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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: hunter on April 05, 2009, 12:37:12 PM
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Allrighty, arrived there Friday night with my missus, we had nice dinner and stayed in a nice place, just 15min walk from the Messe, 5min from shopping for the missus. I went there to be right from the start.
First, Musikmesse is HUGE. I was only able to check Pickup instruments (gtr/bs) and a little bit of software. Drums, strings, wind, keys, PA, studio, all I had no time for, it's just way too big!
Second, I didn't see any economic crisis. Booths were big, people were plenty, a lot of interest was there. Not sure if it reflects in the order books of the exhibitors, but as a visitor, I couldn't see any recession.
Let me show you some of my personal highlights, ALL PICS HERE: http://picasaweb.google.com/jaeger28/MusikMesse2009 (http://picasaweb.google.com/jaeger28/MusikMesse2009)
I had a great chat with Bruce Egnater, around 20min. He also gave me some insights in his plans and there is some interesting stuff to come. Then I played the Renegade 50, and I have to say, this amp is just amazing! It's a great deal for the buck and I am looking forward to getting one as soon as they are available! The Renegade 50 is going to be the hit of 2009!!
(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_PFQQn2dQZZY/Sdhj9EVXJ2I/AAAAAAAAADw/UWTFotDpMzs/s720/DSC02979.JPG)
I never before heard about http://www.cicognaniamps.com but gotta say, their little Brutus Live (2x single ended class A toaster style amp with 5 sounds) is amazing, from clean to crunch to lead. These have been around for a while and I am surprised noone talks about them. Check the vids on their site!
(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_PFQQn2dQZZY/SdhmZJYfB8I/AAAAAAAAAHk/jgOdxIaJK8I/s720/DSC03062.JPG)
Nice are those Fame guitars (house brand of Musicstore Cologne):
(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_PFQQn2dQZZY/SdhiYMjnHyI/AAAAAAAAABo/FynaPH7CDQw/s512/DSC02927.JPG)
Fender CS Tele with Filtertrons, for Twinfan (but they only had one):
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_PFQQn2dQZZY/Sdhifr5wJAI/AAAAAAAAAB0/6FyDd7R6qsI/s512/DSC02935.JPG)
This amp sounded quite good actually (many more to follow):
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Look at this Huge Koch:
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Nik Huber guitars - Pure Sex:
(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_PFQQn2dQZZY/SdhixmzBXPI/AAAAAAAAACQ/viy-Tq0xflY/s720/DSC02942.JPG)
Some nice new ESPs (also they have a series of Firebirds now):
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I was quite a bit in this box, all these Bugeras sound really great!!
(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_PFQQn2dQZZY/Sdhjbn11nTI/AAAAAAAAADA/EuJWAvThC8s/s720/DSC02954.JPG)
(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_PFQQn2dQZZY/SdhkcxZopJI/AAAAAAAAAEk/c1ok9nMMEQA/s512/DSC02996.JPG)
Hayden have their Toaster now as well:
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_PFQQn2dQZZY/SdhjeedoiCI/AAAAAAAAADE/AWXGs8q-vEM/s720/DSC02963.JPG)
The world needs more amps!
(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_PFQQn2dQZZY/SdhjmYbKvyI/AAAAAAAAADQ/Nd4o6HzSd88/s720/DSC02969.JPG)
And more amps
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Black Engl Fireball 100W. Cool looks, mean tones.
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_PFQQn2dQZZY/SdhkAc1IjdI/AAAAAAAAAD0/y3US28U_UT8/s720/DSC02980.JPG)
I WANT that TYLER!
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_PFQQn2dQZZY/SdhkGN2MklI/AAAAAAAAAD8/SJqln-O85jk/s720/DSC02983.JPG)
Nice idea for a tilt 2x12
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_PFQQn2dQZZY/SdhkLTwMurI/AAAAAAAAAEI/uf971pbYUXw/s800/DSC02985.JPG)
He was there too, poor guy had to smile and sign stuff for hours:
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This sounded very nice indeed. And the buttons on this thing are HUGE:
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_PFQQn2dQZZY/SdhkqofqdfI/AAAAAAAAAE4/dQM7WXxGvCI/s720/DSC03005.JPG)
More amps
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_PFQQn2dQZZY/Sdhkto_MF3I/AAAAAAAAAE8/4X9LRlD4zv8/s720/DSC03006.JPG)
If this is not pretty, what is?
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_PFQQn2dQZZY/Sdhk2cNdGzI/AAAAAAAAAFI/8jKNBygnyFE/s912/DSC03011.JPG)
Buy tone wood!
