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Title: Cold Sweats nailing some Hardcore/Metal tones via Axe-FX
Post by: Nolly on April 05, 2009, 03:10:08 AM
Hey guys,

I'm in the states visiting my buddy Misha (aka "Bulb"), and picking up an Axe-FX Ultra in the process. We started a hardcore/metal side-project called Snuggles, just for funsies, and bashed out a couple of tracks using the Axe for the guitar tones.

The guitar used is Misha's Blackmachine B6, with its set of Cold Sweats.

Without further ado:

Uncle Bubbles:

http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/790683/Uncle%20Bubbles.mp3

Shinty-Six:

http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/790683/Shinty-Six.mp3

Check us out at:

www.myspace.com/snugglesband

Hope you all like it, we will get someone to add some lovely screamy vocals in due course.

Cheers!

Nolly
Title: Re: Cold Sweats nailing some Hardcore/Metal tones via Axe-FX
Post by: sebby123 on April 05, 2009, 08:37:18 AM
Sounds great love that organic compression they give thanks for drilling me to get them in ever post i had!
Title: Re: Cold Sweats nailing some Hardcore/Metal tones via Axe-FX
Post by: dheim on April 05, 2009, 11:08:40 AM
an exclamation, a consideration and a question. in order:

1) HOLY shite!

2) tone is jaw-dropping, and playing as well... it's not my genre of choice but riffing is also killer.

3) have you used the AxeFX directly into DA or computer or just as a preamp like hunter does?
Title: Re: Cold Sweats nailing some Hardcore/Metal tones via Axe-FX
Post by: JDC on April 05, 2009, 01:36:20 PM
hey nolly, why does bulb have 4 axe fx's? the only thing I can think of is he's avoiding the lag in patch switching, I heard fredrick from meshuggah has a separate axe fx for lead sounds because he doesn't like the lag
Title: Re: Cold Sweats nailing some Hardcore/Metal tones via Axe-FX
Post by: noodleplugerine on April 05, 2009, 02:57:18 PM
Super.
Title: Re: Cold Sweats nailing some Hardcore/Metal tones via Axe-FX
Post by: Nolly on April 05, 2009, 03:22:51 PM
Glad you guys like it!

have you used the AxeFX directly into DA or computer or just as a preamp like hunter does?

This is direct into the DA, no post-eqing or anything.

hey nolly, why does bulb have 4 axe fx's? the only thing I can think of is he's avoiding the lag in patch switching, I heard fredrick from meshuggah has a separate axe fx for lead sounds because he doesn't like the lag

Hahaha, that was part of our April Fool's joke. He only has one, the others are for the two guitarists of The Safety Fire and myself. :)
Title: Re: Cold Sweats nailing some Hardcore/Metal tones via Axe-FX
Post by: JDC on April 05, 2009, 03:59:19 PM
lol I was thinking maybe it was 2 each for 2 guitarists, as if the lag was such an issue he'd just have 2 with the same patches on, switch the patch on the one not in use and then switch to it with an A/B box when he needed it... I've so thought this through way too much!

so what do your patches look like? wasn't bulb's a recto and a soldano or am I thinking of someone else?

are you using your own cab impulse? I'm using an engl one in revalver that I got off some amp modelling forum, I wish someone would make a g12k100 impulse!!!
Title: Re: Cold Sweats nailing some Hardcore/Metal tones via Axe-FX
Post by: Johnny Mac on April 05, 2009, 04:10:48 PM
That sounds great, those Axe FX are something else!  :D
Title: Re: Cold Sweats nailing some Hardcore/Metal tones via Axe-FX
Post by: Nolly on April 05, 2009, 04:53:06 PM
lol I was thinking maybe it was 2 each for 2 guitarists, as if the lag was such an issue he'd just have 2 with the same patches on, switch the patch on the one not in use and then switch to it with an A/B box when he needed it... I've so thought this through way too much!

so what do your patches look like? wasn't bulb's a recto and a soldano or am I thinking of someone else?

are you using your own cab impulse? I'm using an engl one in revalver that I got off some amp modelling forum, I wish someone would make a g12k100 impulse!!!

