Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Ted 'N' Leo on April 25, 2009, 08:03:04 PM
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I've been gassing for a new cab for a while now to go with my TT head. Seeing as the old Marshall MG cab sounds like...well ass really. I also have an old Fender Deluxe Plus 112 from the mid ninties sitting about the house, so i'm thinking it might be an idea to gut it, get a new speaker and use it as a cab, saving me the hassle of getting a new cab when i'm trying to save to do up my Epi Les Paul.
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b336/Lehi_1987/deluxe.jpg)
Here it is, next to said Les Paul. Its a fairly big combo, and its opened backed, so may not be prone to boxiness as some 112s are.
I'm thinking of a Celestion G12M Heritage 'Greenback' to go with it.
Has anyone else done anything like this before? Or am i just in a mental minority?
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I'd personally skip the G12M in an open-backed cab, it's not the best choice as the bass tends to be loose.
I'd go with a G12H-100, I'm sure they're available for around £40.00 - Twinfan will tell you all about them, he loves those babies.
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I'd personally skip the G12M in an open-backed cab, it's not the best choice as the bass tends to be loose.
I'd go with a G12H-100, I'm sure they're available for around £40.00 - Twinfan will tell you all about them, he loves those babies.
Of course Twinfan has them!
I did think that may be a problem with Greenbacks. Seeing as Clapton used them with closed back cabs. I'm not really an authority on speakers. If anyone would have any recommendations, feel free!
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i just did a similar thing with an old trace eilliot amp box. i have an amps built in but the speaker is on a jack socket so i can either use the built in amp or i can use my matamp head.
2 amps
1 speaker (tayden from jpfamps)
sorted!!!
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It seems a good way to solve a problem anyway! Its been on my mind for a while! Is it more of less a switchcraft jack with cables attached?
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yeah - i wired the speaker straight to a jack socket.
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Sounds like you have a plan :)
I don't actually have any Hot 100s any more, but they're a great speaker. The Greenback may work OK, but it depends how closed your can is. They seem to work better with a more closed cabinet than more open (if that makes sense!).
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To be pedantic G12H100 is a very different speaker to a G12T100 ('Hot 100') and is no longer made - the G12K100 is the nearest to it.
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Good point! I'm talking G12T :)
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Certainly is a plan TF! :)
The cab is, shall we say, very open! I suppose theres nothing stopping me from just converting it to closed back, i can't imagine theres much to it.
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If anyone is interested I have a combo without amp up for grabs in seconds out
Already got a 12" eminance speaker in it
http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=17040.0 (http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=17040.0)
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I've been looking at others speakers on Celestions website, and listened to some of their clips. And i think i like the Blue the best, and i know these generally come in open backed cabs (i think?) so i'm leaning towards that. My only concern is that its only rated 15 watts, and the TT is 7/15 watts. Does anyone know of any alternatives to this?
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The Gold?
alternatively the Eminence Red Fang - 30w
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Blues and Golds are my favourite speakers.
Fecking expensive though :(
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Wez, how is the Tayden speaker? Not heard much press about them but they look like Celestions built in the UK but at the cost of the Chinese Celestions?
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Blues and Golds are my favourite speakers.
Fecking expensive though :(
I thought you had golds! Are they just blues but are rated higher then?
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I've got:
* Blue in my 6V6 Deluxe (home practice amp)
* Gold in 6L6 my Deluxe Relic (rehearsal amp)
* Golds in my 2x12 (gigging rig with Doppelganger)
The Golds are designed to be a 50w Blue, and they are very similar. The only difference I find is that they need more volume than a Blue to work best and get the cone moving. But you'd expect that, being a higher rated speaker, that the sweet spot is that bit louder......
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Wez, how is the Tayden speaker? Not heard much press about them but they look like Celestions built in the UK but at the cost of the Chinese Celestions?
i am liking it so far - it seems to suit the amps well. i have pretty much been using 70's greenbacks in my amps before this. the tayden is very familiar sounding but has a bit more clarity and sparkle and the character of my amps is coming through nicely. it still needs to break in a bit (read as i need to play more) but i couldnt be happpier for the price i payed
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The only difference I find is that they need more volume than a Blue to work best and get the cone moving. But you'd expect that, being a higher rated speaker, that the sweet spot is that bit louder......
Hm, if this is the case, maybe the blue would be better, afterall, AC15s have them, and they're putting out 15 watts?