'd rather have that than one of the $35,000 EVH guitars.

Title: Re: Franken PRS
Post by: FernandoDuarte on March 10, 2009, 05:09:13 PM
Looks cool! :D
Title: Re: Franken PRS
Post by: richardjmorgan on March 10, 2009, 05:23:35 PM
Yeah, I actually rather like this. It's nice to see some flat colour on a PRS – I think sometimes their propensity for fancy fancy figured tops detracts from the fact that the guitars themselves are a very nice shape.
Title: Re: Franken PRS
Post by: Twinfan on March 10, 2009, 05:24:09 PM
I love it!
Title: Re: Franken PRS
Post by: Ian Price on March 10, 2009, 05:49:22 PM
I think that is really rather good - it could have been very, very bad. I very much doubt it would have worked if the neck had birds!
Title: Re: Franken PRS
Post by: Ted 'N' Leo on March 10, 2009, 05:57:22 PM
That is awesome!

I love the addition of the quarter under the trem.
Title: Re: Franken PRS
Post by: _tom_ on March 10, 2009, 05:59:30 PM
Not a fan, but then I think the original looks like shite as well.
Title: Re: Franken PRS
Post by: Dreichlift on March 10, 2009, 06:00:34 PM
Some people have more money than is good for them.
Title: Re: Franken PRS
Post by: AndyR on March 10, 2009, 06:23:25 PM
:lol: that's a classic...
Those reflectors on the back! :lol:

Title: Re: Franken PRS
Post by: Adam.M on March 10, 2009, 06:41:05 PM
Thats awesome, it's about time someone did something like this, start treating these things just like how we treat all the other brands and not mollycoddling them and treating them like complete prized possessions... they're just guitars after all! just... expensive... :)

As long as he bought it second hand for a good price then it's a great thing! buying something new however and doing this... naaaaaah too much money.
Title: Re: Franken PRS
Post by: 38thBeatle on March 10, 2009, 08:08:27 PM
Very skilfully done but not my bag at all.
Title: Re: Franken PRS
Post by: Twinfan on March 10, 2009, 08:30:59 PM
It was quite heavily used when he bought it I think...
Title: Re: Franken PRS
Post by: Fikealox on March 10, 2009, 08:38:04 PM
I actually like it more than the Frankenstrat  :lol:
Title: Re: Franken PRS
Post by: blue on March 11, 2009, 08:30:13 AM
it is an impressive piece of work, it does actually look good, but still, why?  i think the more money than sense arguement holds water. also too much time on his hands!

what it does show is that the prs body shape would certainly benefit from more interesting finishes.
Title: Re: Franken PRS
Post by: richardjmorgan on March 11, 2009, 09:32:51 AM
what it does show is that the prs body shape would certainly benefit from more interesting finishes.
This has just made me realise how awesome a camo PRS would look. How awesome? Rad to the power of sick, that's how awesome.
Title: Re: Franken PRS
Post by: headtheball on March 11, 2009, 10:32:21 AM
I respectfully disagree, good sir, and I present Exhibit A (http://www.elderly.com/new_instruments/items/SESTD-TREM-CAMO.htm) for the defence
Title: Re: Franken PRS
Post by: AndyR on March 11, 2009, 10:34:10 AM
I respectfully disagree, good sir, and I present Exhibit A (http://www.elderly.com/new_instruments/items/SESTD-TREM-CAMO.htm) for the defence

:lol: but is that cos you don't like camo finish anyway! (my personal position on camo :lol:)
Title: Re: Franken PRS
Post by: headtheball on March 11, 2009, 10:46:24 AM
I don't dislike camo per se, it looks grand on more hard edged/angular instruments.
Title: Re: Franken PRS
Post by: Johnny Mac on March 11, 2009, 10:50:11 AM
Some people have more money than is good for them.

:lol: +1

Title: Re: Franken PRS
Post by: noodleplugerine on March 11, 2009, 11:00:13 AM
I don't dislike camo per se, it looks grand on more hard edged/angular instruments.

