Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: Transcend on April 23, 2009, 08:21:46 PM
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well i know that i want one of these two as i know they are meant to be quite similar just that the mm neck is meant to be a little hotter and more fluid.
so im leaning more towards the mm as i think itll suit me well and itll match with my mm bridge
the one thing im concerned about is are the cleans affected a lot by the increased hotness? i arent wanting super mega cleans just something along the lines of metallica/megadeth.
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I dont think they are that similar...
Not sure what the MM neck specs are, but Tim has told me that its the hottest neck they do. The CS...well, aint that hot.
Could be wrong, but I'd check that out if I were you (or wait for someone to post that knows)
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MM Neck : D.C. 17.5K alnico V
CS Neck : D.C. 8.3K alnico V
they might have very few things in common...Anyway I think both of them will cover the Metallica / Megadeth cleans.
I have not idea what other pickup would pair well with the MM voicing though....
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i thought i should add some more info into here.
For lead tones im wanting something necrophagist like
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2W7h3a0iMw
skip to 2:22 if you hate that kind of music like myself :P
and ive already mentioned the cleans.
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I'd use a CS for necro lead sound.
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I agree with the CS
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I'd use a CS just because they sound awesome in Les Pauls - I generally don't like ceramic passive pickups but the CS is an exception. Actually, it's up there for the #1 BKP spot along with the Mule and Abraxas.
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I'd use a CS just because they sound awesome in Les Pauls - I generally don't like ceramic passive pickups but the CS is an exception. Actually, it's up there for the #1 BKP spot along with the Mule and Abraxas.
This is neck though. The CS neck is A5.
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Ah! i didnt read that part well overall i would say the CS i love the calibrated sey
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I'd use a CS just because they sound awesome in Les Pauls - I generally don't like ceramic passive pickups but the CS is an exception. Actually, it's up there for the #1 BKP spot along with the Mule and Abraxas.
This is neck though. The CS neck is A5.
ahh, yep - I thought we were talking bridge models.
I've still go for the CS neck though - seems to be the one people suggest when the words metal, neck and articulate are used.
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I'd use a CS just because they sound awesome in Les Pauls - I generally don't like ceramic passive pickups but the CS is an exception. Actually, it's up there for the #1 BKP spot along with the Mule and Abraxas.
This is neck though. The CS neck is A5.
ahh, yep - I thought we were talking bridge models.
I've still go for the CS neck though - seems to be the one people suggest when the words metal, neck and articulate are used.
Well, if you were gonna use those words I'd get a painkiller neck, but it does the necrophagist solo sound really well - better than the PK because it has that upper-middy chiming sound.
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well i know that i want one of these two as i know they are meant to be quite similar just that the mm neck is meant to be a little hotter and more fluid.
so im leaning more towards the mm as i think itll suit me well and itll match with my mm bridge
the one thing im concerned about is are the cleans affected a lot by the increased hotness? i arent wanting super mega cleans just something along the lines of metallica/megadeth.
CS neck could be not so hot but surely it's fluid!
you can't go wrong.
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just a thought.....what about the HD neck, as a compromise ?
Antag CLips on the neck are very very good both on clean (awesome) and lead tones.
I fear the CS to be too polite and fluid, I mean not enough ROOOOAAAAARing to acheive the necrophagist leads that are dense and raw sounding, I think... (but I have to confess I directely jumped at 2 :22).
That's more a question rather than a suggestion, but if the CS owner and necrophagist listeners already said the CS is OK, then do not take care of what I am saying here :P
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I really enjoy my MM neck, when both split and in the middle position the clean is quite nice
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just a thought.....what about the HD neck, as a compromise ?
Antag CLips on the neck are very very good both on clean (awesome) and lead tones.
I fear the CS to be too polite and fluid, I mean not enough ROOOOAAAAARing to acheive the necrophagist leads that are dense and raw sounding, I think... (but I have to confess I directely jumped at 2 :22).
That's more a question rather than a suggestion, but if the CS owner and necrophagist listeners already said the CS is OK, then do not take care of what I am saying here :P
Your fears are unwarranted.
I had a CS neck
I know necrophagist very well
Its the right pickup for the job.
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looks like everythings leaning me towards the CS neck. Just gonna give tim a call on payday and see if his opinion differs any but i have a feeling ill be going for the CS.
Thanks guys
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right now i'm playing with my brand new MM set... bridge is damn good, neck is not as good. i prefer CS, no doubt.
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Anyone who has mixed CS neck with MM bridge know what the middle position is like then?
Just been playing my MM pair and they are a perfect match. Been playing a few tracks from No Rest For the Wicked actually :D
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yes yes yes, they match very very well, like every BKP set. neck pickup is just a bit scooped and a bit too dark on lower notes... excellent for shredding, anyway!
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right now i'm playing with my brand new MM set... bridge is damn good, neck is not as good. i prefer CS, no doubt.
+1
the MM neck pup is the only BKP model that didn't impress me
I think I even liked it better placed in the bridge position
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now i know what the expression "a nice EMG 81" means... :)
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im interested in this i know i want a mm bridge but i really want a nice clean sound from theneck (something most agree the mm neck is poor at..)
i need the neck to yh sound really chimming and sparkly clean, but then also mix well with the mm bridge and get aggressive enough to give a nice powerfull lead sounds for solos etc, i want like an arch enemy almost lead tone i think for my solos etc...
sorry for the thread hijack but i deemed our needs and q's to be silmilar enough .... :oops:
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im interested in this i know i want a mm bridge but i really want a nice clean sound from theneck (something most agree the mm neck is poor at..)
i need the neck to yh sound really chimming and sparkly clean, but then also mix well with the mm bridge and get aggressive enough to give a nice powerfull lead sounds for solos etc, i want like an arch enemy almost lead tone i think for my solos etc...
sorry for the thread hijack but i deemed our needs and q's to be silmilar enough .... :oops:
the MM neck isn't bad... just it has got much less personality than other BKPs.
your requirements are difficult to have together in the same pickup. hot and fat pickups are great for fluid soloing but they have a sort of "ptchooong" thing on cleans... :)
sparkly cleans are usually in the territory of quieter, vintage style pickups, but for leads they show some limitation.
IMO the nailbomb is the best compromise. hot enough, middy but very clear on cleans. try this:
http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=16994.0
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ah of them my fave is the nb indeed .... i also like the pk which is odd ... maybe i like the strong mids... i dunno...
cs isnt bad just doesnt have as much i dunno chime??
would the nb mix well with the mm man though??
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i'd say yes!
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i must admit i am a fan of the miracle man neck. it probably depends what guitar you put them in, though i don't find the MM neck scooped or terrible clean. though agree it is great for shred.
i fitted my MM set in a couple of maple steinbergers of different construction methods (maple neck through and graphite bolt-on), and i must say i don't think there can be a better high-gain set for these guitars.
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it's soon to say it, i've played with my new MMs just for some hour, but i think i like neck MM more on cleans than on lead sounds!
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Anyone who has mixed CS neck with MM bridge know what the middle position is like then?
Just been playing my MM pair and they are a perfect match. Been playing a few tracks from No Rest For the Wicked actually :D
do you have a picture of your miracle man'd les paul will?
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Phone pikchar
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i forgot you had a ZW camo les paul!
i think the miracle man really loves alot of maple :) i bet they slay there!