Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: SRChrono on April 26, 2009, 02:22:52 AM
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I want a warm single coil clean tone but also want to be able to use a humbucker for distortion. Does anyone know any companies? If worse came to worse I could settle for a HSS set up but I don't really want a fender, ibanez, or jackson. I need something that can do drop tunings well. I know this is kind of a stretch but any information would be helpful!
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The only one I know of is the ESP MV series guitar. Since you don't want Fender, Ibanez or Jackson.
(http://thumbnail.image.rakuten.co.jp/@0_mall/sakuragk/cabinet/esp/mvctm-dc.jpg)
There was a cheaper model on eBay, I don't know if it either ran out of time or someone bought it. Look out for it on there.
If you can allow Ibanez, you can spend a good few months hunting for an Ibanez RG565.
Or if you want to go Fender, you could just customise a Telecaster for a humbucker/single coil.
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Caparison Horuses are HS, and they make HGS models which're specifically designed for detuning, with the bridge slightly repositioned for better intonation in low tunings (though it's a bit of a gimmick). Some of the ESP export models (non-US models like the MV and Forest GT) are HS, as are some of the older M2s (which are also cheaper :)). I'm sure there are loads more options, but those're the ones I have direct experience with.
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Caparison Horuses are HS, and they make HGS models which're specifically designed for detuning, with the bridge slightly repositioned for better intonation in low tunings (though it's a bit of a gimmick). Some of the ESP export models (non-US models like the MV and Forest GT) are HS, as are some of the older M2s (which are also cheaper :)). I'm sure there are loads more options, but those're the ones I have direct experience with.
Which are also extremely expensive you should add.
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Yeah, they're not cheap new, but there's always the used market. Some of the older HS M2s don't sell for too much (I got the one I owned, which was a '96ish model for 500aud); and there've been some Horuses going for reasonably cheap in the US. I'm sure there're cheaper HS options, but I don't have experience with them
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There's this french company called Vigier that do a few.
(http://www.harmony-central.com/ProductImages/Large/000000825.jpg)
I know you don't fancy a Fender, but this is pretty mental
(http://www.patrickreedmusic.co.uk/images/j5.jpg)
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For some reason the HS combo is just my fancy, the Vigier looks nice but I would just feel weird playing Bumblefoot's signature model when Bumblefoot is not my cup of tea, good features though, killswitch and a floyd rose pro :)
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Thanks for the info! I like that Vigier. I checked their site but I can't find where to buy (i live in the US). Also, I can't stand floating tremolo systems, I checked their site and it said for that model it only goes one way. Do you think it's like a Fender tremolo? I don't want a lot of tuning hassles. Thanks!
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The Gordon Smith GS1.5. Just got one myself - awesome guitars ! If you get a good one, the necks play like silk. Potentially able to do pretty much any genre, with the right pickups of course.
There has been some question about Gordon Smith's recent quality control not being up to the standard of previous decades, so might be a good idea to play it first. Used examples are usually a bargain, however, and these are very sturdy guitars !
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who starts these BS rumours???
get the GS 1.5 if you can afford it!
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who starts these BS rumours???
get the GS 1.5 if you can afford it!
It's not BS - I've seen it first hand, as have several other folk.
Try before you buy a Gordon Smith......
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Got to agree I got a Left handed tele made on the basis of how good the GS slimline les paul that I picked up off the bay and the tele is far from great. Can't help feeling the a lad on a weeks work experience made the tele. It got great neck apart from down in the gods where the back of the neck is a little rough, but the body to guitar is rubbish. The body of the guitar is what looks like knotty pine. Its almost lifeless. When I took it for a setup I got the tech to put BK's in the guitar he told me how the they had c--ked up the guitar and filled some routing.
They do some dam good ones but they do produce turkeys too! :shock: Try before you buy.
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It's not just recent, either - their QC has never been that great. When they're good they're very good, but I don't think they're very bothered if they produce a few duds.
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I'm a fan of the HS config as well. Probably shown this off hundreds of times but here is my number 1 guitar- complete with holydiver in the bridge and stock fender pickup in the neck. Not a production model, just a mexican tele i attacked with a hand drill.
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I know you said no Fender, but I had to post this cause I love it.
(http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii1/anintentionalnoise/fender_st75sh.jpg)
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From Vigier, you have the Ultra blues, which comes as hardtail or with a vintage trem:
(http://212.43.220.66/sites/medias/produit/photos/222.jpg)
The ESP MV and Caparison Horus mentioned are both good choices, but they're also both 24.75" scale length.
There's allways suhr ofcourse. All depends how far your budget stretches.
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Why not just get a Mexican strat and change the pickguard to a HS one and install pickups of your choice
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There's a version of the BC Rich Gunslinger with a HxS combo
(http://www.promusicaustralia.com/guitar/BCrichImages/gunslinger_retro_red.jpg)
Or there's the japanese Charvel Fusion Special that I'm selling (worth a try eh?! :lol:)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y158/Browsif/Guitars/DSC02686.jpg)
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just ignore the middle pup when you play, it will widen your choice quite a bit ;p
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Thanks for the info! I like that Vigier. I checked their site but I can't find where to buy (i live in the US). Also, I can't stand floating tremolo systems, I checked their site and it said for that model it only goes one way. Do you think it's like a Fender tremolo? I don't want a lot of tuning hassles. Thanks!
It's a Floyd Rose that is blocked off behind, and pivots on ballbearings. From what I've read, it's designed that way to eliminate tuning problems.
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so, is it recent, or has it always been so...?
i personally haven't seen anything so bad that it'd put me off buying a GS. sloppy cosmetic stuff, sure, but that's all..
ffs! if you believe everything you read, then EVERY new product is worse than the one that preceded it...
