Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: the prince of shred on May 06, 2009, 09:48:27 PM
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http://www.rondomusic.com/intreceptorpro27red.html
pickups for that guitar?^
i want a very clear sound with loads of low end growl tightish, and brutal!!!!!!!!!!! from the neck i want clear crisp cleans, and fluidity.....
ceramic warpigs??
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Cpig, cold sweat.
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bridge and neck respectively? (if so thats amazing as that was my thoughts) or just those options?
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Bridge and neck.
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wooooop!, (first time ive got the exact response i thought myself.... usually theres some conroversy.... maybe itull come later)
but cheers MDV :D
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niice!
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No bother.
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And that guitar is nice too !
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I'm leaning toward that combo in one of my guitars, too - seems like it'd be a bit more versatile than a C-pig set.
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the guitar is nice 8) (shame obout shipping costs and cr@ppy exchange rate...but still a good price...) .... n i think the cpig set is still fairly versatile fikealox...coldsweat is brighter more fluid?? but i dont own either cpig or coldsweat neck so i cant say for sure... cheers anyway guys..... now to scr@pe together cash... man theirs so much i want :lol: :?
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Oh yeah, I'm sure a C-pig set is great. I should've just said 'for my purposes', lol. I tend to use the neck pickup for leads, so smoothness and clarity is at a premium. Good to hear the C-pig and CS are a good match :)
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ah 'for my purposes', then yeah as far as smooth lead work goes im sure the CS is a better choice (warpig better for kinda chrunchy leads?).... n same hear now as soon as that wage pack hits the bank 8)....
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miracle man set.
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miracle man set.
sorry is that in response to my initial post?
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Can you retrofit passives into a guitar with 707s without leaving huge gaps?
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that was gunna be my next question, i think someone else on the forum recently asked about how to do it...... so yh, what would be the best way?
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Well. i'll be able to tell you guys more once i get the pickups for my EMG Equipped Loomis7 string.
from the measurements time gave me, i think i'll have to dremel out a bit of the sides of the pickup holes to make the pickup's base legs fit. like .5 cm. the rest pretty much fits snuggly.
BKP 7 strings are 38mm x 78mm according to tim. that's coil size. add pretty much 5 mm to each side for the pickup base legs.. i think. i haven't been able to dismount a passive 7 string humbucker to see.
EMG 707's are 38mmx88mm if you look at it, it's a pretty tight fit... but you'll see gaps on every corner.
with mounting rings, it's hopeless, as you'll have a hard time finding any wood to screw the rings on. direct body mount is the logical way, imho.
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dremel?? this a fancy word for gouge or carve? :chain:
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hahahhahahah I do like to meet someone that has no hesitation in taking a dremmel to his guitar to make pickups fit! $%&# routers, $%&# refinishing, asthetics be damned, Have Dremmel Will Use and aquire TOANE!
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i would think a cold sweat would be too underpowered to sit in the same guitar as a c-pig.
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i would think a cold sweat would be too underpowered to sit in the same guitar as a c-pig.
Then you'd think wrong :)
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keep in mind, my guitar has a very slight satin finish ;)
i got a 7 string passive pup from a friend to check for measurements, and honest, the only problems are the ears, and by like 1-2 mm, so you could probably get away by filing the sides of the ears a bit and carving (:D) the insides of the cavity just a little bit.
of course, carving can be replaced with whatever you like if you're not a caveman like me!
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Ah, well thats a lot less harcore and generally back in the realms of "stuff that I would do".
Which still of course meets with my approval.
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chissel be required ? ;) :lol:
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No just a dremmel.
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by the way, i have to say, that is one sweet ass 7 string for the price. what's the catch? (i know the 325 is deposit only... but still... 650$???)
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yh its very nice ... well their cheap because they dont have the advertisng costs of large companies, their made on a smaller productions scale (not sure whether this would make them cheaper ... i suppose to a degree it would but then the opposite is tru also to an extent...) unfortunately im in the uk so its not quite that cheap when u consider shipping and exchange rate etc. but still its a small price to pay for such a sweet guitar :D
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I'm about to put a 7 string painkiller into a 707 route, pending it's arrival. The wait is driving me slowly insane, after using a 707, an 81-7 and a Blackout I'm somewhat eager to install a decent pickup in the guitar :lol: this of course has led to me pondering/testing in the meantime with regards to fitting a passive.
You have a couple options with regards to aesthetic solutions really. The easiest two would be either pickup rings or a custom pickguard. Since your guitar has a carved top, you're left with the rings.
You can go one of two ways with pickup rings. One option is to order a custom set from here (http://www.fretsonthenet.net/other_parts.htm#EMG707_to_Passive_Conversion_Rings), it seems this guy's work comes highly reccomended judging by the word of mouth. I can't vouch for it personally, however. This option would (I presume) involve drilling holes in your guitar to mount the ring, which is enough to put me off.
Alternatively, just go for a regular set of 7 string pickup rings such as these (http://www.guitarpartsshop.co.uk/acatalog/Humbucker_Accessories.html), found halfway down this page. You will need to mount the ring with long screws, such as pickup mounting screws; this is because the screwholes on the rings line up inside the 707 route. I've just mounted 2 rings on my guitar in this fashion and it's fine, they're quite solid. I plan to direct mount the pickups however, the rings are purely cosmetic (I also have some dummy screwheads in where the pickup would usually be screwed to the ring). This method has the added bonus of being cheaper and also not requiring any drilling on the face of your guitar.
As far as the baseplate tabs go, they are too wide by in the region of 4.5mm if memory serves. It's too much to grind away from the ears without grinding through to the hole, unfortunately. However, it is entirely possible to bend the baseplate legs inwards, then bend the tabs flat again, until they align with both the size of the route, and the screwholes 707 pickup was screwed into. I actually tested this with a spare baseplate (from a seymour duncan which I hacked to pieces for what it's worth, which should be at least approximately the same size as a bk 7 string baseplate), it appears to work fine. I can post feedback as to how the install goes once my pickup arrives (I'm trying to repress urges to assault the postie if he doesn't bring it tomorrow :x ).
As far as the custom pickguard goes, purely for reference for anyone else with this predicament, you can either make one yourself from a blank, or there are several places online offering custom pickguards, such as here (http://www.pickguardparadise.com). I'm informed they will ship to the UK, and I know for a fact they've made pickguards to cover up emg 808 routes before now, so 707 ones shouldn't be a problem.
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had to read that a couple of times to take it all in but thats wikid thanks for the great feedback :)
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hell yes!
i was thinking about bending the tabs, but i wasn't sure how that would work. great feedback indeed!
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update!
I got my BKP's today. hooray. they fit snugly into the emg707 cavity with a slight bending of the tabs. it's a piece of cake.
for a floyd it's not a problem, but you may need to think about drilling a hole from the electronics cavity to the bridge. i have a wire wrapping around the bridge down into the pickup cavity for now, but that's the only aspect i forgot. damn emg's are internally grounded...
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My pickup arrived today and I installed it, no problems for me either. I have the pickup rings in place too, they do the job perfectly, and I'm really happy how easy it was to make the changeover.
As far as the Painkiller itself, it's simply the most savagely aggressive pickup I've ever used. "The Metal God in a pickup" really is spot on. Not only that, it has exceptional string definition and handles the low B with ease, too. I didn't expect to be blown away to the same extent as I was when I first installed my C-pig in my 6 string, but my expectations have been exceeded once again.
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the painkiller is maybe the sweetest surprise i had from BKP. i had many doubts before installing it... now it's my favourite!