Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
At The Back => Time Out => Topic started by: gwEm on April 02, 2009, 10:17:57 PM
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i sometimes get the impression i'm in the minority of people who prefer a vintage axe on this board. lets see!
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custom ... i'm fairly picky, so if it's not really 100% what i want, i wont buy it... i did an impulse buy once and now i cant sell the guitar for peanuts :S
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Off-the-shelf, not necessarily new but I like to feel no-one else has "left their mark" too much.
Nothing against custom, but there isn't any one design I've really set my heart on. I could probably have 3 or 4 customs.... if money was no object.
I don't like vintage guitars, because I like to customise and I feel it's bad karma to mess with something that's been acquiring mojo for 30 or 40 years (hmmm, that's a bit third-eye of me... :wink:). Again, if I had infinite funds I might be a collector - but I wouldn't customise those.
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i like vintage... or new custom built stuff... ah bugger it - i think i like most of them
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You can guess mine!
Off the shelf in the main :)
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My Carvin falls under custom so I voted custom. Though I usually buy second hand guitars that aren't too beat up. Would have another custom guitar if I could afford it.
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I like my guitars...
I like them too ;)
Personally, I don't care that much. I have played some Felines, and they are all superb. While my LP is not vintage, it is beat up, has mojo, and heavily modded.
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Definitely custom!
Show me an off-the-shelf fanned fret 6 string with bridge pickup only, really nice woods, top end hardware and a unique body shape and I'll point out that I've already got it, thanks all the same :)
Roo
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I voted vintage because I assume that means vintage style, e.g. Les Paul / Tele / Strat as opposed to Ibanez / ESP superstrats, or that awful stuff Dean do.
I don't care what year it's made, but I prefer vintage styles.
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I went for custom, as at the end of the day I'd want something that's perfect for me.
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Definitely custom!
Show me an off-the-shelf fanned fret 6 string with bridge pickup only, really nice woods, top end hardware and a unique body shape and I'll point out that I've already got it, thanks all the same :)
Roo
Haha Roo you REALLY love that guitar don't you? That's awesome!
I went for off-the-shelf. I just like the feel of new modern guitars, and I don't know what I'd decide on if i were to go custom...
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If money was no object, I would rather like to be the Charles Saatchi of British luthiery (is that a word) especially supporting up and coming British luthiers.
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Poll could be worded better. I would prefer custom built, but don't have the $$$ so I chose off the shelf contemporary.
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Will: your kahler les paul is definitely vintage in my book, which for me is more than 20 years old.
Maybe I could have worded it better indeed.
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I put vintage but I dithered between that and custom.
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I need a ruling before I vote gwem!
I don't like vintage itself - as in old and second hand. The guitars I want are the expensive ones, and my wallet doesn't think I can justify the prices enough :lol:
But I do like ALL my guitars to be modelled on vintage guitars. Eg. I don't like the way the strat has evolved for example - just personal taste, this is :D
So I do tend to buy "off the shelf", but "re-issues" mainly.
How should I be voting? (My mouse is hovering over "Vintage" - but it's not true if this means I prefer buying guitars that are themselves 30+ years old :lol:)
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Well, I took "vintage" to mean actually vintage (or at least old), regardless of whether it's a "classic" design or not.
If we're just talking about vintage styled,then I guess I'm in that camp. I don't have any BC Rich Warbeasts or Washburn* Dimeslimes in my collection.
(* or was it a Dean? I forget).
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That's what I thought about vintage as well Philly...
But the use of the word "contempory" next to "off the shelf" means I definitely can't go for the second option...
or am I taking this too seriously? :lol:
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Well, I took "vintage" to mean actually vintage (or at least old), regardless of whether it's a "classic" design or not.
yes, thats what i intended
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No doubt about it - custom.
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The pole needs a 4th option - Off the shelf traditional.
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The pole needs a 4th option - Off the shelf traditional.
nah, i just meant off the shelf in general. i'll tweak it
not surprised by the lack of vintage support, knowing the people on here, but i do wonder about it. for me its clear. i'd take a nice vintage axe any day - for that mojo. but maybe it shows we are all informed forward thinking people and know what to do to make a modern guitar as good as these legends
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*shrug* suits me, but does it suit andy et al?