But that's just a bad camo finish. It looks really dodgy.

I think this Franken PRS is incredible.
Title: Re: Franken PRS
Post by: Philly Q on March 11, 2009, 11:47:13 AM
I respectfully disagree, good sir, and I present Exhibit A (http://www.elderly.com/new_instruments/items/SESTD-TREM-CAMO.htm) for the defence

Exhibit B:

Danny Spitz's custom PRS.  To be fair, the way they've stained the camo pattern between the grain lines of the spalted maple is very clever.  And I mainly dislike it because it has stupid inlays and the ugliest headstock in the world, ever.

(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p216/phillyq/30U-13217_front.jpg)
(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p216/phillyq/30U-13217_front-detail.jpg)
(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p216/phillyq/30U-13217_front-detail-3.jpg)

Title: Re: Franken PRS
Post by: blue on March 11, 2009, 11:53:18 AM
i actually like the Dan Spitz guitar.  the headstock is an acquired taste... what i don't like is the U.S. inlays.  nothing against america! they just look really tacky.

the S.E. camo does look cr@p :)
Title: Re: Franken PRS
Post by: Philly Q on March 11, 2009, 11:55:06 AM
it is an impressive piece of work, it does actually look good, but still, why?  i think the more money than sense arguement holds water. also too much time on his hands!

But let's suppose he'd had the Swamp Ash Special for a while and it was badly beaten up already, money doesn't come into it - all he's really done is refinish it and simplify the wiring, he hasn't compromised the playability in any way.

And the "too much time on his hands" argument could be applied to almost any activity, depending on personal taste... I'm not sure I ever use my time constructively, in the sense that it benefits anyone else...  :| :wink:
Title: Re: Franken PRS
Post by: blue on March 11, 2009, 12:07:23 PM
yeah, fair comments Philly, i don't imagine my general activities would be considered constructive by most people!  maybe we're just too used to criticising things?  it is very well done, at least as good looking as the official charvels.  i think it might be my general prejudice against relicing coming out
Title: Re: Franken PRS
Post by: richardjmorgan on March 11, 2009, 12:07:51 PM
I respectfully disagree, good sir, and I present Exhibit A (http://www.elderly.com/new_instruments/items/SESTD-TREM-CAMO.htm) for the defence
I agree that looks terrible, but I also agree with noodle that it's because that's just not a good camo finish. I reckon a PRS with a proper carved top, in a similar finish to the ESP camo Vipers would be awesome to the max.

I think the 'spalted camo' thing on the Spitz guitar is quite clever, but don't really think it looks that good, myself. And I agree that the headstock is dreadful.
Title: Re: Franken PRS
Post by: _tom_ on March 11, 2009, 12:12:30 PM
Camo should not be a feature on any guitar. It just looks $%&#ing terrible, no matter how "well" its done. The spalted prs is ok though and clever how they've done it, but camo = fail

imo.
Title: Re: Franken PRS
Post by: noodleplugerine on March 11, 2009, 12:40:49 PM
Quote
Camo should not be a feature on any guitar. It just looks $%&#ing terrible, no matter how "well" its done. The spalted prs is ok though and clever how they've done it, but camo = fail

imo.

Fair nuf, I quite like the look of my camo Viper:

(http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/426/picture072l.jpg)

Then even cooler are the custom shop camos, like this lucky bar-steward from SS.org:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v483/mikernaut/camoX2/DSCN5087.jpg)

http://www.sevenstring.org/forum/sevenstring-guitars/76468-ngd-its-true-eelblack2-makes-dreams-come-true.html

Title: Re: Franken PRS
Post by: AndyR on March 11, 2009, 12:51:30 PM
That Dan Spitz headstock is not at all to my tastes :lol: (the body looks quite cute though...)

