Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: bareknucklehead on March 31, 2009, 05:05:39 PM
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What's up guys. I wanna know what's your favorite floating tremolo and why? What I mean is what features you like the most like the materials they are built with, the tuning stability and intonation, stringing them, etc.
I'm asking this because I'm going to get a custom guitar and I would like a floating tremolo on it (for the occasional dive bombing), and I want the best in terms of stability and reliability. (too bad that parker and steinberger don't sell their trem parts)
Cheers.
Also, I've heard that most of the floating trems have a "knife" type of structure while others have a "ball bearing" mechanism (or something like that) which is supposed to be better in the long term, so if you could also clarify that for me I would appreciate it.
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Blocked ones.
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steinberger
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Ibanez ZR - great tone, not much loss of sustain, relatively easy to set up, if you break a string guitar doesn't go out of tune, has built-in d-tuner, smooth ball-bearing action (rather than knife edge), very likeable tremolo!
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If you're getting a custom guitar I presume you've already owned/played quite a few guitars before.
What did and didn't you like about the trems on those?
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Locking trem - Floyd Rose original
Non locking - Hipshot tremolo
Vintage type - BKP strat trem
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Wait, yeah, the ZRs take away a lot of the headache of trems while still leaving you with a trem. Good stuff. Thats my vote.
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Ibanez ZR - great tone, not much loss of sustain, relatively easy to set up, if you break a string guitar doesn't go out of tune, has built-in d-tuner, smooth ball-bearing action (rather than knife edge), very likeable tremolo!
+1! :)
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Vigier/Schaller 2010 trem, pivots on ball bearings, smooth and wont wear easy.
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I'm not a big fan of trems, but I do like the feel of the Kahler.
I would like to try the Vigier and Ibanez ZR.
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Ibanez ZR - great tone, not much loss of sustain, relatively easy to set up, if you break a string guitar doesn't go out of tune, has built-in d-tuner, smooth ball-bearing action (rather than knife edge), very likeable tremolo!
since the ZR trems ain't on a knife edge can you still do flutters on them?
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Blocked ones.
+999
:lol:
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Blocked ones.
+999
:lol:
:drink:
These are among my favourite secret weapons
(http://www.ibanezcollectors.com/discus/messages/17/1000988.jpg)
I screw the trem in so jacks into the body, lift it to level, and lock that down. Permanently. Get more resonance out of the guitar that way.
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Ibanez ZR - great tone, not much loss of sustain, relatively easy to set up, if you break a string guitar doesn't go out of tune, has built-in d-tuner, smooth ball-bearing action (rather than knife edge), very likeable tremolo!
since the ZR trems ain't on a knife edge can you still do flutters on them?
i don't use mine (but unlike the other floating units i own/ed i've there was no need to block it...), but as far as i know they're a lot less "floating" than floyds... they can be set on very rigid setting or can be left highly mobile, though.
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Blocked ones.
+999
:lol:
:drink:
These are among my favourite secret weapons
(http://www.ibanezcollectors.com/discus/messages/17/1000988.jpg)
I screw the trem in so jacks into the body, lift it to level, and lock that down. Permanently. Get more resonance out of the guitar that way.
:o
had i known before...
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Blocked ones.
+999
:lol:
:drink:
These are among my favourite secret weapons
(http://www.ibanezcollectors.com/discus/messages/17/1000988.jpg)
I screw the trem in so jacks into the body, lift it to level, and lock that down. Permanently. Get more resonance out of the guitar that way.
:o
had i known before...
Now ya do. These things keep my options open, basically - they mean I can still buy FR equiped guitars :lol:
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it's no good for me... this removed one of the few GAS-suppressor factors... :lol:
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:lol:
The cats out of the bag now, though - if you see a guitar with a floyd that you'd like, I defy you not to remember the tremol-no!
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Wilkinson VS. I am curious about the Hipshot though.....
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+1 on the Wilkinson VS100 - loads of movement potential especially if you have a small cavity routed. The PRS trem is also a very very good non-locking unit, but I suspect it's very expensive to buy as an off-the-shelf part.
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I absolutely love my PRS trem, but i doubt i'll use it much. Great piece of engineering.
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Wilkinson VS100. Buy direct from Trev and you get the Gotoh made one which looks and feels better made than the licenced versions i've seen/had. He also does a version that locks into the trem cover, i recall having one on an Eggle LA which worked great.
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My favorite is the Schaller Floyd with the OFR a close second. Kind of a mott point those as Schaller makes both of them and they are pretty darn similar.
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The good ole Bigsby. (yes you can bend up with those too)
You still have a bridge for palm muting, you can press hard without going sharp.
Great tuning stability when setup right.
It might not have big range but the effect is dramatic.
The arm doesn't wobble around, it stays where you want it.
Great tone.
Great looks.
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Blocked ones.
+1 :lol: Silly devices which have no use in normal music :P
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http://www.tremol-no.com/
I'll check it out.
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Floyd Rose Original. All the other floating tremolo's I've used have been cack.
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If you're getting a custom guitar I presume you've already owned/played quite a few guitars before.
What did and didn't you like about the trems on those?
To be quite honest with you, I'm still a "noob", I want an axe with a tremolo, but I don't want to deal with all of the hassles of the locking variety, I want to do the occasional dive bomb and the likes. That's why I'm looking for a well-built, stable (as far as floating goes) quality one.
So, If I have to decide upon those factors, for which one I should settle?
The Gotoh version?
http://www.sounds-planet.com/gotoh_catalog/gotoh-e/htmlfile/tremolounits.html
The Wilkinson?
http://www.sounds-planet.com/gotoh_catalog/gotoh-e/htmlfile/batterrybox&wilkinson.html
or the Hipshot or PRS?
(I don't know about the ibanez ZR, if they sell it as a spare part so you can put it on your guitar)
Cheers.
The steinberger one seems pretty cool, but again, they don't sell it as spare (and it looks like a pain to modify you axe to fit it).
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I like the trem I have in one of the illegal Strats I made. The guitar is very resonant and the trem actually stays in tune.
That trem is a Callaham block with Fender "Pat. Pending" saddles and I have no idea where the rest of the parts came from but it works. Too bad the guitar doesn't have some other issues.
I also liked the trem in my old Jazzmaster. Too bad I sold it. :(
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I like the trem I have in one of the illegal Strats I made. The guitar is very resonant and the trem actually stays in tune.
That trem is a Callaham block with Fender "Pat. Pending" saddles and I have no idea where the rest of the parts came from but it works. Too bad the guitar doesn't have some other issues.
I also liked the trem in my old Jazzmaster. Too bad I sold it. :(
Good choice on the Callaham, i've heard they are very nice! Been thinking about getting one for my Squier Affinity strat (first guitar) but i'm unsure on the width for that particular guitar...
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I like the trem I have in one of the illegal Strats I made. The guitar is very resonant and the trem actually stays in tune.
That trem is a Callaham block with Fender "Pat. Pending" saddles and I have no idea where the rest of the parts came from but it works. Too bad the guitar doesn't have some other issues.
I also liked the trem in my old Jazzmaster. Too bad I sold it. :(
Good choice on the Callaham, i've heard they are very nice! Been thinking about getting one for my Squier Affinity strat (first guitar) but i'm unsure on the width for that particular guitar...
I'd drop them an email; they are usually pretty good about answering questions.