(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_PFQQn2dQZZY/Sdhk-6YMwWI/AAAAAAAAAFY/C0X-mx4zeno/s720/DSC03016.JPG)
New nitro Smokeburst is NICE
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_PFQQn2dQZZY/SdhlJxHBEOI/AAAAAAAAAFo/rpfUXxzQrHQ/s512/DSC03023.JPG)
Made by Paul Himself
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_PFQQn2dQZZY/SdhlM67ewgI/AAAAAAAAAFs/2IfwjDU5PFc/s512/DSC03024.JPG)
This guy has put 2 Marshall 4x12s in a rotary, it turns at 120 RPM, sounded really cool, no compromise!!!
I forgot to ask how he does it with the cables ...?
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_PFQQn2dQZZY/SdhlVf8rq_I/AAAAAAAAAF4/Vc4m6bzuDVQ/s720/DSC03030.JPG)
Gotta love German made Tausch Guitars
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_PFQQn2dQZZY/SdhlY9kqXOI/AAAAAAAAAGA/z20FAJLJNoE/s512/DSC03032.JPG)
I NEED one of these:
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_PFQQn2dQZZY/Sdhlp_8nSwI/AAAAAAAAAGY/cMYBp40X030/s512/DSC03038.JPG)
More amps
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_PFQQn2dQZZY/Sdhl11kl6II/AAAAAAAAAGw/nAFzbEmW6hs/s720/DSC03046.JPG)
This is NOT a furniture shop
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_PFQQn2dQZZY/Sdhl4Rj_EXI/AAAAAAAAAG0/6XgwJLsLSZ4/s512/DSC03047.JPG)
Remarkable tones from the Mad Professor. Although it was not very loud, I could hear it everywhere in the hall, really remarkable how it filled the place with tone!!!!
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_PFQQn2dQZZY/SdhmHjsw0ZI/AAAAAAAAAHM/z8Ai5-Ecczc/s512/DSC03054.JPG)
More amps
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_PFQQn2dQZZY/SdhmN5XygaI/AAAAAAAAAHU/SoawJnSTZyQ/s512/DSC03057.JPG)
Thomas Blug is the man. His tone and feel is just amazing!!!!!!
(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_PFQQn2dQZZY/Sdhmd5bI4_I/AAAAAAAAAHs/3XCPQrXGA3I/s720/DSC03071.JPG)
Melodyne is the most amazing software ever. Did you know it can split guitar chords from audio in their single notes and you can change em afterwards?
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_PFQQn2dQZZY/Sdhmlsyw2UI/AAAAAAAAAH8/jfoaA-YcrSI/s720/DSC03077.JPG)
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am i right in thinking Bugera is the (owned by) Behringer line of cloned amps?
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am i right in thinking Bugera is the (owned by) Behringer line of cloned amps?
Yes
And hooray for Blug! Woooo!
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For some reason I don't see the pretty picture (though I do see the intersting Bugera girl (you don't get that at NAMM - the best was when we had the Hooters girls on the stand one day).
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Fender CS Tele with Filtertrons, for Twinfan (but they only had one):
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_PFQQn2dQZZY/Sdhifr5wJAI/AAAAAAAAAB0/6FyDd7R6qsI/s512/DSC02935.JPG)
Tasty! I like! Very Billy Gibbons :)
I think my Warmouth build will be very similar for around 1/3rd of the price.......
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Good stuff Hunter, nice photos in there. I'm pretty sure there was a thread a while ago about the Melodyne stuff. Very impressive but no substitute for playing guitar though IMO!
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Great photos Hunter, thanks for posting them. Isn't there a huge amount of amps around now, so was the Egnator the one that impressed you most?
That pair of full stack Kochs looks good!
I remember reading about the Melodyne software in here after Ben posted it. It must be amazing to use. Did you watch a demo?
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The Hubers look great, but is he concentrating on the LP shape now? I preferred his more Tele-like original shape (well, maybe not preferred, but at least it was unique to Huber).
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nice nice nice....
care to share the high-res of this one?
(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_PFQQn2dQZZY/SdhkcxZopJI/AAAAAAAAAEk/c1ok9nMMEQA/s512/DSC02996.JPG)
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Great set of pictures there Hunter- thanks for the post.
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am i right in thinking Bugera is the (owned by) Behringer line of cloned amps?
Yes
And hooray for Blug! Woooo!
NO
they're just distributed worldwide by Behringer
and yes, they're ALMOST clones, but they sound indeed very different from the originals, i think they play mostly on name similarities... the 6260 doesn't sound for sure like the 5150, it just belongs to the same raw sounding hi-gain amps family, and looks similar.
people usually pay obscene amounts of money for clone... er... boutique amps, usually...
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people usually pay obscene amounts of money for clone... er... boutique amps, usually...