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*shrug* suits me, but does it suit andy et al?
maybe not ;)
but the polls had some time time run now, would be unfair to add another option
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Off the shelf for me (or off Dave). I used to think vintage was the way to go, my new esquire has put paid to that notion.
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For me, it's a toss up between custom and vintage... with vintage instruments, you're fairly limited in what you can get (compared to custom). That said, i play my '88 Charvel a hell of a lot more than my custom Ran, so there must be something in the mojo. I'll vote for vintage, because of the mojo :)
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i like vintage... or new custom built stuff... ah bugger it - i think i like most of them
+1 :lol:
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I voted "off the shelf contemporary" but that's because that's what I can afford to own. I would like my guitars to be mostly Fender Strats built between 1957 and 1963 but that isn't going to happen unless I manage to make my fortune at something. So if this poll is "realistically what guitars do you choose to buy" another could be "what I'd really like sitting on my guitar stand if I didn't have to pay for it would be..." I suspect we might see a very different split in the vintage/ non-vintage divide on that.
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I like off the shelf when it comes to Les Pauls.
However with SGs I'm not a fan of the neck heaviness, strap button positions and the apparent weak neck join puts me right off. So if/when I get an SG, its being custom made to address those issues.
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I'm sure you can guess what I chose, but since I definately qualify as vintage (being somewhat over 20 years old!), I'm not as worried about modifying a vintage guitar (probably half of my vintage ones have BK pickups - partly because I don't mind buying something non-original and fixing it up). I also like custom (having about 10 custom guitars), and I have been known to buy the odd off the shelf guitar.
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I ( eventually ) voted "off the shelf" ; NOT because that precludes a love / appreciation of vintage guitars, but because I am just happy to find a guitar I like - and ( in the real world ) can actually afford. :)
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Custom but also off the shelf. I can't afford Vintage unless they're from JHS Distribution!
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I'm not as worried about modifying a vintage guitar (probably half of my vintage ones have BK pickups - partly because I don't mind buying something non-original and fixing it up).
Good point, I agree that it's not a big deal modding a vintage guitar with non-original parts.
My Melody Maker came with individual Kluson tuners (which are fine, but the originals would have been three-on-a-strip), replacement pots and a Badass bridge - I had no hesitation over changing the bridge, because it was shite. I also have a replacement pickup, but kept the original.
But I wouldn't dream of routing/drilling the body or scratchplate. And I'd feel the same about the whole guitar if it was all original.
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I have one vintage guitar, a 70s Japanese Mustang copy. And it feels so different than the other guitars. It's got dings, scratches and rust. Mojo isn't the right word, but it's the first that comes to mind. But on the whole, i take my guitars off the shelf, though I'd love to find a few discontinued models though, an Ibanez Talman would be lovely.
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A have two over 20 years old, 5 off shelf..some higher priced than others, one custom but not my specs..then bitsa things
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So are pre-1990 superstrats Vintage? That's me I guess :P
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*shrug* suits me, but does it suit andy et al?
maybe not ;)
but the polls had some time time run now, would be unfair to add another option
Yeah, suits me :D
Finally voted "off the Shelf"...
... as long as everybody understands that I'm now old enough to view anything labelled as "contemporary" with some suspicion and distaste :lol:
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... as long as everybody understands that I'm now old enough to view anything labelled as "contemporary" with some suspicion and distaste :lol:
I'm OK with "contemporary". It's "urban" that really gets my goat! :x
(I don't mean in the traditional sense of relating to a town or city, I'm talking strictly in a music/fashion/pop culture context!)
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I voted "custom" because I own a few custom guitars & warmoth builds. Even the guitars I bought "off the peg" have been modified (& not just with BKPs).
Probably my least-modified guitars are my Jackson RR1T & KV2 - the only things I've changed on those are Schaller straplocks & BKPs.
