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Title: Roo: do not look at this post
Post by: JDC on March 17, 2009, 05:38:46 PM
Roo is going to kill me for posting this...

fan fret tele!!!!!!!

(http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr134/alexerin220865/Tele.jpg)
Title: Re: Roo: do not look at this post
Post by: AndyR on March 17, 2009, 05:55:58 PM
:lol:

EDIT: I have to admit, it just looks plain wrong, though.. Can't play no Hank Williams toons on a wonky lookin thing like that boy :lol:

I'm vaguely interested in feeling/seeing fanfret - but I couldn't wear that geetar...

I'll be interested to hear what Wez thinks of it?
Title: Re: Roo: do not look at this post
Post by: FernandoDuarte on March 17, 2009, 05:59:16 PM
Looks nicier than I would think if you've told it before show the pic... :D

Now Roo will surrender to his (not that) secret love...
Title: Re: Roo: do not look at this post
Post by: Philly Q on March 17, 2009, 06:01:03 PM
Interesting!  Is it a custom build, or just a new neck on a standard Tele?
Title: Re: Roo: do not look at this post
Post by: JDC on March 17, 2009, 06:20:51 PM
Interesting!  Is it a custom build, or just a new neck on a standard Tele?

I've no idea, I was randomly googling to see if there was any floyd rose or floating bridges you could use on fanned fret guitars (I didn't find any)

someone randomly posted it on some other forum in a post about multiscale guitars, the body looks pretty standard to me and the fanning isn't too extreme but I'm no tele expert
Title: Re: Roo: do not look at this post
Post by: Oli on March 17, 2009, 07:03:19 PM
The bridge looks to be a little longer than a standard to me, the saddles on the higher string have longer adjustment screws too by the looks of it. Glad you posted the pic, i was thinking about building a fanned fret tele, and now i know not to- it doesn't look very good (in my opinion) :)
Title: Re: Roo: do not look at this post
Post by: WezV on March 17, 2009, 07:04:17 PM
looks good to me - that would play really easily.  the bridge is a solution i havnt seen yet but i suppose if you had different length screws it would work fine.  clearly its longer than  a standard tele bridge

edit: and oli just beat me to both those points
Title: Re: Roo: do not look at this post
Post by: WezV on March 17, 2009, 07:07:02 PM
I've no idea, I was randomly googling to see if there was any floyd rose or floating bridges you could use on fanned fret guitars (I didn't find any)

afraid not... not yet anyway.   i think a normal pivoting trem would not work well but i suppose something like a kahler with a new bridge in front could be made to work... unless you do it oli's way and have it fanning out from the bridge
Title: Re: Roo: do not look at this post
Post by: FernandoDuarte on March 17, 2009, 07:24:22 PM
I've no idea, I was randomly googling to see if there was any floyd rose or floating bridges you could use on fanned fret guitars (I didn't find any)

afraid not... not yet anyway.   i think a normal pivoting trem would not work well but i suppose something like a kahler with a new bridge in front could be made to work... unless you do it oli's way and have it fanning out from the bridge

Perhaps could work ask for that workshops/machine shops that work with metal (on lathe, router, etc) and ask for them make the base of the floyd after a drawn made by you... Then put the parts from a Floyd Rose.... Shall work, at least I'm not seeying/remembering* any problem or think that wouldn't work... :D

*Got the feeling I had thought in something not working, but can't remember... :lol:
Title: Re: Roo: do not look at this post
Post by: JDC on March 17, 2009, 07:31:31 PM
I've no idea, I was randomly googling to see if there was any floyd rose or floating bridges you could use on fanned fret guitars (I didn't find any)

afraid not... not yet anyway.   i think a normal pivoting trem would not work well but i suppose something like a kahler with a new bridge in front could be made to work... unless you do it oli's way and have it fanning out from the bridge

sounds like an extreme version of a bigsby, wouldn't you hear the string scratching on the fixed bridge part?
Title: Re: Roo: do not look at this post
Post by: WezV on March 18, 2009, 07:47:27 AM
essentially that is what the idea would be. a fixed or roller bridge with the trem behind.  it raises as many issues it solves but i reckon would be the way to go in order to get a trem on a multiscale.   its essentially what a kahler is anyway, you have roller saddles that never move and a trem mechanism behind it.  cut off the saddle part of a kahler, put on a specially made roller bridge instead... possible solution... maybe!!

problem with a floyd or floating/pivoting trem that i see comes down to the pivot point.  I would guess the best place would be just in front of the high e, then you need a much longer baseplate.  This means when you actually use the trem the bass side will have a lot more movement and raise the strings a lot further than the treble side. Still not sure how much of a problem that would be but i dont want to invest in it to find out..  i have other ideas - but they involve more work, probably a hell of a lot of money and still no garantees about it working well
Title: Re: Roo: do not look at this post
Post by: noodleplugerine on March 19, 2009, 07:01:24 PM
essentially that is what the idea would be. a fixed or roller bridge with the trem behind.  it raises as many issues it solves but i reckon would be the way to go in order to get a trem on a multiscale.   its essentially what a kahler is anyway, you have roller saddles that never move and a trem mechanism behind it.  cut off the saddle part of a kahler, put on a specially made roller bridge instead... possible solution... maybe!!

problem with a floyd or floating/pivoting trem that i see comes down to the pivot point.  I would guess the best place would be just in front of the high e, then you need a much longer baseplate.  This means when you actually use the trem the bass side will have a lot more movement and raise the strings a lot further than the treble side. Still not sure how much of a problem that would be but i dont want to invest in it to find out..  i have other ideas - but they involve more work, probably a hell of a lot of money and still no garantees about it working well

Here's a sherman that's being built with a Kahler:

(http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l187/rgb500/AM-3-1.jpg)
(http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l187/rgb500/AM-2-1.jpg)

Looks great imo
Title: Re: Roo: do not look at this post
Post by: WezV on March 19, 2009, 08:27:07 PM
there you go, i was just thinking of it and its already been done, essentially just how i said as well!!!   

now did kahler make that or did mike modify it... i guess thats what i need to find out!!
Title: Re: Roo: do not look at this post
Post by: noodleplugerine on March 19, 2009, 08:35:33 PM
there you go, i was just thinking of it and its already been done, essentially just how i said as well!!!  

now did kahler make that or did mike modify it... i guess thats what i need to find out!!

I've got a feeling Mike rang them up and designed it with them, but I could be making that up.
Title: Re: Roo: do not look at this post
Post by: JDC on March 20, 2009, 04:11:20 AM
thanks noodleplugerine, I'm surprised there is no locking nut
Title: Re: Roo: do not look at this post
Post by: CaptainDesslock on March 20, 2009, 04:36:22 AM
I think a fanned fret tele is kinda cool, I'd like to see one in action....but 3 pickups on a tele just feels wrong!
Title: Re: Roo: do not look at this post
Post by: noodleplugerine on March 20, 2009, 10:33:01 PM
thanks noodleplugerine, I'm surprised there is no locking nut

Hmmm... Wonder how you'd lock it... Coming up with a fanned nut is probably as hard as coming up with the fanned bridge!

Locking tuners should do the job,
Title: Re: Roo: do not look at this post
Post by: WezV on March 21, 2009, 01:04:13 AM
indeed.  i think locking tuners and a well cut nut would do the job... otherwise you are looking at a lot of money for a specially made locking nut