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Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: AdamB on May 26, 2009, 08:39:52 PM

Title: New band, new pickup?.....(high gain stuff)
Post by: AdamB on May 26, 2009, 08:39:52 PM
So yeah, i had a practice with a new band last night. Really enjoyed it after having not played in a band for about 8 months i think.

I use a C-pig at the moment, and i don't think it's the best thing for a two guitar band. It did the massive thick sound i wanted  for my last band where i was the only guitarist, but i'm thinking that i might need to take it down a tad

I'll be playing mainly rhythm with a bit of lead here and there. Clarity is an issue as always (but i don't really need to worry about that with BKP's :D)

It's going in my 61 SG, and the other guitarist uses a EMG 85

Music style is pretty techy hardcore. Tuning is D standard

I'm thinking a Miracle Man, a C-Bomb or a Cold Sweat (although i'm thinking that i might want something slighty hotter than the CS)

Any help appreciated!
Title: Re: New band, new pickup?.....(high gain stuff)
Post by: pagan7 on May 26, 2009, 09:51:36 PM
I'd say a calibrated set of Painkillers would be well worth considering for "techy hardcore"
Title: Re: New band, new pickup?.....(high gain stuff)
Post by: AdamB on May 26, 2009, 10:14:44 PM
I think they'll be too harsh for my likings, a bit too middy maybe
Title: Re: New band, new pickup?.....(high gain stuff)
Post by: hunter on May 26, 2009, 11:54:30 PM
I love my RiffRaff in the SG for teh brootalz very very much. I think it's also perfect for a two guns setup, it's bright and cuts it and is not overly compressed.
Title: Re: New band, new pickup?.....(high gain stuff)
Post by: ericsabbath on May 27, 2009, 03:27:49 AM
I think they'll be too harsh for my likings, a bit too middy maybe


the painkiller is not harsh at all
Title: Re: New band, new pickup?.....(high gain stuff)
Post by: AdamB on May 27, 2009, 05:46:07 AM
I love my RiffRaff in the SG for teh brootalz very very much. I think it's also perfect for a two guns setup, it's bright and cuts it and is not overly compressed.

I think i'd like something a bit more modern Hunter but thanks anyway mate  :)

Title: Re: New band, new pickup?.....(high gain stuff)
Post by: Antag on May 27, 2009, 07:35:10 AM
I'm thinking a Miracle Man, a C-Bomb or a Cold Sweat (although i'm thinking that i might want something slighty hotter than the CS)
Don't worry about the CS not being able to "keep up" with the other pickups - it has plenty of power, probably more than a NB (though I've no experience of the C-Bomb).
Title: Re: New band, new pickup?.....(high gain stuff)
Post by: Twinfan on May 27, 2009, 09:58:12 AM
I think a Cold Sweat would be a good option.  It's lot bit lighter than you C-Pig but still heavy and tight enough for metal by all accounts.  It will give you a thinner tone which will balance better with the EMG guy.

Depends if you want to go tight and clear or a bit more organic?  If so, you might want to try a Nailbomb?
Title: Re: New band, new pickup?.....(high gain stuff)
Post by: Roobubba on May 27, 2009, 11:29:05 AM
Don't be too quick to write off the lower gain pickups ;)

Roo
Title: Re: New band, new pickup?.....(high gain stuff)
Post by: MDV on May 27, 2009, 02:29:45 PM
Painkiller.
Title: Re: New band, new pickup?.....(high gain stuff)
Post by: AdamB on May 27, 2009, 02:47:45 PM
I'm thinking a Miracle Man, a C-Bomb or a Cold Sweat (although i'm thinking that i might want something slighty hotter than the CS)
Don't worry about the CS not being able to "keep up" with the other pickups - it has plenty of power, probably more than a NB (though I've no experience of the C-Bomb).

The C-bomb is basically an overwound CS according to Tim.

So if there's enough power in a CS, then they'll be more than enough in a C-bomb i guess?

Also, no one has even mentioned the MM?!
Title: Re: New band, new pickup?.....(high gain stuff)
Post by: ericsabbath on May 27, 2009, 05:10:02 PM
The C-bomb is basically an overwound CS according to Tim.

So if there's enough power in a CS, then they'll be more than enough in a C-bomb i guess?

where did he say that?
Title: Re: New band, new pickup?.....(high gain stuff)
Post by: AdamB on May 27, 2009, 05:23:40 PM
On the phone to me yesterday
Title: Re: New band, new pickup?.....(high gain stuff)
Post by: pagan7 on May 27, 2009, 09:23:12 PM
Painkillers are focused and precise with fabulous dynamic response and shed loads of bite - but never harsh - and if you roll back the volume pot they clean up surprisingly well given their spec - far from being a one trick pony
Title: Re: New band, new pickup?.....(high gain stuff)
Post by: AdamB on May 27, 2009, 10:28:21 PM
There's just something about them that have never appealed to me from the clips.