The patch uses a VH4 and a JCM800 running into the German 4x12 and 75watt 4x12, boosted with the boutique OD I think.. I knocked it up fairly quickly. Misha's patches use single amp models, usually the recto I think.

That sounds great, those Axe FX are something else!  :D

Cheers Johnny!
Title: Re: Cold Sweats nailing some Hardcore/Metal tones via Axe-FX
Post by: Canadian Steve on April 06, 2009, 09:53:15 PM
Very nice!  What drum program are you using?
Title: Re: Cold Sweats nailing some Hardcore/Metal tones via Axe-FX
Post by: SG Thrasher on April 06, 2009, 10:50:00 PM
Incredible man, you and Bulb are wicked.
Title: Re: Cold Sweats nailing some Hardcore/Metal tones via Axe-FX
Post by: indysmith on April 06, 2009, 10:59:48 PM
Those tones are great! You have an extremely 'sterile' style of playing if you know what I mean?- Super-tight, and sometimes slightly dissonant. It sounds like it's been quantized!
I really like it (and somewhat envy it); good job!
Title: Re: Cold Sweats nailing some Hardcore/Metal tones via Axe-FX
Post by: Nolly on April 06, 2009, 11:05:57 PM
Very nice!  What drum program are you using?

Thanks, this is Superior for the kick and snare, and Superior 2.0 for cymbals and toms.

Incredible man, you and Bulb are wicked.

Thanks dude!

Those tones are great! You have an extremely 'sterile' style of playing if you know what I mean?- Super-tight, and sometimes slightly dissonant. It sounds like it's been quantized!
I really like it (and somewhat envy it); good job!

Cheers mate, not sure I'd describe it as "sterile" but I know exactly what you're getting at. I assure you there's no quantising on the guitars or bass though!
Title: Re: Cold Sweats nailing some Hardcore/Metal tones via Axe-FX
Post by: _tom_ on April 07, 2009, 12:17:42 PM
Sounds great, really nice tone and obviously the playing is awesome. Wish I could afford an AxeFx.
Title: Re: Cold Sweats nailing some Hardcore/Metal tones via Axe-FX
Post by: yellowv on April 08, 2009, 12:41:34 AM
Nolly + Bulb = Epic Win
Title: Re: Cold Sweats nailing some Hardcore/Metal tones via Axe-FX
Post by: Adam.M on April 08, 2009, 01:57:43 AM
Sounds awesome man, added you to my myspace too.


Title: Re: Cold Sweats nailing some Hardcore/Metal tones via Axe-FX
Post by: Nolly on April 09, 2009, 03:59:34 PM
Glad people are liking these clips! :)
There's been another song added to the myspace since I made this thread, called Philistine. Same guitar sound though.
Title: Re: Cold Sweats nailing some Hardcore/Metal tones via Axe-FX
Post by: hunter on April 18, 2009, 04:38:46 PM

Wow, can you PM me the highgain patches you used there? Would love to try them out!
Title: Re: Cold Sweats nailing some Hardcore/Metal tones via Axe-FX
Post by: MDV on April 18, 2009, 04:42:26 PM
Not my thing, but thats a good recording :)
Title: Re: Cold Sweats nailing some Hardcore/Metal tones via Axe-FX
Post by: Nolly on April 18, 2009, 11:54:23 PM

Wow, can you PM me the highgain patches you used there? Would love to try them out!

I have no idea how to transfer the patch to my computer, but I can tell you that it's the VH4 and JCM800 models running through a German 4x12 and a 4x12 T75 cab respectively, with one of the TS808 models driving it.

Not my thing, but thats a good recording :)

Fair enough, thanks!
Title: Re: Cold Sweats nailing some Hardcore/Metal tones via Axe-FX
Post by: Dr. Vic on April 23, 2009, 06:46:04 PM
This sound really kicks bad asses, and the drums are great too !!!

Love it !

