Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: TheDev01dOne on April 12, 2009, 04:54:31 AM
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Not posted for ages, I've been off around Europe for a while. Got chicken pox now though so I'm stuck at home quarantining so I've been playing my 7 string and I broke a string now I'm finding it a hassle to find any decent solutions as to how I get a good 7string acoustic set.
Found one option of Newtone strings in derby that handwind round-wound strings and cr@p and make custom sets and been thinking about getting a few sets made up to try it out but its minimum order of 6 sets so if I hate them I'll have wasted loads of money. Just wondering if anyone's used any of their strings or more specifically their acoustic strings?
I play Elixers 80/20 on my 6 strings and I prefer that snappier tone.
Or.. Does anyone have any other suggestions as to how I'd make up a 7 string acoustic set at a reasonable price. I want 11s for E to e and probably a 70 for the low B.
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I tried Newtones a while ago - from what I remember they were the best strings I've played... I don't know why I don't have them on my guitars now...
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Newtone are awesome. Give them a call, they're most helpful, very much like the BKP of strings as it were.
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that good, eh? Might have to try some of those :)
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i sent an email for a few custom sets and some bass strings
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Gonna order a set :D
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Yeah, they're honestly that great. They also work out cheaper than D'addarios or EBs :)
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They also work out cheaper than D'addarios or EBs :)
Not from Strings Direct they don't (just looked), but they are not that much more expensive either (about 50p per pack more)
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They also work out cheaper than D'addarios or EBs :)
Not from Strings Direct they don't (just looked), but they are not that much more expensive either (about 50p per pack more)
Sorry, that was meant to be cheaper than shop price. :oops:
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which ones do you use, nolly? there were a couple of different types on the strings direct site.
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which ones do you use, nolly? there were a couple of different types on the strings direct site.
I'm using custom sets of hex-core 9-48s on my Nathan Sheppard, which I guess makes them Nickel Masters. Also, I used Newtones on the Blackmachine F8 while I had it - Doug designed a set specifically for the instrument with Newtone, but I have no idea what the specs were other than being 9-84.
I really need to get some 10-52s to use on my metal guitars, will order some later I think.
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do they do 14s?
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which ones do you use, nolly? there were a couple of different types on the strings direct site.
I'm using custom sets of hex-core 9-48s on my Nathan Sheppard, which I guess makes them Nickel Masters. Also, I used Newtones on the Blackmachine F8 while I had it - Doug designed a set specifically for the instrument with Newtone, but I have no idea what the specs were other than being 9-84.
I really need to get some 10-52s to use on my metal guitars, will order some later I think.
84?! Christ allmighty.
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do they do 14s?
They'll do anything you want :)
which ones do you use, nolly? there were a couple of different types on the strings direct site.
I'm using custom sets of hex-core 9-48s on my Nathan Sheppard, which I guess makes them Nickel Masters. Also, I used Newtones on the Blackmachine F8 while I had it - Doug designed a set specifically for the instrument with Newtone, but I have no idea what the specs were other than being 9-84.
I really need to get some 10-52s to use on my metal guitars, will order some later I think.
84?! Christ allmighty.
That's the lighter set as well, there's also a 10-86 set if you want to downtune.
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I'm using custom sets of hex-core 9-48s on my Nathan Sheppard, which I guess makes them Nickel Masters. Also, I used Newtones on the Blackmachine F8 while I had it - Doug designed a set specifically for the instrument with Newtone, but I have no idea what the specs were other than being 9-84.
I really need to get some 10-52s to use on my metal guitars, will order some later I think.
excellent, thanks :)
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what makes these so good compared to say d'addario?
string is just string to me these days
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yeah , and i still get asked almost every other day what makes my guitars worth more than an £80 one from argos.... and why do i need so many
guitars are just guitars according to a lot of people
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what makes these so good compared to say d'addario?
string is just string to me these days
Strings make a biiig difference to your guitar's sound. Even two wound strings with the same overall gauge can sound completely different as the core shape, and core-to-wrap ratio can vary widely from brand to brand. Also, certain brands provide much more consistency - for example, I actually quite like the feel of Ernie Balls, but from one pack to the next they can sound wildly different and also need re-intonation. DRs and D'addarios are much more consistent, and each have a specific feel and sound.
Newtones are great because through talking to them as well as trial and error, you can spec out a set that is exactly as you'd like it, including core-to-wrap ratios (for example, my 9-48 sets have an extra thick core on the 48 so that its tension is actually higher than its overall gauge may suggest, meaning it holds up to detuning well), and core shape (choosing between round-core and hex-core, which have quite different tonal properties and feels). They are also fantastically consistent from pack to pack.