I've been wondering why the headstock doesn't work - is it maybe because the tuners are in a straight line rather than following the curve of the headstock? I can see how they'd be easier to use in a straight line (and possibly easier to get a set that would fit?), but wouldn't it look better with the pegs in a curve? (and without that big "PRS" like it is...)

or perhaps it's just an irredeemable abomination that the designer should have received a slap for before they started tooling up :lol:
Title: Re: Franken PRS
Post by: gwEm on March 11, 2009, 01:12:59 PM
I respectfully disagree, good sir, and I present Exhibit A (http://www.elderly.com/new_instruments/items/SESTD-TREM-CAMO.htm) for the defence

the camo-burst look sucks. i do agree the ESP style camo on a proper carved top PRS would be awesome.

i also like the guitar that started this thread
Title: Re: Franken PRS
Post by: exoslime on March 11, 2009, 01:18:57 PM
the franken prs looks great, , i think the work he has put into, the relic process, done really awesome, thumbs up for that!!!

but the spitz camo looks strange, a painted spalted maple top like this is something i havent seen before, and honestly i dont think it looks that good
and i also i dont like the prs se camo, because of how the camo is done.. but i could imagine a prs with a full body urban camo would look great, or a black / dark gray russian style camo :)))
here is a pic. of my ran randy rhoads urban camo... with bareknuckle rebel yell pickup of course ;)

(http://www.revivalband.at/RAN.jpg)

cheers
exoslime
Title: Re: Franken PRS
Post by: gwEm on March 11, 2009, 01:27:37 PM
sweet Ran  :twisted:
Title: Re: Franken PRS
Post by: ToneMonkey on March 11, 2009, 02:01:33 PM
That Dan Spitz PRS is so ugly it could make an onion cry.
Title: Re: Franken PRS
Post by: exoslime on March 11, 2009, 02:18:15 PM
That Dan Spitz PRS is so ugly it could make an onion cry.

haha, that made me laugh really loud now
cheers

sweet Ran  :twisted:
thank you
Title: Re: Franken PRS
Post by: ToneMonkey on March 11, 2009, 02:26:32 PM
Yeah, it's nearly as good as my favorite chat up line:

"Here, does this smell of Ryhipnol to you?"  PDT_003
Title: Re: Franken PRS
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on March 11, 2009, 02:29:01 PM
it is an impressive piece of work, it does actually look good, but still, why?  i think the more money than sense arguement holds water. also too much time on his hands!

But let's suppose he'd had the Swamp Ash Special for a while and it was badly beaten up already, money doesn't come into it - all he's really done is refinish it and simplify the wiring, he hasn't compromised the playability in any way.


I think you are right Philly
A road worn and beaten up PRS which would either need a total overhaul and made to look like new again (expensive?) or use it as the basis to make another guitar that is known for looking beaten up

I think it would be tragic to take a new PRS and do this to it , but to use a guitar that was begging for it - that's another matter, and you then have a pretty rare PRS because who else would do that to one if  it weren't already distressed

And Eddie will get his lawyers onto you too!
Title: Re: Franken PRS
Post by: Philly Q on March 11, 2009, 02:31:52 PM
That Dan Spitz headstock is not at all to my tastes :lol: (the body looks quite cute though...)

I've been wondering why the headstock doesn't work - is it maybe because the tuners are in a straight line rather than following the curve of the headstock? I can see how they'd be easier to use in a straight line (and possibly easier to get a set that would fit?), but wouldn't it look better with the pegs in a curve? (and without that big "PRS" like it is...)

or perhaps it's just an irredeemable abomination that the designer should have received a slap for before they started tooling up :lol:

Basically the latter!  They insisted on trying to "adapt " the standard 3-per-side PRS headstock rather than coming up with something different... and it simply DOES NOT WORK. 

Ultimately, I blame Danny Spitz for not putting up with the normal, beautifully designed, PRS headstock.  And speaking as a fellow short person, I bet he has trouble reaching the high E string tuner anyway!  :P


(By the way, I like those ESP and Ran camos  :) - it suits that kind of modern, black-hardware guitar)
Title: Re: Franken PRS
Post by: HairyChris on March 11, 2009, 03:02:54 PM
Love the FrankenPRS... 2nd hand SAS are not too expensive if you're US based, and that particular model does not come with a figured top anyway.

