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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Twinfan on March 25, 2009, 10:43:58 PM

Title: What guitar could I be describing?
Post by: Twinfan on March 25, 2009, 10:43:58 PM
I'm having a bit of a pickup swap around and I've ended up with a pair of TV Jones Classics (neck and bridge) lying around.  They're humbucker sized Filter'trons so will drop striaght into a humbucker route.

I'm thinking of picking up a cheap guitar to put them in, but I'm after something different and I have no idea what I'm looking for!  The specs I have are:

* Something with a Malcolm Young/Billy Gibbons vibe, not necessarily a Gretsch
* Something chambered or semi-hollow
* Doublecut bodies generally work better for me, but I haven't ruled out a singlecut
* 25" or 25.5" scale length
* Wrapover bridge
* Twin humbuckers to be swapped for the TV Classics
* Master volume, master tone, 3-way toggle layout

Is there anything like that out there?
Title: Re: What guitar could I be describing?
Post by: MDV on March 25, 2009, 10:45:47 PM
Just give up and get another PRS!

You know you want to :P
Title: Re: What guitar could I be describing?
Post by: Johnny Mac on March 25, 2009, 10:47:48 PM
Peerless? Or one of those wacky Eastwood designs?
Title: Re: What guitar could I be describing?
Post by: Twinfan on March 25, 2009, 10:52:31 PM
Peerless could be good?  I'll have to look at the model range....
Title: Re: What guitar could I be describing?
Post by: WezV on March 25, 2009, 10:53:54 PM
there is if someone builds it ;)
Title: Re: What guitar could I be describing?
Post by: gwEm on March 25, 2009, 10:54:09 PM
fender coronado

http://www.rocknrollvintage.com/proddetail.asp?prod=1967-fender-coronado
Title: Re: What guitar could I be describing?
Post by: Johnny Mac on March 25, 2009, 10:59:18 PM
http://www.eastwoodguitars.com/GTRs/classic6/images/classic6-big/classic6white.jpg (http://www.eastwoodguitars.com/GTRs/classic6/images/classic6-big/classic6white.jpg)
Title: Re: What guitar could I be describing?
Post by: Philly Q on March 25, 2009, 11:56:56 PM
Not pretty, but it might have the right kind of vibe:

http://www.ibanez.co.jp/products/eg_page09.php?area_id=3&data_id=621&color=CL01&year=2009&cat_id=1&series_id=245 (http://www.ibanez.co.jp/products/eg_page09.php?area_id=3&data_id=621&color=CL01&year=2009&cat_id=1&series_id=245)
Title: Re: What guitar could I be describing?
Post by: Jonny on March 26, 2009, 12:05:25 AM
If you're going for Ibanez:

(http://www.ibanez.co.jp/products/images/eg2009/AJD91_VLS_12_01.gif)

However it fails at the scale length and look, lol..
Title: Re: What guitar could I be describing?
Post by: FernandoDuarte on March 26, 2009, 12:19:42 AM
there is if someone builds it ;)
Wasn't you building one alike this? Is this a order from someone or just a build to keep??


Can't think in anything different from the Gretsches... :?
Title: Re: What guitar could I be describing?
Post by: blue on March 26, 2009, 12:21:59 AM
prs se hollowbody?

epiphone dot studio?

or a gordon smith?
Title: Re: What guitar could I be describing?
Post by: Philly Q on March 26, 2009, 12:28:16 AM
prs se hollowbody?

That's a good suggestion!  :D

Or maybe one of these?  Doesn't match all the specs though:

http://www.reverendguitars.com/reverend/guitars/set_neck_series/manta_ray_hb.html (http://www.reverendguitars.com/reverend/guitars/set_neck_series/manta_ray_hb.html)
Title: Re: What guitar could I be describing?
Post by: hooglebug on March 26, 2009, 12:54:01 AM
there is if someone builds it ;)

damn you beat me to it! swine
Title: Re: What guitar could I be describing?
Post by: mikey5 on March 26, 2009, 01:38:53 AM
Gretsch Duo or Cadillac or is it corvette?
Title: Re: What guitar could I be describing?
Post by: WezV on March 26, 2009, 07:12:42 AM
there is if someone builds it ;)
Wasn't you building one alike this? Is this a order from someone or just a build to keep??