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yeah , and i still get asked almost every other day what makes my guitars worth more than an £80 one from argos.... and why do i need so many
guitars are just guitars according to a lot of people
:lol:
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Newtones are great because through talking to them as well as trial and error, you can spec out a set that is exactly as you'd like it, including core-to-wrap ratios (for example, my 9-48 sets have an extra thick core on the 48 so that its tension is actually higher than its overall gauge may suggest, meaning it holds up to detuning well), and core shape (choosing between round-core and hex-core, which have quite different tonal properties and feels). They are also fantastically consistent from pack to pack.
erm what's the advantage of a thicker core over just getting thicker string?
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Newtones are great because through talking to them as well as trial and error, you can spec out a set that is exactly as you'd like it, including core-to-wrap ratios (for example, my 9-48 sets have an extra thick core on the 48 so that its tension is actually higher than its overall gauge may suggest, meaning it holds up to detuning well), and core shape (choosing between round-core and hex-core, which have quite different tonal properties and feels). They are also fantastically consistent from pack to pack.
erm what's the advantage of a thicker core over just getting thicker string?
Sounds different - in my experience this way gets you the tension without the dulling of tone that you get with fatter strings.
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I have a set of them on my acoustic and they still sound great even though I put them on ages ago. Probably the best strings I've used, at least for acoustic guitar.
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Thanks for all the replies guys, glad to hear some good reviews. Will be sending them off some money for a trial set today.
TBH I don't really get all the 'wrap to core ratio' jargon and stuff at all but I can tell what I like and what I don't so hopefully it'll turn out good.
My chickenpox are going away now though so by the time I get the strings I'll have no time to play guitar again.
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Ordered some. Very accomodating chap on the phone. Got some thicker-cored 12, 15, 20, 32, 42, 55 to replace, but hopefully give the same tension as my 12, 15, 20, 36, 48, 64 (though I said 62 cos I just changed to 64, but hopefully its in the ball park and if it all shows promise I can refine my next order).
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let us know what you think MDV, I need to order new string but I want to uptune my wounds a bit and see how the extra tensions affects legato, mostly pinky to index finger hammer ons and pull offs cos I noticed they really suck the other day
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Will do. It'll be a couple of weeks though.
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Just out of interest- what's the difference between the nickel masters and the electric masters? :)
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Sue's just ordered a set of the Phospher Bronze for the acoustic. You'd better be right Nolly! :snipe:
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Just out of interest- what's the difference between the nickel masters and the electric masters? :)
$%&# knows.
The guy on the phone told me they do a round cored and a hex cored - maybe its that?
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Oooooo I hope they can do a tighter bass string - 160 aint enough for A#
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^ ^ yeah, that's what i was thinking, mark... what difference does that make? :lol:
i was just wondering if one set was maybe pure nickel wraps while the other was perhaps nickel-plated... could be way off, there, though. :?
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Sue's just ordered a set of the Phospher Bronze for the acoustic. You'd better be right Nolly! :snipe:
The acoustic ones I'd really like to try are the Heritage series (I think those are the ones anyway) that are even tension across all the strings. Could be very interesting.
^ ^ yeah, that's what i was thinking, mark... what difference does that make? :lol
It's a fairly large difference, but one that's far easier to hear and feel than describe in words. In my experience, round-cores tend to be warmer and "rounder" ( :lol:) sounding, whereas the hex-cores are brighter and have much more attack, and also feel tighter.
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i think a simple advantage with round cores is that there is much less empty space inside a string, that alone is going to prevent gunk build up and keep strings fresher for longer
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well i just ordered a few different sets to give them a go.
i went with:
.010 - .049 nickel masters
.011 - 0.52 nickel masters (i thought those two sets were worth trying on the multiscale 6's)
.012 - 0.54 nickel masters (for a 25.5" scale lapsteel)
.010 - .046 electric masters (2 sets of those)
.040 - .100 Platinum bass series with round cores
i thought that was a good selection from the range to start with
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thanks nolly and wez. I'll keep that in mind, will probably order some in the next day or two (though when i get round to fitting them is anyone's guess :lol: ).
When you said that the hexcores feel a bit tighter, nolly, do you mean the tension, or the tone? :)
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thanks nolly and wez. I'll keep that in mind, will probably order some in the next day or two (though when i get round to fitting them is anyone's guess :lol: ).
When you said that the hexcores feel a bit tighter, nolly, do you mean the tension, or the tone? :)
I mean the tension - they tend to feel stiffer in my experience.
Hope you like 'em!
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thanks nolly and wez. I'll keep that in mind, will probably order some in the next day or two (though when i get round to fitting them is anyone's guess :lol: ).
When you said that the hexcores feel a bit tighter, nolly, do you mean the tension, or the tone? :)
I mean the tension - they tend to feel stiffer in my experience.
