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Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: Dubn 57 Goldtop on April 16, 2009, 02:53:37 AM

Title: Black Dog, what its replicating?
Post by: Dubn 57 Goldtop on April 16, 2009, 02:53:37 AM

Almost saved enough dough to replace my bridge pup and send my Mule back for a rewind. I'm curious what the Black Dog is wound to replicate? Specifically the bridge Dog. A pickup Page used (years up to 71' a PAF, and later brighter sounds, the T-Top) or what? Waiting to hear back from Tim, any of you fellas know? Thanks

Title: Re: Black Dog, what its replicating?
Post by: Jonny on April 16, 2009, 04:09:08 AM

Er- I don't know if the answer is as obvious or something.

But I'm going to answer: Led Zepp? Seeing as it's named after one of their songs?

Title: Re: Black Dog, what its replicating?
Post by: Dubn 57 Goldtop on April 16, 2009, 05:02:25 AM

thanks for your input jonny. notice how I ask if it's modeled after a specific pickup of Page's (Page being Jimmy Page, now the name of that world dominating band he played in escapes me, HMMMM)?

But he had several different pickups in his 59' burst or his "#1" and split coiling and what not. He had the stock bridge PAF in that guitar until it failed on him in an Australian tour in 72', when he had a T-Top (supposedly) put in and brightened his tone. The T-Top stayed in until 1990, when a Duncan custom wind was wound.  But my curiosity was if the Black Dog BKP is modeled after one of those pickups, or if Tim made a badass wind of his own that captures an era of Page's tone?

Title: Re: Black Dog, what its replicating?
Post by: ailean on April 16, 2009, 06:17:33 AM

As far as I'm aware Tim winds to a tone and not a spec. So I don't think that the Black Dogs will be wound to match a particular 'classic' pup, it will probably end up similar, but more by accident than by design.

Black Dogs are a very cool pup :)

Title: Re: Black Dog, what its replicating?
Post by: hunter on April 16, 2009, 07:07:12 AM

Well as IV was released '71 I would assume that's the tone/era it's modeled after, and particularly the sound in BD.

Title: Re: Black Dog, what its replicating?
Post by: Dubn 57 Goldtop on April 16, 2009, 07:50:05 AM

ahhh, right on. sounds about right. thanks for the input fellas, i'm one check away from gettin a bridge dog and the mule covered!!!

yeah they are a pretty swEEEt pickup! and fyi hunter, your clips are what got me GAS'n!! thanks mate!!

Title: Re: Black Dog, what its replicating?
Post by: Roobubba on April 16, 2009, 08:59:27 AM

What? not mine?

LOL

Title: Re: Black Dog, what its replicating?
Post by: Will on April 16, 2009, 05:42:21 PM

An odd one for BD users. JP used the middle position a lot with his LP, is the Black Dog spec'd to sound like that with just the bridge pickup, or for how he would have done it?

Title: Re: Black Dog, what its replicating?
Post by: Dubn 57 Goldtop on April 16, 2009, 10:59:11 PM

haha. roobubba could you give me the links to your clips, i haven't come across them. i would like to listen  :D

n that's a good question Will. I'm curious too, I would imagine with the calibrated set they would serve that middle function well

Title: Re: Black Dog, what its replicating?
Post by: Twinfan on April 16, 2009, 11:23:18 PM

As I understand it, a BKP pickup is generally specced/developed and the name comes later.  Not necessarily the other way round.  The Black Dog is hot PAF with an Alnico V magnet, and the sound it gives has a Jimmy Page 'vibe'.  I don't think it was intended to be a Jimmy Page pickup.

For example, the Riff Raff is a T-Top style pickup and is named after an AC/DC track.  But it could have been named after any one of a bunch of late seventies bands.

Title: Re: Black Dog, what its replicating?
Post by: Bradock PI on April 16, 2009, 11:25:47 PM

Whats the tone like "Black Dog" vs "The Mule" ?

Title: Re: Black Dog, what its replicating?
Post by: Twinfan on April 16, 2009, 11:32:58 PM

Black Dog to me was a bit hotter, a bit brighter and not as open sounding.