Can't think in anything different from the Gretsches... :?

i started one as carving practice... never got around to finishing it.
Title: Re: What guitar could I be describing?
Post by: headtheball on March 26, 2009, 09:06:12 AM
Eggle Wave?
Title: Re: What guitar could I be describing?
Post by: PPPMAT on March 26, 2009, 09:10:37 AM
What about picking up one of the old DeArmonds? I think they did a chambered one Gretchy style? M77 maybe?
Title: Re: What guitar could I be describing?
Post by: sgmypod on March 26, 2009, 09:17:47 AM
Give us a shout if you change your mind and think of selling them
Title: Re: What guitar could I be describing?
Post by: Twinfan on March 26, 2009, 09:43:00 AM
Thanks for all the suggestions guys  :)

Some of the ones you mention have 24.75" scale length, which rules them out for me.  It's just a bit too cramped and spongy sounding for my tastes.  Also, the Eastwoods/Coronados etc haven't got humbucker routes which is what I need for the TV Jones'.  They're the size of a 'bucker, not a Filter'tron.

A custom from Wez would be great, but as this is a bit of an experiment I don't want to spend big bucks.  I might not like it!!!

The PRS SE Hollowbody is a good suggestion, I can't believe I didn't think of that myself!  It's a bit sophisticated though maybe?  I was thinking something a little more quirky?  Like a Duesenberg maybe?

(http://www.eastsideguitarsanddrums.com/PRS_SE-Hollow_Nat.jpg)

(http://www.duesenberg.de/duesenberg/image/inst/hb_starplayer_bs.jpg)

Title: Re: What guitar could I be describing?
Post by: sgmypod on March 26, 2009, 09:45:05 AM
Duesnberg...oh yeah..and blue sparkle nice choice
Title: Re: What guitar could I be describing?
Post by: Twinfan on March 26, 2009, 10:19:04 AM
Bit pricey though, I'm not looking to spend that much....
Title: Re: What guitar could I be describing?
Post by: sgmypod on March 26, 2009, 10:21:48 AM
try to find second hand or cheaper end the peerless are good..also some of the more normal italia's tried a italia that was a semi..double cut was very nice...also tried the peerless version of white falcon..if it wasn't  white huge and had gold hardware would have been perfect *L*
Title: Re: What guitar could I be describing?
Post by: Adam.M on March 26, 2009, 10:52:49 AM
Something from Hagstrom maybe?
Title: Re: What guitar could I be describing?
Post by: Philly Q on March 26, 2009, 11:25:59 AM
The PRS SE Hollowbody is a good suggestion, I can't believe I didn't think of that myself!  It's a bit sophisticated though maybe? 

I think they're pretty basic and stripped-down really.  Instant familiarity for you, as a PRS man (although they're not going to feel as nice as your US ones, and the flat top might seem a bit weird).

And they have the advantage of a standard rear-access control cavity, so no dragging parts through f-holes to do a pickup change!  :)

I have a suspicion you'll do what I've done may times - hatch the idea of getting a "cheap" guitar as an experiment, then think about it too much and end up with something for three times the price!  :lol:
Title: Re: What guitar could I be describing?
Post by: Madiac on March 26, 2009, 11:38:11 AM
Something from Hagstrom maybe?


Yeah, you should try some Hagströms. They have alot of cheaper end stuff that looks nice, and the one i tried in the store was amongst the best playing guitars i tried there. the Hagström Viking is hollow with f-holes  and double cut. Gibson ES style, but the shape is a bit different, however, those i think are 24.75. Then they have a few les paul style guitars that are a bit longer scale, 648mm (i guess thats 25"?), but no f-holes
But if you can find a hagström that suits your needs, i think it could be worth a try, but maybe i was just lucky with the one i played at the store.
Title: Re: What guitar could I be describing?
Post by: Ratrod on March 26, 2009, 12:26:37 PM
(http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/106/l_656e7c81c0978af09fd7c600361b1695.jpg)

(http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/28/l_0440a93eb7e05d2f4231ea9bdeea299c.jpg)

(http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/75/l_e43ba5ba5cc22b4d52df70067835fab8.jpg)

http://www.myspace.com/king_guitars (http://www.myspace.com/king_guitars)

Title: Re: What guitar could I be describing?
Post by: Ratrod on March 26, 2009, 12:28:45 PM
But you can always get a Gretsch Malcolm Young II

(http://www.themusiczoo.com/gretsch/G6131MY_Malcolm_Young_Natural_2_Pickup_JT08041179combo.jpg)

Title: Re: What guitar could I be describing?
Post by: Twinfan on March 26, 2009, 12:34:54 PM
Gretsch's are no good - my pickups won't fit.