Hope you like 'em!
Apparently hex core strings reach a given pitch at a higher tension than round cores, therefore feel tighter... because they are :)
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My Epiphone LP std is going in for a fret dress, new nut and setup and will have new strings fitted, what would folks suggest I should ask for string wise as a beginner for ease of play till my LH finger tips harden (they are a lot tougher than last week already).
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So you can only get 6 sets at a time? Might go two's on an order with my mate, i'm really interested in some of these for my acoustic.
Newtone: The new Cleartone.
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So you can only get 6 sets at a time? Might go two's on an order with my mate, i'm really interested in some of these for my acoustic.
Newtone: The new Cleartone.
Lets not go that far quite yet. Most of us havent heard them, and arent raving about them.
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But I need some more cleartones, thanks for reminding me!
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well I've up tuned my strings from C to D standard, decided to block the trem with a square battery because I didn't want to balance the bridge and even though the strings are pretty much dead there is certainly an improvement in tone, not sure if it's the battery block trick or the extra tension or both
now I can't decide which strings I want! how do you guys pick a set???
using a guitar tension calculator I tend to have all the wound as similar tension, and then all the plain steels are similar too but lighter than the wounds, is having a more gradual change between the plains and wounds a good idea or not?
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thanks nolly and wez. I'll keep that in mind, will probably order some in the next day or two (though when i get round to fitting them is anyone's guess :lol: ).
When you said that the hexcores feel a bit tighter, nolly, do you mean the tension, or the tone? :)
I mean the tension - they tend to feel stiffer in my experience.
Hope you like 'em!
thanks :D
So you can only get 6 sets at a time? Might go two's on an order with my mate, i'm really interested in some of these for my acoustic.
Newtone: The new Cleartone.
you can order them in single sets from stringsdirect, baz. assuming you want "standard" string gauges.
But I need some more cleartones, thanks for reminding me!
someone on the musicradar linked to another company which was making cables with the same specs as the cleartones for a little less money- not as much choice in sizes though (though i think you can contact them for custom-length cables). just to let you know. if you're interested I'll see if i can find the link for you.
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Nah, cleartone are fine. I know where I'm at with them.
JDC - guesswork, differences in net cross sectional surface area and trial and error.
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Nah, cleartone are fine. I know where I'm at with them.
that's pretty much what i decided too, the saving was pretty small. Not that I need any at the moment anyway...
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Just put some Nickel Masters (Hex Core) .010 - .046 on my Baja Tele (sorry Roo), got them from Strings Direct.
Tone balance across the strings seems good as does the general quality. The strings came to pitch quickly and tuning stability seems improved. Initial tone is good without the over-brightness that I dislike with most new string. Now to see if they age well.
I'm all for supporting small UK business, so this might just be my new string of choice.
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Well, my newtones should be waiting for me at home right now, or be there tomorrow.
We'll see how they fare.
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How long did they take to arrive MDV? I can't
keep get the rusted Roto's in tune with my Kahler any more. Also waiting on some fecking SOB's... but... nevermind on that.
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Tough to say. I ordered a custom set (well, 4) with the requiments of matching the tension of 36, 48, 64 with thinner strings (by having a thicker core) - the dude suggested 32, 42, 55 (or something round there) and said that they'd take "a couple of weeks because its development work" - its been about 3 weeks and I have no idea what it would have been if it werent "Development work", if thats not just smokescreening.
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I'll email. Both my guitars really need new strings. Thanks MDV
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Lead time is normally 21 days or thereabouts according to them.
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Boooo! I almost dont want to like them; I'll have to plan string orders! Thats madness.
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Thank you for contacting us the longest you may have to wait is around 14 days. But we are always making these I don’t think there would be anything like that . We never have stock such is the demand but the upside of this is what you get is brand new not a few months old, as to payment card or pay pal is accepted . I await further instruction from you.
From Newtone. Not as bad as 3 weeks, but there is always postage delay
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They're here.
Performance update to follow.
- they await further instructions? What is he, the string-bot?
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Well, these are odd.
They sound a lot thicker in the mids and low mids than the Diadarrios, they have less chime in the highs, they're more saturated - I've had to drop my gain a bit -, they grip a pick more, the set I got is actually a bit slacker than the diadarios that I've been using, but not much (good guess Mr string man) and is in fact tighter sounding.
They have done what I wanted - put high end back in without losing low end (they have more, but its probably just from the extra energy from being slacker but hitting them as hard)
The plain strings are fatter and thicker too. I'm getting more definition in the middle notes in sweeps, where previously it was quite hard to get them to sound evenly with the legatos/picking flourishes on the first and last strings (as is my sweeping idiom), and the sound on all strings is much smoother (comparing to 2 week old but nearly unplayed diadarios on my dean).
