Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: Brown tone on May 11, 2009, 05:18:14 PM
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I need a pickup that produces high output with huuuge mid hump. I like the lower midrange roar so what shuold i get? Preferable sound would be moderate lows and highs with boost in the low mids.
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woods? mahog body and neck?
the pickups with that low midrange thing goin on are miracle man or hd i beleive... hmmm hd may be abit muddy in that guitar?? miracle man abit boomy? (im speculating)
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You want a Miracle Man.
This one will make you smile ! :good:
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You want a Miracle Man.
This one will make you smile ! :good:
yh i do think the MM may be the way to go with this one.... i just wonder whether itull have to much overpowering bass in an explorer tho....??
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You want a Painkiller!
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I can only imagine an MM being great in an explorer. Especially if you like a low mid roar.
I hope the PK suggestion is sarcasm? It being the opposite of what the OP wants.
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So with miracle man I should get a raw and punchy mid range? I usually equalize the sound so that there is only a little bass and somewhat cut down highs, scooped mids and boosted upper mid range. I want *very* thick and punchy lower mids for the sound to be huge and stay fast.
The guitar is mahogany, but the body is thin and fretboard is made of ebony so the emphasis is not on bass range. It actually sounds pretty clear and articulate!
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pig?
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"A true beast and heavy as hell itself. Monstrous bass response coupled with mid range grind and bite. "
Should this be translated as: "huge bass and mids" or "huge bass and moderate mids" or "huge bass and scooped mids"? Grind and bite sounds a bit iffy to me.
The pig does sound intriquing though. I'm just worried if it's a bit boomy.
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Its not boomy, no. Unless you put it in a boomy guitar. So it could be in an explorer, I suppose.
The pigs mids are ballanced in level and grinding in character.
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the pigs have got a balanced EQing with a peculiar and very heavy midrange full of mid-mids... treble are smooth and lows are... well, just right in my mahogany LesPaul studio and in my basswood RG...
my only advice is to stay away from the neck unit, if your guitar is acoustically dark...
i'm not sure if your description is compatible with MMs, for sure it's how the Holy Diver bridge sounds like!
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Maybe you have to think of it more in terms of voicing rather than amount of frequencies. Listen to clips may help to illustrate the idea behind those words.
Anyway the Pig is not scooped in the Midzz as those words (grind and bite) refer to how they are
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I need a pickup that produces high output with huuuge mid hump. I like the lower midrange roar so what shuold i get? Preferable sound would be moderate lows and highs with boost in the low mids.
That looks like a description of Crawlers to me.
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Crawlers have a big mid hump, in my experience
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The problem with sound clips is that they are made with completely different setups each time, so they don't really tell anything at all. I can make single coils rip death metal style with some knob turning, but that does not mean the particular pickup does it well. Amps, cabs and equalization contributes around 80% of the sound and the rest is pickups and guitar.
Someone is going to mention playing that's not a variable that really affects the fundamental tone and sound the speakers breath out.
Back to thread: Crawlers would be good for fast and crushing low mid rhythm tones?!?
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Back to thread: Crawlers would be good for fast and crushing low mid rhythm tones?!?
if you mean fast rythm tracks / tight palm mutes riffs :twisted:, then the answer is no.
The Crawler will be too fat and warm for that.
I agree clips are not an easy way to listen to the pickups (but if you haven't the opportunity to try one, then you'll have no choice... ) Maybe you could try to listen to many clips of the same pickup and fix the similarity in tone / voicing between them.. dunno if this help much anyway..
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Back to thread: Crawlers would be good for fast and crushing low mid rhythm tones?!?
if you mean fast rythm tracks / tight palm mutes riffs :twisted:, then the answer is no.
The Crawler will be too fat and warm for that.
I agree clips are not an easy way to listen to the pickups (but if you haven't the opportunity to try one, then you'll have no choice... ) Maybe you could try to listen to many clips of the same pickup and fix the similarity in tone / voicing between them.. dunno if this help much anyway..
Wrong again. Stop guessing and then treating it as fact!!!
The crawler is pretty good for fast stuff, in the grand scheme. Its not as good as other BKs for it, but its as good as, say, a JB. Its got quite a lot of definition from its mids and its quite tight, and theres a surprising amount of power on tap.
The crawler is bar none the most versatile pickup I've ever heard. Its not necessarily the best for a thing (well, its a candidate for best for blues-rock, if the emphasis is on rock), but it can do ANYTHING. And well.
Put it this way - I play predominantly metal, but peeps round here keep getting me to play all sorts of stuff, and I resent the idea of normally tuning one of my metal guitars when they're so much better how they are. I had an Epi LP that I put crawlers in to make a blues guitar, once upon a time, cos I fancied the idea. Turns out, I dont play that much blues, and it couldnt keep up so well with the drop A# savagery, so I sold it. But when more and more people started tracking me down for random stuff and I came to need a guitar permanently in E that was ready for anything, I thought immediately of that spedific guitar, because of the crawlers, and went and bought it back as soon as the opportunity arose.
But thats all somewhat redundant, since you want no mid hump, and the crawler has a mid hump, and you want a miracle man or maybe, just maybe, a warpig. Just wanted to set the record straight on the crawler.
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Hey excuse me Sir Yoda but I wasn't guessing here. I agree the CR is one of the most versatile BKP, but as everything on this little planet it has its own limits. The limit of the CR is those fast metal rythm / riffs. Indeed when I asked Tim for a bridge pickup able to do some heavy-to-speed-metal I mentionned him the CR, 'cause I was interested in this one, especially for its versality. His answer was that it was not the best choice for that, even for E Metallica lines. He advised me not to go for it, for that music, so I didn't buy it. That's a simple fact.
It's true that the question lacks a little on the musical tastes / needs so we are little stabbing in the dark.
As for me I was guessing the aim was more on the fast (crushing as said) metal music rather than blues rock...
Not that the CRawler cannot do it, just not the best choice.
The question wasn't : "can the CR do that ?",
The question was : "would the CR be good for that ?"
Amen ! :|
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Back to thread: Crawlers would be good for fast and crushing low mid rhythm tones?!?
the answer is no.
Its not necessarily the best
not the best choice for that,
Not that the CRawler cannot do it, just not the best choice.
Spot the odd one out!
But since you've backtracked to the correct position, its all good :)
Is it good for it?
Yes.
Is it the best?
No.
Was "Is it best" the original question?
No.
Does the pickup do what the OP wants?
Not as well as others.
Glad we cleared that up :D
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Was "Is it best" the original question?
No.
Does the pickup do what the OP wants?
Not as well as others.
Glad we cleared that up :D
:ctf2: :rock:
when you put 200 quids in a pup, of course you'll expect it to be good, but you also somehow will hope (I am guessing here and treating it as a fact) that you've done the best choice, won't you ?
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Yeah, but thats why I didnt recommend it :P