As for the Spitz... er, yeah. I also hate the headstock. It looks like PRS have done a Dali with their normal headstock - melted it & stuck all the tuners on one side. They really need to make it more elegant because the twin point in that context brings the fug like nothing else. I don't mind hte paintjob, though, which is kind of fun.

You then have the PRS 'Clown Vomit': http://www.hansenguitars.com/catalog/primary/268p.jpg This guitar's been a point of discussion on BaM for years.
Title: Re: Franken PRS
Post by: ToneMonkey on March 11, 2009, 03:06:10 PM

You then have the PRS 'Clown Vomit': http://www.hansenguitars.com/catalog/primary/268p.jpg This guitar's been a point of discussion on BaM for years.

Face like an oversmacked arse.
Title: Re: Franken PRS
Post by: WezV on March 11, 2009, 03:19:22 PM
ever seen what happens when you feed a small child too many skittles!!
Title: Re: Franken PRS
Post by: headtheball on March 11, 2009, 03:54:35 PM
If they're a very organised child, or if you feed them carefully, The Al DiMeola signature?
Title: Re: Franken PRS
Post by: richardjmorgan on March 11, 2009, 06:14:20 PM
(By the way, I like those ESP and Ran camos  :) - it suits that kind of modern, black-hardware guitar)
This is a good point – with camo finish, it has to be black hw.

Oh wow, I've just imagined a PRS with black hardware.

Title: Re: Franken PRS
Post by: gwEm on March 11, 2009, 06:27:09 PM
(By the way, I like those ESP and Ran camos  :) - it suits that kind of modern, black-hardware guitar)
This is a good point – with camo finish, it has to be black hw.

Oh wow, I've just imagined a PRS with black hardware.



is there a gothic/none more black PRS?
Title: Re: Franken PRS
Post by: Twinfan on March 11, 2009, 07:10:48 PM
Nope!
Title: Re: Franken PRS
Post by: hunter on March 11, 2009, 08:51:46 PM
That Dan Spitz headstock is not at all to my tastes :lol: (the body looks quite cute though...)

I've been wondering why the headstock doesn't work - is it maybe because the tuners are in a straight line rather than following the curve of the headstock? I can see how they'd be easier to use in a straight line (and possibly easier to get a set that would fit?), but wouldn't it look better with the pegs in a curve? (and without that big "PRS" like it is...)

or perhaps it's just an irredeemable abomination that the designer should have received a slap for before they started tooling up :lol:

Basically the latter!  They insisted on trying to "adapt " the standard 3-per-side PRS headstock rather than coming up with something different... and it simply DOES NOT WORK. 

Ultimately, I blame Danny Spitz for not putting up with the normal, beautifully designed, PRS headstock.  And speaking as a fellow short person, I bet he has trouble reaching the high E string tuner anyway!  :P


(By the way, I like those ESP and Ran camos  :) - it suits that kind of modern, black-hardware guitar)


I really like this headstock very very much. Like a morph of Ibanez and PRS.
The US inlays and body colors wanna make me puke though.
Aways subjective anyways, isn't it?
Title: Re: Franken PRS
Post by: broken cord on March 12, 2009, 02:56:43 AM
I don't like it. Then again I never really liked the Original FrankenStrat.
Title: Re: Franken PRS
Post by: Johnny Mac on March 12, 2009, 07:57:27 AM
I didn't realise the Dan Spitz model had that headstock design. I agree the camo is very clever on the spalted maple.
I saw that in the flesh at The Astoria a few years back. He looks like he has been drawn by a cartoon artist these days.
Title: Re: Franken PRS
Post by: Frank_C on March 12, 2009, 06:58:59 PM
I like the camo on the Dan Spitz model looks goood with the spalting and the fact thaat its not solid colours like the other one. I'm not a fan of solid colours i like to see the grain of the wood and i think it gives the guitar a more natural touch.