Overall they did what I wanted to, but there were a lot of tonal surprises with them. They sound very different to any previous string I've used. Closest comparison is DR Tite fits, but they didnt have the depth in the low end or the smoothness and clarity in the highs. First impressions are very good indeed.
I'll be upping the guages very slightly with my next order and getting more :)
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oooh, hopefully mine will be here soon!!
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Oh thats the hex core nickel wound ones, btw. I got 4 sets of 12, 15, 20p, 32, 42, 55 - two round cored and two hex cored. Havent tried the round cored yet.
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Well, these are odd.
They sound a lot thicker in the mids and low mids than the Diadarrios, they have less chime in the highs, they're more saturated - I've had to drop my gain a bit -, they grip a pick more, the set I got is actually a bit slacker than the diadarios that I've been using, but not much (good guess Mr string man) and is in fact tighter sounding.
They have done what I wanted - put high end back in without losing low end (they have more, but its probably just from the extra energy from being slacker but hitting them as hard)
The plain strings are fatter and thicker too. I'm getting more definition in the middle notes in sweeps, where previously it was quite hard to get them to sound evenly with the legatos/picking flourishes on the first and last strings (as is my sweeping idiom), and the sound on all strings is much smoother (comparing to 2 week old but nearly unplayed diadarios on my dean).
Overall they did what I wanted to, but there were a lot of tonal surprises with them. They sound very different to any previous string I've used. Closest comparison is DR Tite fits, but they didnt have the depth in the low end or the smoothness and clarity in the highs. First impressions are very good indeed.
I'll be upping the guages very slightly with my next order and getting more :)
Good to hear you're liking them
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The rumours of Newtones customer service standards were not exagerated.
I got the 4 test sets, and while I like them a lot they need some refinment - I want just a bit more tension.
So I just called planning to make an order for a slightly higher set of guages on the wound strings, meeting their 6 order minimum figuring that given how much I like what I have, what I'm gonna get cant be too far off and I can probably live with any slight niggle in tension or tone or whatever and revise the next order accordingly.
But the dude on the phone, after I told him that I'd be meeting the 6 set min order, said he'd send out a single free set of 12 15 20 32 44 58 hex cored (I like the hex core sound best) to see if I liked them, and to go from there.
Between the improvment in tone, the flexibility in whats available and this level of service I do believe I've found my strings.
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i have a parcel at the post office... i hope its these!!
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Oh thats the hex core nickel wound ones, btw. I got 4 sets of 12, 15, 20p, 32, 42, 55 - two round cored and two hex cored. Havent tried the round cored yet.
Tuned to what?
I'm in C and I currently use 13, 17, 26, 36, 46, 59 D'addario nickle wounds and still don't have the tension I'd like on the low C nor the brightness or clarity I'd like.
Maybe I'll give these cats a ring, though compared to what I normally pay for strings, they're gonna cost me a fortune :(
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Oh thats the hex core nickel wound ones, btw. I got 4 sets of 12, 15, 20p, 32, 42, 55 - two round cored and two hex cored. Havent tried the round cored yet.
Tuned to what?
I'm in C and I currently use 13, 17, 26, 36, 46, 59 D'addario nickle wounds and still don't have the tension I'd like on the low C nor the brightness or clarity I'd like.
Maybe I'll give these cats a ring, though compared to what I normally pay for strings, they're gonna cost me a fortune :(
C/Drop A#
Was on 12 15 20 32 48 64, so the wound sides not gonna be too far off for you. The set that I got would probably be OK for you.
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Cool, I'll ring them come pay day and see what's what. Cheers.
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Cool, I'll ring them come pay day and see what's what. Cheers.
Yer welcome.
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Oh thats the hex core nickel wound ones, btw. I got 4 sets of 12, 15, 20p, 32, 42, 55 - two round cored and two hex cored. Havent tried the round cored yet.
Tuned to what?
I'm in C and I currently use 13, 17, 26, 36, 46, 59 D'addario nickle wounds and still don't have the tension I'd like on the low C nor the brightness or clarity I'd like.
Maybe I'll give these cats a ring, though compared to what I normally pay for strings, they're gonna cost me a fortune :(
C/Drop A#
Was on 12 15 20 32 48 64, so the wound sides not gonna be too far off for you. The set that I got would probably be OK for you.
your 48 makes no sense to me unless you switch between drop A# and C all the time
using my favourite tension calculator, the tensions should be something like
len 25.5"
C .012" PL == 6.67kg
G, .015" PL == 5.85kg
^D, .020" pl == 6.55kg
^A,, .032" nw == 8.03kg
F,, .048" nw == 9.64kg
^A,,, .064" nw == 7.78kg
total == 44.53kg
ok I dunno how exact these figures are and whatever works and feels right for you, a .064" in C is 11kgs of tension though!!! personally I tune to C standard with 11, 15, 18, 32, 44, 59
are these newtones easier to play or is it just a tone thing? I'm guessing there is less pick scratch since the winds are finer
nfe how do you bend 13s?!!!!