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my eggle new york's HS... you'd have to go second-hand, though.
as a lot of people have already said, if you're willing to go HSS, that'll widen your options considerably.
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I could handle an HSS guitar. Just nothing with a floating trem. I'm afraid i'm going to end up with a Fender :[
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This one is pretty cool
http://cgi.ebay.com/Fender-American-Mahogany-Stratocaster-HSS-SG-Gibson_W0QQitemZ330325101514QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar?hash=item330325101514&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50
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I could handle an HSS guitar. Just nothing with a floating trem. I'm afraid i'm going to end up with a Fender :[
plenty of people make HSS guitars. When you say floating trem, do you mean a Floyd? I mean, a Fender-style trem can be set up to float too (but can also be set up not to).
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Yes, I mean like a Floyd or ZR tremolo :D
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The H/S config is my favorite. Although I also like H/S/S just fine as well. Here is a pic of my Caparison Horus. It is awesome. Also that Bumblefoot Vigier will run you about $4000.
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d29/yellowv/332-1.jpg)
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Also that Bumblefoot Vigier will run you about $4000.
Pretty sure that's just incorrect.
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This one is pretty cool
http://cgi.ebay.com/Fender-American-Mahogany-Stratocaster-HSS-SG-Gibson_W0QQitemZ330325101514QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar?hash=item330325101514&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50
That's a nice guitar - but a terrible eBay ad! What sort of person tries to sell a guitar by writing one line of text, quoting a few specs and reviews... and can't be bothered to take even one picture of the guitar in question? :?
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That Caparison Horus looks awesome but there is no way I can afford one of those right now.
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Gibson Flying V90 Double:
(http://www.flying-v.ch/v90/fv90wh1.jpg)
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so, is it recent, or has it always been so...?
i personally haven't seen anything so bad that it'd put me off buying a GS. sloppy cosmetic stuff, sure, but that's all..
ffs! if you believe everything you read, then EVERY new product is worse than the one that preceded it...
You've been lucky then ;)
There are several people now who have said that they've been unhappy with GS guitars from first hand experience. We're not just spreading internet BS. We personally have seen and played very poor examples.
Like we say, try before you buy. There are some good ones out there :)
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i have an awesome one, and my mate has an okish one.
im going to rewire it tonight for him, ill post up a wiring pic so you can go "URGH!" later on.
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Yes, I mean like a Floyd or ZR tremolo :D
ok, cool. you really have a ton of options, then, and depends on how much you want to spend. yamaha pacificas from the 112 up are great if you don't want to spend too much. but as i said, you have a load of options- fender, blade, ibanez, jackson, etc. etc. etc.
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Gibson Flying V90 Double:
(http://www.flying-v.ch/v90/fv90wh1.jpg)
I'll see your Flying V90 Double and raise you an SG-90 Double:
(http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/6461/sg90double013ll.jpg)
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so, is it recent, or has it always been so...?
i personally haven't seen anything so bad that it'd put me off buying a GS. sloppy cosmetic stuff, sure, but that's all..
ffs! if you believe everything you read, then EVERY new product is worse than the one that preceded it...
You've been lucky then ;)
There are several people now who have said that they've been unhappy with GS guitars from first hand experience. We're not just spreading internet BS. We personally have seen and played very poor examples.
Like we say, try before you buy. There are some good ones out there :)
Absolutely.
Both my main guitars are Gordon Smiths. I love 'em. But I have also played a couple of real shockers that should never have left the factory. One with appallingly sloppy fretwork, the other with a problem neck/body joint (apparently a known occasional problem area, as I have heard other reports of problems here).
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if i'm not wrong steinberger makes some HS model...
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so, is it recent, or has it always been so...?
i personally haven't seen anything so bad that it'd put me off buying a GS. sloppy cosmetic stuff, sure, but that's all..
ffs! if you believe everything you read, then EVERY new product is worse than the one that preceded it...
You've been lucky then ;)
There are several people now who have said that they've been unhappy with GS guitars from first hand experience. We're not just spreading internet BS. We personally have seen and played very poor examples.
Like we say, try before you buy. There are some good ones out there :)
surely the same could be said of pretty much any guitar brand. especially eastern mass produced stuff. i've also heard (lol) a lot of gibson's are really terrible...
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I'll see your Flying V90 Double and raise you an SG-90 Double:
well, i'll see that and raise you a Fernandes JG50:
(http://guitarshop-gen.com/eleki/fel/ferjg50.jpg)
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I'll see your Flying V90 Double and raise you an SG-90 Double:
well, i'll see that and raise you a Fernandes JG50:
I don't know any more poker terms, but I'm not crazy about that (nice colour though)! Much prefer your Warmoth Jazzmaster.
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I was also going to suggest the Eggle New York - there is a nifty one on the Bay at the moment
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Patrick-Eggle-New-York-Pro-Mahogany-electric-guitar_W0QQitemZ160331150839QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV?hash=item160331150839&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1688|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318|301%3A0|293%3A1|294%3A50
Mike
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I was also going to suggest the Eggle New York - there is a nifty one on the Bay at the moment
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Patrick-Eggle-New-York-Pro-Mahogany-electric-guitar_W0QQitemZ160331150839QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV?hash=item160331150839&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1688|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318|301%3A0|293%3A1|294%3A50
Mike
Awww that guitar looks great but i live in the States and it's UK only =[
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In the States and everything.
http://cgi.ebay.com/199I-Ibanez-RG565-RG-565-Japan-Candy-Red-Prestige-Case_W0QQitemZ380121113209QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar?hash=item380121113209&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318|301%3A1|293%3A1|294%3A50