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Forum Ringside => Players => Topic started by: hunter on May 23, 2009, 09:40:35 PM

Title: Same clip - Marshall VM / Axe through VHT / Axe direct - what's your verdict?
Post by: hunter on May 23, 2009, 09:40:35 PM

Allrighty, I did similar clips over the past months/years, different guitars but all mahogany with vintage/hot BKPs.

So here is the same-ish clip, once Marshall VM through Cab/SM57, once Axe FX through VHT2502 and SM57, once Axe direct.

What do you think of the 3? Can you guess which is which?
Title: Re: Same clip - Marshall VM / Axe through VHT / Axe direct - what's your verdict?
Post by: Ian Price on May 23, 2009, 10:16:57 PM
I'm really not sure. I'm rubbish at stuff like this but would go for:

A - AxeFX > VHT
B- AxeFX direct
C - VM

Probably completely wrong! They all sound good to me though, and I listened to them all through the internal speakers of my little laptop!
Title: Re: Same clip - Marshall VM / Axe through VHT / Axe direct - what's your verdict?
Post by: the prince of shred on May 24, 2009, 12:19:00 AM
im not sure as im not really experianced to tell but A sounds best but a little 'fake?' computerized i guess?? C sounds good but weaker but also warmer..? n b just sounds weak and muffled with the midds n highs muffled ....
Title: Re: Same clip - Marshall VM / Axe through VHT / Axe direct - what's your verdict?
Post by: hunter on May 24, 2009, 07:52:03 AM

Allright, the solution is ... (don't scroll down if you wanna check later)



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The solution is:







A: Axe direct
B: Marshall
C: Axe through VHT
Title: Re: Same clip - Marshall VM / Axe through VHT / Axe direct - what's your verdict?
Post by: the prince of shred on May 24, 2009, 11:11:50 AM
wow well thats some good modelling shizz :D
Title: Re: Same clip - Marshall VM / Axe through VHT / Axe direct - what's your verdict?
Post by: Twinfan on May 24, 2009, 12:05:43 PM
The lead lines sound better on B to me - more natural and full - plus Hunter sounds like he's responding to the amp better in his playing  :)  Rhythm parts are muffled though, as said above....



Title: Re: Same clip - Marshall VM / Axe through VHT / Axe direct - what's your verdict?
Post by: hunter on May 24, 2009, 12:17:22 PM
The lead lines sound better on B to me - more natural and full - plus Hunter sounds like he's responding to the amp better in his playing  :)  Rhythm parts are muffled though, as said above....





I agree with the leads. It was much louder when recording than yesterday, when I did the direct clips.

I did another version today, using the Recto New for the leads instead of the SLO, but again lower volume, here it is.
Title: Re: Same clip - Marshall VM / Axe through VHT / Axe direct - what's your verdict?
Post by: _tom_ on May 24, 2009, 12:19:09 PM
My favourite is B as well. Just sounds more natural as twinfan says. C sounds very thin in comparison.
Title: Re: Same clip - Marshall VM / Axe through VHT / Axe direct - what's your verdict?
Post by: indysmith on May 26, 2009, 12:55:38 PM
Yeah I like B because it sounds like a real amp, lol. It's a bit more saggy. It doesn't mask your playing either.

The Axe seems like a great bit of gear, but I'm not convinced it's good enough to replace real valves yet!
Title: Re: Same clip - Marshall VM / Axe through VHT / Axe direct - what's your verdict
Post by: gwEm on May 26, 2009, 02:41:43 PM
my favourite is C. i reckon some post-prod eq tweaks could have covered up most of the differences though.
Title: Re: Same clip - Marshall VM / Axe through VHT / Axe direct - what's your verdict?
Post by: hunter on May 27, 2009, 02:00:51 PM

Did again some tweaking and reduced the gain/increased the openness a bit.

Now if this doesn't sound like Marshall, then I don't know what does , would you agree?
 
8)

http://www.klangforschungszentrum.de/temp/Immigrant_A_javi.mp3
Title: Re: Same clip - Marshall VM / Axe through VHT / Axe direct - what's your verdict?
Post by: dheim on May 30, 2009, 07:31:15 PM
the axe is more "professional" sounding, but strangely enough i prefer the marshall. muffled, yes, with that hideous buzzing overtones that i hate in marshalls, but much more dynamic and tight (maybe it was just your playing, changing a bit through the different takes, though)...