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Oh thats the hex core nickel wound ones, btw. I got 4 sets of 12, 15, 20p, 32, 42, 55 - two round cored and two hex cored. Havent tried the round cored yet.
Tuned to what?
I'm in C and I currently use 13, 17, 26, 36, 46, 59 D'addario nickle wounds and still don't have the tension I'd like on the low C nor the brightness or clarity I'd like.
Maybe I'll give these cats a ring, though compared to what I normally pay for strings, they're gonna cost me a fortune :(
C/Drop A#
Was on 12 15 20 32 48 64, so the wound sides not gonna be too far off for you. The set that I got would probably be OK for you.
your 48 makes no sense to me, using my favourite tension calculator, the tensions should be something like
len 25.5"
C .012" PL == 6.67kg
G, .015" PL == 5.85kg
^D, .020" pl == 6.55kg
^A,, .032" nw == 8.03kg
F,, .048" nw == 9.64kg
^A,,, .064" nw == 7.78kg
total == 44.53kg
ok I dunno how exact these figures are and whatever works and feels right for you, personally I tune to C standard with 11, 15, 18, 32, 44, 59
are these newtones easier to play or is it just a tone thing? I'm guessing there is less pick scratch since the winds are finer
nfe how do you bend 13s?!!!!
With man's fingers 8)
Nah, I dunno :lol:, I don't find it an issue, but I've always played with pretty heavy strings even in standard tuning. the 26w took a bit getting used to on the G when I first started using them though. Not a big issue now, but I did find myself bending flat a lot when I was playing "tried and tested" licks to start with, y'know?
I find in that tuning if I play with thinner unwound strings I end up with sweeps being sloppy as hell and bend a fourth if I'm not paying attention :lol:
I've emailed Newtone so we'll see what they recommend and hopefully I can get away with a bit thinner so I can get some extra sparkle.
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Oh thats the hex core nickel wound ones, btw. I got 4 sets of 12, 15, 20p, 32, 42, 55 - two round cored and two hex cored. Havent tried the round cored yet.
Tuned to what?
I'm in C and I currently use 13, 17, 26, 36, 46, 59 D'addario nickle wounds and still don't have the tension I'd like on the low C nor the brightness or clarity I'd like.
Maybe I'll give these cats a ring, though compared to what I normally pay for strings, they're gonna cost me a fortune :(
C/Drop A#
Was on 12 15 20 32 48 64, so the wound sides not gonna be too far off for you. The set that I got would probably be OK for you.
your 48 makes no sense to me unless you switch between drop A# and C all the time
using my favourite tension calculator, the tensions should be something like
len 25.5"
C .012" PL == 6.67kg
G, .015" PL == 5.85kg
^D, .020" pl == 6.55kg
^A,, .032" nw == 8.03kg
F,, .048" nw == 9.64kg
^A,,, .064" nw == 7.78kg
total == 44.53kg
ok I dunno how exact these figures are and whatever works and feels right for you, a .064" in C is 11kgs of tension though!!! personally I tune to C standard with 11, 15, 18, 32, 44, 59
are these newtones easier to play or is it just a tone thing? I'm guessing there is less pick scratch since the winds are finer
nfe how do you bend 13s?!!!!
Dont care what youre calculator said - it felt right. Sort of. And yes, a 64 in C is pretty tight.
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Oh, and they're easier to play than the heavier guage. Theyre slacker though. But being smaller also helps the playability, I think.
Theres more pick attack to them - the string grips the pick better than the diaddarios, they carry higher frequencies better, I'm not sure the diameter of the wind has anything to do with pick attack (doubly so since theres plenty of pick attack to plain strings), and they dont have the boominess in the lows overpowering everything that the really big diaddarios did. (but havent lost anything, or very much at least, in low end magnitude, its just less boomy).
One odd thing - the 55 in my newtone sets are narrower than the 48s in my diaddario sets. Dunno whats going on there.
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I worked out the tension for C# not C doh!!! so a 0.064" in C is 9.8kg of tension not 11kg, makes a lot more sense now!
pretty much the same as me up tuning a semitone, it just looks more as a figure than by feel
I do find it mildly amusing that you, me and nfe are all in magical C... apart from when you drop tune
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I worked out the tension for C# not C doh!!! so a 0.064" in C is 9.8kg of tension not 11kg, makes a lot more sense now!
pretty much the same as me up tuning a semitone, it just looks more as a figure than by feel
I do find it mildly amusing that you, me and nfe are all in magical C... apart from when you drop tune
Magic roundabout C more like ;)
:D
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I'm in drop A# most of the time anyway.