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So are pre-1990 superstrats Vintage? That's me I guess :P
i would call them vintage myself :)
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So are pre-1990 superstrats Vintage? That's me I guess :P
i would call them vintage myself :)
thats coz we are young gwEm.... these old un's are like the river in Egypt :P ;)
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So are pre-1990 superstrats Vintage? That's me I guess :P
i would call them vintage myself :)
I'd call them New. :wink:
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So are pre-1990 superstrats Vintage? That's me I guess :P
i would call them vintage myself :)
I'd call them New. :wink:
So are pre-1990 superstrats Vintage? That's me I guess :P
i would call them vintage myself :)
thats coz we are young gwEm.... these old un's are like the river in Egypt :P ;)
certain individuals might be called 1/10 relics in need of restoration rather than vintage... :-P
(sorry phillyq!)
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certain individuals might be called 1/10 relics in need of restoration rather than vintage... :-P
(sorry phillyq!)
Is that like the Bravewood system, where a 1/10 relic basically means completely trashed? :lol:
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Talking of Bravewoods, a friend of mine has just bought one second hand (S type). I hope to get to play it soon.He is raving about it and he is very particular.
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I like guitars - end of.
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Talking of Bravewoods, a friend of mine has just bought one second hand (S type). I hope to get to play it soon.He is raving about it and he is very particular.
Once you play it you won't beleive it is a new guitar. They really do seem to have the mojo of an old one.
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So are pre-1990 superstrats Vintage? That's me I guess :P
i would call them vintage myself :)
I'd call them New. :wink:
Yep, guitar-wise, anything after 1963/64 is "contemporary" :lol:
There's no way I can describe my old 82/83 JV Squier as "vintage" - that just makes me laugh when I think about it...
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So are pre-1990 superstrats Vintage? That's me I guess :P
i would call them vintage myself :)
I'd call them New. :wink:
Yep, guitar-wise, anything after 1963/64 is "contemporary" :lol:
There's no way I can describe my old 82/83 JV Squier as "vintage" - that just makes me laugh when I think about it...
But its nevertheless from a totally different era of music, and also attitude to instrument construction. plus, its been very well played in by now i'm sure. all a matter of perception then :)
PhillyQ: was referring to the Bravewood system, have also been GASing at their website :)
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plus, its been very well played in by now i'm sure...
It's totally f@cked :lol:
(actually, I've restored it slightly, and it is playable, but... it wouldn't be able to command "top dollar" for its type/class/pedigree)
But yeah, I do see where you're coming from. The reason it makes me giggle, is because I bought it as it was marketed: a cheap copy of a vintage guitar :lol:
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But yeah, I do see where you're coming from. The reason it makes me giggle, is because I bought it as it was marketed: a cheap copy of a vintage guitar :lol:
To be fair though, they did get rave reviews right from day one - I remember a big feature in Sounds when they reviewed the first batch of Squier models and compared them favourably with the real Fenders of the day.
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Sorry, yeah - I accidentally over-emphasised "cheap" Philly :lol:
I had the same newspaper clippings :D
I wanted a strat, any strat, but couldn't afford one. What I really wanted was a 61-63 strat. And then suddenly there were all these rave reviews about these cheap copies of 57s and 62s.
I spent ages trying to get my local music shop in Exeter to get one in to try - but they couldn't afford to unless I could promise to buy it. And then one day, while I was waiting for my new Laney 50W combo to arrive, there it was hanging on the wall... I cursed them roundly until they explained:
a) It wasn't a new one, it was 6 months old, one previous owner, no marks, they'd just taken it in part exchange.
b) They'd already figured out a deal for me personally (taking into account the Laney on order).
So my Dad's offer of "an Ovation" as a graduating present, somehow turned itself into a "62-ish Strat, plus valve amp to demolish pubs with..."
Result!
OK gwem, yeah, it's a vintage geetar :lol:
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Off the shell and Custom 8)
Cheers.
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I cant decide between new and vintage. Custom is simply out of my price range.
I have recently bought a Shergold for £60 It needs a few small things done but after that and some playing i may be able to reach a decision. Shergold is vintage enough right?? 1976??
But i still love my Epi SG.