I will relisten though
Title: Re: New band, new pickup?.....(high gain stuff)
Post by: ericsabbath on May 27, 2009, 11:20:25 PM
On the phone to me yesterday

nice
did he mention the magnet size and type?
my cold sweat has a thick C4 (and it's very explosive  :lol:)
Title: Re: New band, new pickup?.....(high gain stuff)
Post by: AdamB on May 28, 2009, 08:00:09 AM
On the phone to me yesterday

nice
did he mention the magnet size and type?
my cold sweat has a thick C4 (and it's very explosive  :lol:)

No, he Just said the best options for my SG would be a MM, C-Bomb or a CS. As i want a ceramic magnet.

I don't know much about different ceramic magnets, what are the different ones?

I think i'm leaning towards the C-Bomb at the moment, just a slighty hotter CS  :D


Title: Re: New band, new pickup?.....(high gain stuff)
Post by: AdamB on May 28, 2009, 10:55:15 AM
Ok, after talking again this morning to a very patient Tim. I have ordered a Cold Sweat!

2 conductor, Nickel cover  :D

Can't wait!
Title: Re: New band, new pickup?.....(high gain stuff)
Post by: Dr. Vic on May 28, 2009, 08:01:05 PM
If you don't mind, I'd be glad if you could say why he advised you a CS over the C-NB

thanks !

And Enjoy  :twisted:
Title: Re: New band, new pickup?.....(high gain stuff)
Post by: AdamB on May 28, 2009, 08:52:32 PM
He started by saying that you shouldn't always go off DC resistance for output etc, and what i was describing (music, amp, guitar etc) the cold sweat was the best. I was trying to push a C-bomb, but he said i wouldn't need it as i was saying at a jump from my 22k C-pig to the 14k CS would be massive drop in hotness. That's where the talk of DC resistance came in....

He also talked about wire gauges, and how he's perfected each pickup to sound it's best. So overwinding can sometimes make a pickup sound not as good as he intended it to.
Title: Re: New band, new pickup?.....(high gain stuff)
Post by: Dr. Vic on May 28, 2009, 09:04:14 PM
thanks for the information, mate.

Interesting...what Tim says is ALWAYS interesting !  8)

Title: Re: New band, new pickup?.....(high gain stuff)
Post by: AdamB on May 28, 2009, 09:05:54 PM
Can't help but think that i lost him half way through. But i kept saying, "Yep, yep"
Title: Re: New band, new pickup?.....(high gain stuff)
Post by: Dr. Vic on May 28, 2009, 09:44:15 PM
But i kept saying, "Yep, yep"
  :lol:

Dammit ! Do you mean you didn't nailed (all) what he said ? How comes ?

Were you :orczz: ? or were you  :oops: ? or were you  :stupid: ?

 PDT_004
Title: Re: New band, new pickup?.....(high gain stuff)
Post by: gwEm on May 30, 2009, 11:22:47 AM
i wanted to suggest cold sweat, but was keeping quiet - nice one and enjoy!
Title: Re: New band, new pickup?.....(high gain stuff)
Post by: AdamB on May 30, 2009, 06:41:41 PM
i wanted to suggest cold sweat, but was keeping quiet - nice one and enjoy!

Haha! Why?
Title: Re: New band, new pickup?.....(high gain stuff)
Post by: LP_LOVER on May 30, 2009, 08:53:34 PM
Please don't put them in the SG.....

 :lol:
Title: Re: New band, new pickup?.....(high gain stuff)
Post by: AdamB on May 30, 2009, 09:33:29 PM
I only have SG's!
Title: Re: New band, new pickup?.....(high gain stuff)
Post by: sebby123 on June 01, 2009, 06:41:43 PM
Cold's sweats are amazing!
Title: Re: New band, new pickup?.....(high gain stuff)
Post by: AdamB on June 02, 2009, 09:43:46 AM
I'm hoping they might come today!
Title: Re: New band, new pickup?.....(high gain stuff)
Post by: Dr. Vic on June 02, 2009, 03:54:02 PM
Let us know how great you found them !  :good:
Title: Re: New band, new pickup?.....(high gain stuff)
Post by: dheim on June 04, 2009, 08:34:50 AM
excellent choice... my SG61 likes very much the CS set :)... a great match.
Title: Re: New band, new pickup?.....(high gain stuff)
Post by: AdamB on June 04, 2009, 08:42:09 AM
I'm picking them up from the post office this morning!
Title: Re: New band, new pickup?.....(high gain stuff)
Post by: AdamB on June 04, 2009, 11:23:17 AM
Picked up and installed!

Practice tomorrow! :D