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drop tuning is for lazy people! :P
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drop tuning is for lazy people! :P
And metal is for sloppy players!
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drop tuning is for lazy people! :P
Tell that to paul ryan and dallas toler wade :P
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drop tuning is for lazy people! :P
Tell that to paul ryan and dallas toler wade :P
Paul was in Cradle of Filth though, so he must be looked down upon. :P
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drop tuning is for lazy people! :P
Tell that to paul ryan and dallas toler wade :P
Paul was in Cradle of Filth though, so he must be looked down upon. :P
he has redeemed himself. We all make mistakes.
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drop tuning is for lazy people! :P
Tell that to paul ryan and dallas toler wade :P
Paul was in Cradle of Filth though, so he must be looked down upon. :P
he has redeemed himself. We all make mistakes.
met him last year by accident at an arch enemy gig, nice chap, but he has a prs and engl endorsement so we must hate him by default
at least he doesn't tune to CGCGCE like a man called devin...
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drop tuning is for lazy people! :P
Tell that to paul ryan and dallas toler wade :P
Paul was in Cradle of Filth though, so he must be looked down upon. :P
he has redeemed himself. We all make mistakes.
met him last year by accident at an arch enemy gig, nice chap, but he has a prs and engl endorsement so we must hate him by default
at least he doesn't tune to CGCGCE like a man called devin...
Are we talking about the same paul...the one thats harly ever seen without a mid-range jackson and his mesa triaxis?
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drop tuning is for lazy people! :P
Tell that to paul ryan and dallas toler wade :P
Paul was in Cradle of Filth though, so he must be looked down upon. :P
he has redeemed himself. We all make mistakes.
met him last year by accident at an arch enemy gig, nice chap, but he has a prs and engl endorsement so we must hate him by default
at least he doesn't tune to CGCGCE like a man called devin...
Are we talking about the same paul...the one thats harly ever seen without a mid-range jackson and his mesa triaxis?
And asks for Rectifiers on his tech riders? :)
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drop tuning is for lazy people! :P
Tell that to paul ryan and dallas toler wade :P
Paul was in Cradle of Filth though, so he must be looked down upon. :P
he has redeemed himself. We all make mistakes.
met him last year by accident at an arch enemy gig, nice chap, but he has a prs and engl endorsement so we must hate him by default
at least he doesn't tune to CGCGCE like a man called devin...
Are we talking about the same paul...the one thats harly ever seen without a mid-range jackson and his mesa triaxis?
And asks for Rectifiers on his tech riders? :)
Does he use their power stage for his triaxis/es then?
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Does he use their power stage for his triaxis/es then?
All he brought was a guitar and a multi-FX from memory, no rack or anything. Just straight into the Recto. That's the case with every overseas metal band small enough that I'd ever be involved in dealing with them, nobody really brings any other gear on a plane, some will hire stuff here, but most aren't earning that much anyway before they start shelling out to hire gear for several dates so for the most part they'll have a couple pedals and use whatever has been provided for the headliner.
They were actually quite fortunate that Vader had requested the same backline almost exactly that Origin wanted and were happy for them to use it.
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Does he use their power stage for his triaxis/es then?
All he brought was a guitar and a multi-FX from memory, no rack or anything. Just straight into the Recto. That's the case with every overseas metal band small enough that I'd ever be involved in dealing with them, nobody really brings any other gear on a plane, some will hire stuff here, but most aren't earning that much anyway before they start shelling out to hire gear for several dates so for the most part they'll have a couple pedals and use whatever has been provided for the headliner.
They were actually quite fortunate that Vader had requested the same backline almost exactly that Origin wanted and were happy for them to use it.
One sees.
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ah I'm on about Paul Allender, didn't know there was another one, this is Dani "I slipped on my newrocks in some hail and went flying on stage at a festival once" Filth's fault for kicking out a million people from his band
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Can you imagine being kicked out of a band by dani $%&#ing filth? How embarrasing.
But then, why would you be in a band with dani filth in the first place?
Silly paul ryan. But he got a lot better in the last 10 years, and I trust dani is kicking his dumb self.
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He has gone through quite the number of band members. :lol:
Hell, you could have made a brand new band out of the ex-members that turned up as guests at Deathfest. All reminiscing about their times with the "poisonous dwarf".
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I didn't know this Paul Ryan was the bloke in Origin who does the mental sweeping
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Why does everyone hate Dani Filth? lol
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He's in cradle of filth? He takes himself WAY too seriously? He sucks, but thinks hes great?