Those Kings look interesting....
Title: Re: What guitar could I be describing?
Post by: indysmith on March 26, 2009, 12:36:25 PM
(http://www.duesenberg.de/duesenberg/image/inst/hb_starplayer_tb_o.jpg)
Doesn't have the wraparound bridge, but it's damn sexy!
http://www.duesenberg.de/duesenberg/en_inst.php?id=tv
Title: Re: What guitar could I be describing?
Post by: sgmypod on March 26, 2009, 12:47:58 PM
Yup damn sexy
Title: Re: What guitar could I be describing?
Post by: Twinfan on March 26, 2009, 12:51:38 PM
Hmmmm.  It may have to be a Duesy...
Title: Re: What guitar could I be describing?
Post by: sgmypod on March 26, 2009, 12:56:50 PM
Beautifully made...guitars
Title: Re: What guitar could I be describing?
Post by: Copperhead on March 26, 2009, 01:54:56 PM
Heritage, but unfortunately NOT cheap.
Title: Re: What guitar could I be describing?
Post by: Twinfan on March 26, 2009, 01:56:18 PM
Heritage, but unfortunately NOT cheap.

So anything by a particular brand, and not on spec?  That helps loads, cheers!  :lol:
Title: Re: What guitar could I be describing?
Post by: Copperhead on March 26, 2009, 02:49:03 PM
Umm........ last time I checked, they only made one semi hollow double cut, the H-535. I had one, very nice, very impressive quality.
Title: Re: What guitar could I be describing?
Post by: FernandoDuarte on March 26, 2009, 03:00:24 PM
I started one as carving practice... never got around to finishing it.

Seems you should finish it quickly! :P


I like that King guitars too!
Title: Re: What guitar could I be describing?
Post by: Ratrod on March 26, 2009, 05:05:08 PM
Gretsch's are no good - my pickups won't fit.

Those Kings look interesting....

I misread you had HB sized ones. Sorry.

In that case look for an electromatic version of the Malcolm Young called the G1910.

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3102/2658034195_71a3f6db2f.jpg?v=0)

Also in natural.
Title: Re: What guitar could I be describing?
Post by: Twinfan on March 26, 2009, 05:17:01 PM
:o

Oh.  My.  God.

I want  :D
Title: Re: What guitar could I be describing?
Post by: sgmypod on March 26, 2009, 05:27:05 PM
pretty
Title: Re: What guitar could I be describing?
Post by: Fourth Feline on March 26, 2009, 05:59:47 PM
:o

Oh.  My.  God.

I want  :D

And we ALL know what usually follows that sentence ( eventually ) ....   :lol:

Oh lawdy, lawdy ...  :wink:
Title: Re: What guitar could I be describing?
Post by: sgmypod on March 26, 2009, 06:01:04 PM
I prefer the natural though if there giving them away any colour will do
Title: Re: What guitar could I be describing?
Post by: Philly Q on March 26, 2009, 07:08:56 PM
In that case look for an electromatic version of the Malcolm Young called the G1910.

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3102/2658034195_71a3f6db2f.jpg?v=0)


It's not giving me GAS, but that is mighty cool. 8) 

So are we talking £1500 suddenly, or do Gretsch have a budget range?
Title: Re: What guitar could I be describing?
Post by: Ratrod on March 26, 2009, 07:17:25 PM
That one is the budget range. This model is not made anymore so you have to look around. It has a bolt-on neck and it's not semi-hollow like a 'real' Jet but it is chambered AFAIK.

If you can find one, they usually go for $300 - $450.
Title: Re: What guitar could I be describing?
Post by: dave_mc on March 26, 2009, 07:38:47 PM
haha, you have a problem... :lol:

i'd second the eggle which headtheball suggested (though i haven't tried the waves)- if you look hard enough, you can often find them NOS for £500 or so, even less if you go second-hand. you might have to hold out a while for the wraparound bridge, though.

absolutely no idea how one would sound with tv jones pickups, though, i've never tried them... :lol:
Title: Re: What guitar could I be describing?
Post by: sgmypod on March 27, 2009, 09:33:44 AM
had one of the budget range gold sparkle pro jet..wish I had kept it..great guitar once set up properly...get visiting right, mate has it now....mmm got gas now to buy another...only downside..may need slight routing for the humbuckers