Not always though, it depends where you shop ;)
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excellent, that looks awesome :)
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Thanks for letting us in on your little trip, Hunter !!
Seems like everyone wants to be an amp-builder ! That means a lot of competition, and a hard life for them I suspect.
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What a nice post, hunter. I can only join the rank of thanks sayers.
What amps and guitars impressed you the most and why? I would like to hear more about that.
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What a nice post, hunter. I can only join the rank of thanks sayers.
What amps and guitars impressed you the most and why? I would like to hear more about that.
The amps that impressed me most were:
Egnater Renegade for being an amazing amp in a total package for relatively low $$. And Bruce Egnater for being the great guy he is - extremely customer oriented and skilled.
This Cicognani Brutus Live because it sounded awesome for a "Toaster" amp. Never heard of them before and they have a load of stuff, a full MIDI controllable tube head too (which I didn't hear).
Bugera because they are so cheap and sound good.
I played the Marshall Haze mini stack but it wasn't really great, it sounded Mini too.
Guitars: PRS was the hit for me. Probably because I just bought one. And I really love the look of some of those ESPs.
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Does ESP make this Hetfield Les Paul now?
Want one!
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_PFQQn2dQZZY/Sdhi7a-RhlI/AAAAAAAAACc/g88JAUsOr8o/s512/DSC02946.JPG)
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Does ESP make this Hetfield Les Paul now?
Want one!
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_PFQQn2dQZZY/Sdhi7a-RhlI/AAAAAAAAACc/g88JAUsOr8o/s512/DSC02946.JPG)
Costs over 10k though..
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Does ESP make this Hetfield Les Paul now?
Want one!
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_PFQQn2dQZZY/Sdhi7a-RhlI/AAAAAAAAACc/g88JAUsOr8o/s512/DSC02946.JPG)
Costs over 10k though..
are you sure? the "old" hetfield signature costed about 3000$...
nice guitar, though, even if hetfield doesn't mean anything AT ALL to me. i can't tell for sure case the picture looks quite blurry, but i'd say that anyway i prefer the blonde behind it... ;)
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Does ESP make this Hetfield Les Paul now?
Want one!
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_PFQQn2dQZZY/Sdhi7a-RhlI/AAAAAAAAACc/g88JAUsOr8o/s512/DSC02946.JPG)
Costs over 10k though..
are you sure? the "old" hetfield signature costed about 3000$...
nice guitar, though, even if hetfield doesn't mean anything AT ALL to me. i can't tell for sure case the picture looks quite blurry, but i'd say that anyway i prefer the blonde behind it... ;)
"The ESP Iron Cross has a street price of $9999.00"
Ok, so I was wrong, but it's still pricey.
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And Bruce Egnater for being the great guy he is - extremely customer oriented and skilled.
It's the impression I always get from watching clips of Bruce
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9999$? they're completely crazy.
i can buy an iron cross from one of the many shops full of nazi souvenirs and glue it to my eclipse... a couple of hammer strokes on the top and i've got a perfect replica! :P
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Any word on those 3120s? They look damned nice!
Roo
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Any word on those 3120s? They look damned nice!
Roo
they look awesome, and i bet they sound at least good too... layout is very similar to JSX and XXX models, but it looks definitely better.
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I never before heard about http://www.cicognaniamps.com but gotta say, their little Brutus Live (2x single ended class A toaster style amp with 5 sounds) is amazing, from clean to crunch to lead. These have been around for a while and I am surprised noone talks about them. Check the vids on their site!
(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_PFQQn2dQZZY/SdhmZJYfB8I/AAAAAAAAAHk/jgOdxIaJK8I/s720/DSC03062.JPG)
Brilliant/hysterical video clip of the Brutus here
I'm both impressed and laughing out loud at the guy demonstarting it(donato begotti) - such enthusiasm!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvKlWxBi2f8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvKlWxBi2f8)
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I never before heard about http://www.cicognaniamps.com but gotta say, their little Brutus Live (2x single ended class A toaster style amp with 5 sounds) is amazing, from clean to crunch to lead. These have been around for a while and I am surprised noone talks about them. Check the vids on their site!
(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_PFQQn2dQZZY/SdhmZJYfB8I/AAAAAAAAAHk/jgOdxIaJK8I/s720/DSC03062.JPG)
Brilliant/hysterical video clip of the Brutus here
I'm both impressed and laughing out loud at the guy demonstarting it(donato begotti) - such enthusiasm!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvKlWxBi2f8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvKlWxBi2f8)
Yeah the guy is amazing. He's also been the one demonstrating in Frankfurt, and he is really like that. Either he enjoys the amp so much, or he just enjoys himself so much :O)