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Hmph. I liked Midian...
Never met him though.
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Paid today, so gonna ring these guys tomorrow and order me some strings.
Order some cleartone cables tonight so I look forward to what difference my all 'toned up rig brings. :)
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I hoped to be able to report back on these by now, but after six weeks, three missed turnaround dates and not an appology in sight I still haven't recieved them :roll:
Now they appear to be away on holiday, too.
Customer service to die for, obviously.
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w**kers
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+1 - got bored and bought some from stringsdirect.
Got nickel masters on my Gibson and they suite the gutiar a lot. not sure if thats Newtone or the different type of string though yet
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i did the same, waited ages so brought some from strings direct
they are good strings though - i just think i will order a bit more in advance in the future or stick with strings direct for the standard stuff
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Yeah, the turnaround is rubbish. I'm getting on for the 3 weeks that they told me for my last batch, and the first was late, so I'm going to be chasing soon.
That said they are very accomodating and helpfull in the options and flexibility they provide. And I dont mind a wait so long as things arrive when I expect them to.
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I wouldn't have minded if they'd arrived when the toldme they would. Or even the second date they gave me, hell, even the third.
Now I just get auto-responses to emails saying they will be closed until the 20th. So if you're expecting them before then MDV, you're not getting them.
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I fricken need them NOW as well. Strings are dying.
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Funnily enough, they were waiting for me when I got home today. But they've sent me acoustic strings instead of electric.
Are these jokers really worth this nonsense?
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Yikes.
Maybe not.
But with the improvment in tone I got, I'm finding the idea of going back very hard.
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So after sending me the wrong strings and me emailing them immediately, they took a full week to reply. Saying the were sending up replacement immediately. That was Monday, still nothing's arrived so I email them last night.
My reply this morning?
"Neil they were sent first class first thing Monday on my return to work."
That's it. No apology, no interest evidently.
I've NEVER recieved such laughable customer service and I'm on the 3 Network!
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Ring em up.
They are helpfull on the phone, and people respond much better to voice than typing.
Mine should be here early next week, which I take to mean november.
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This doesn't bode too well. I was considering trying their stuff, but would need their advice on what gauges to go for on my multiscale baritone. The D'Addario strings are doing just fine for now :)
Roo
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Would you believe I've finally recieved them today.
And they'e wrong.
Again.
Now they've sent me nickel acoustic strings :? Or at least they're marked up as such, so I've enquired as to whether they've just stuck the most accurate label they've got on.
Please someone tell me they've discovered other strings that do heavy tunings well? I got really excited about the idea of thinner strings with higher tension.
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Not really.
Closest I've found in my wait for the newtones is DR tite fits, but you probably already knew about those.
They dont have the tension or note definition (12 to 56 set).
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Well, apparently, my next batch should be here tomorrow.
We shall see.
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Well, they arived today, and the order is correct.
Maybe they dont like you nfe? (or it really is better to call on the phone, which it obviously is).
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Apparently mine are the correct ones just without an accurate inlay in the packets.
Stuck them on, sound great, but it's like playing with rubber bands. So I've asked for more, higher gauges.
They do sound great though, so I'll persevere for now.
EDIT: I did speak to them on the phone for the original order as well as after the first couple missed turnaround dates, but it was getting to the point I wanted all their replies in writing.
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One sees.
Well, I'm two orders and 14 packs in and the only $%&# up is delays and not the absurd ones youre getting.
I quite like the darker smoother sound of the DRs, fwiw, but the 56 lacked any sort of tightness for the A#
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I meant to order some ages ago, but this is making me want to stick to daddarios
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They sound much better than diadarrios, though.
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i bet they do, i can't stand d'addarios.
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I'm not fond of their sound at all. I think they sound clangy.
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if that means a similar thing to "twangy and a bit thin and metallic", i agree. I generally prefer warmer-sounding strings, unless i were putting them on a guitar which i wanted to sound twangy (like a fender), and even then there are better-sounding (for me, anyway) bright-sounding strings.
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I'm not fond of their sound at all. I think they sound clangy.
lol, I've been using for years now, what do you guys think to ernie balls then? as that's the only other big brand I know that does singles
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Been ages since I used them: I recall one thing: they disintegrate within a week of putting them on the guitar.
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ye that's pretty much how I remember them, but I never used to cloth down the guitar after use back then
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I'm generally more sensitive to the 'feel' of strings rather than their 'tone' - I like the wound strings to be quite tight otherwise the attack gets too slow.
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I think you'd like their thick cored hex cored HTH.
had a problem with a couple of my round core 60s though - the partially unravelled when I cut ball ends off. One out of 3 that I did that with was fine. Not so good. Sent email asking for replacement. Will call as well. See what happens.