Congratulations

what tuning and string gauge are you using to get that wicked sound ? 
Title: Re: Cold Sweats nailing some Hardcore/Metal tones via Axe-FX
Post by: Nolly on April 23, 2009, 07:51:51 PM
Thank you mate, the guitar had (fairly old) D'addario 10-52s on, and was tuned to drop C.
Title: Re: Cold Sweats nailing some Hardcore/Metal tones via Axe-FX
Post by: sebby123 on April 24, 2009, 02:13:50 AM
Have you ever thought to try 11-52's?
The 10's feel like rubber bands to me now
Title: Re: Cold Sweats nailing some Hardcore/Metal tones via Axe-FX
Post by: cnotold on April 24, 2009, 02:32:31 AM
holy shite.. this clip blew my mind away  :shock: awesome dude!
Title: Re: Cold Sweats nailing some Hardcore/Metal tones via Axe-FX
Post by: Nolly on April 24, 2009, 02:51:29 AM
Have you ever thought to try 11-52's?
The 10's feel like rubber bands to me now

Yeah, Misha definitely goes for a lighter tension than I do, but it's a big part of his sound, and fwiw, light strings picked lightly will sound just as huge as big strings picked hard when recorded, perhaps even huger as a result of the richer harmonic overtones you get.
I use the same 10-52 gauges a whole step higher, in E standard and drop D. Even with the tuning dropped to compensate, I simply don't like the feeling of unwound strings much bigger than 10s. I'd rather deal with floppy thinner strings.

holy shitee.. this clip blew my mind away  :shock: awesome dude!

Glad you liked it!
Title: Re: Cold Sweats nailing some Hardcore/Metal tones via Axe-FX
Post by: Gooby on April 24, 2009, 10:09:31 AM
That was nothing like listening to clips from a forum.
I really liked all of that - totally outstanding my good man.

Martin  8)
Title: Re: Cold Sweats nailing some Hardcore/Metal tones via Axe-FX
Post by: Nolly on April 26, 2009, 12:55:40 AM
That was nothing like listening to clips from a forum.
I really liked all of that - totally outstanding my good man.

Martin  8)

Nice one, cheers Martin!
Somehow I read your screen name as "Goody", possibly a remnant of the horror of seeing that the late Jade is having a musical made about her.
Title: Re: Cold Sweats nailing some Hardcore/Metal tones via Axe-FX
Post by: Gooby on April 26, 2009, 02:26:21 PM
Gooby is from my love of Sponge bob lol Goober was gone

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRIaNlGGvxc

'Jade goody the Musical' (quick pass a bucket) Yes I saw that news item. I agree with Parkinson, she is everything thats wrong with modern British culture. A vile racist who contributed nothing except the death of brain cells across the UK every time she opened her gob.

On a lighter note at my advanced age lol, I am checking out Sikth, Meshuggah etc on the back of listening to your clips Nolly. I hope you get a good singer soon you deserve it m8.

Martin
Title: Re: Cold Sweats nailing some Hardcore/Metal tones via Axe-FX
Post by: Roobubba on April 27, 2009, 10:54:58 PM
I salute you.

Superb work!!!

No teles in sight I hope :)


Roo
Title: Re: Cold Sweats nailing some Hardcore/Metal tones via Axe-FX
Post by: Nolly on April 27, 2009, 11:15:17 PM
Gooby is from my love of Sponge bob lol Goober was gone

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRIaNlGGvxc

'Jade goody the Musical' (quick pass a bucket) Yes I saw that news item. I agree with Parkinson, she is everything thats wrong with modern British culture. A vile racist who contributed nothing except the death of brain cells across the UK every time she opened her gob.

On a lighter note at my advanced age lol, I am checking out Sikth, Meshuggah etc on the back of listening to your clips Nolly. I hope you get a good singer soon you deserve it m8.

Martin

Awesome Martin, if you want more music recommendations then just ask!
Also, spot-on description by Parky.

I salute you.

Superb work!!!

No teles in sight I hope :)


Roo

Nice one, cheers!