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i haven't used EBs for ages either, but from what i can remember, they were a bit warmer-sounding than d'addarios.
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Well, they said the unravelling round core when you cut the ball end off is normal for their winding technique. They're sending out replacements today (or making them today at least) without ball ends.
Suits me. No fuss, all good.
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I hope you asked them to at least give you a blob of solder or something on the end to help stop them unravelling, or is the dead end wound differently somehow?
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No, they advised me to leave some of the double wind at the end in future. They can make them without ball ends for floyds though, so I'll be doing that with the sets that go on the floyds (which is, after some more testing, the round cores).
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Please keep us posted with your results.
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They arrived today, all present and correct, they look fine (and are very nicely ball end-less)
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Iv'e sent for for some Newtone 13 - 56 roundwound 'Archtop' strings from strings direct to try - as one of the Jazz guitar affectionados at 'Foulds Of Derby' noted that they converted him from Thomastik's already superb 'swing' series flatwounds. A nice combo of supple response and great tone were cited. The bass strings are supposed to be 2 or 3 layers of thin wind on a round core. This sounded as bespoke / befiting B.K.P. Manhatthans as one could get from a round wound string. I hope they are 'bouncier' than Thomastik flatwounds, yet mellower than Thomastik roundwounds of similar build. They are also a fraction of the cost !
Should be here tommorrow, so I will report back for any lurking 'closet' Jazzers and mellow fellows ... 8)
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Well folks, I tried them - and thought they were great strings ; in fact my favourite roundwound strings so far. However, for my Jazz / chord melody purposes, I need a highly polished nickel flatwound - to give all the 'bounce' but with almost zero finger noise, and in a combination of gauges / tensions straight from the pack - to feel totally even across the neck. The Newtone are sweet, but still too zingy and defined for smoooooth Jazz. They would be great for Gypsy Jazz or that Martin Taylor type sound.
So for Solo chord melody / smooth ensemble Jazz it's back to Thomastik 'Swing' Series 13s. However, The Newtone's will be going onto my 'Muled up' Les Paul - and very happily so. Lovely strings ! :)
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i just got back a guitar i had lent to a friend... and he decided to be generous and change the strings before giving it back. only the buggers put d'addarios on it!!
a few months a go that would have been fine but not now :(
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I've just gotten my hands om some nickel masters and have only played them a little, but from what I can tell they seem bright, in a good way. They don't sound like other strings I've tried. They seem to be more "snappy" if that makes any sense. I'm pleased with'em.
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I've been needing some new sets of strings and I usually use Ernie Ball but instead I ordered 5 sets of Newtone Electric Masters 10-46 from Strings Direct.
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And now I need acoustic and bass strings
Should probably order the next batch of electrics while I'm at it, given the waiting time :lol:
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I ordered at the middle of May, and I have just got the Paypal request to say that my strings have been made.
Its convenient that I had the time to buy from stringsdirect in the mean time to ease the curiousity if I would like them or not...
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So Newtone seem to have speeded up quite a bit as of late, I've now had four batches of strings trying to get things right.
Have now settled on:
14-18-26w-36w-48w-60w hex cored with the thicker cores for my guitars in C.
And 14-18-26w-36w-50w-65w hex cored with the thicker cores for my guitar in B.
And am thoroughly pleased.
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So those 60 wounds worked out OK for you (despite being round cored?)
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Damn, sorry, I thought I messaged you about them. You must think me very rude :oops: Thanks again for sending them.
They made a difference, but I find quite a jump between them and the hex cored versions I have now.
All in all, very pleased. Gonna order a ton more so I never get caught out without any. Maybe buy some for my acoustic and bass and see how they are too, I'm sure they'll be great.
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Oh, quite welcome, and not at all, its just a couple of strings
I just noted that the guages on the wounds were 2 for 3 of what I ordered myself
I got another batch of 10 to have a store, since there is a delay and the delay is unpredictable (these took a month to arrive, rather than the 2 weeks promised), some acoustics from strings direct and some bass strings. The acoustics were a little dissapointing, actually: not as much better than earthwoods (that I normally use) as the electrics are. Havent tried the bass strings yet.
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Cool. Here's some music with the 14-60's. On an Edwards Les Paul Custom with a riff raff bridge:
www.myspace.com/chronocide
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Cool. Here's some music with the 14-60's. On an Edwards Les Paul Custom with a riff raff bridge:
www.myspace.com/chronocide
Oh yeah, you can really hear that signature Newtone sound there. :P
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Course you can! All those clean biting vibes!
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hm... all strings more or less sound the same to me. i don't have much of an ear for tone. or its just because i only change strings twice a year.