Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Players => Topic started by: Nolly on May 28, 2009, 08:48:17 PM
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Hi,
I figured I'd have a go recreating one of my favourite guitar tones, that of Andy Timmons' album Resolution, using my Axe-FX. I learned the opening riffs of the first song on the album, Deliver Us back when it first came out, so I quickly relearned and recorded them (pretty sloppy and ever so slightly out of tune) and this was the result:
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/790683/ATB%20Deliver%20Us%2C%20AxeFX.mp3
It's not dead on, but consider that the drum and bass sounds are different as well. I don't think it would take much further tweaking to nail.
The guitar used was my Nathan Sheppard NSG25, with it's BKP Knuckleduster set (I used the bridge pickup in humbucking mode for this clip):
(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh76/Nollythegreat/Guitar%20stuff/Nathan%20Sheppard/HPIM0691.jpg)
There is minimal post-eq on the guitar track, but it's nothing that couldn't be done on the graphic or parametric eq stages on the Axe-FX itself.
Cheers!
Nolly
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I've not heard the original but that sounds pretty good to me
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Thanks mate! The song can be played on Andy's website: www.andytimmons.com :)
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I've already may have said that but I find this guitar really stunning ! (it has a little something to do with the shape of the Fly guitar...to me...)
And that flamed top is A KILLER ! :snipe:
Nolly you are a lucky guy ! Didn't know Tim was able to do that pickup shape for the bridge position though.
Anyway back to topic : very good sounding and playing. Nice inspiration ! 8)
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I've already may have said that but I find this guitar really stunning ! (it has a little something to do with the shape of the Fly guitar...to me...)
And that flamed top is A KILLER ! :snipe:
Nolly you are a lucky guy ! Didn't know Tim was able to do that pickup shape for the bridge position though.
Anyway back to topic : very good sounding and playing. Nice inspiration ! 8)
Thank you man!
I agree, there is something of a Parker Fly in the shape. The top is 5A I believe. I love this guitar, I am lucky indeed :D
The pickups are actually two sets of tele pickups stuck together to make humbuckers.
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the playing is very close.. I bought this album the day it came out.
the tone for me is absolutely light years away from the real deal though it's too much low mids, theres none of that magic marshall high mid content, and the harmonic overtones timmons has on this cd are just unreal and there is none of that in your recording..
but then again it's a digital box so what do u expect? im impressed eitherway but no dice for me.
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the playing is very close.. I bought this album the day it came out.
the tone for me is absolutely light years away from the real deal though it's too much low mids, theres none of that magic marshall high mid content, and the harmonic overtones timmons has on this cd are just unreal and there is none of that in your recording..
but then again it's a digital box so what do u expect? im impressed eitherway but no dice for me.
Interesting, thanks for that. I agree the low mids are perhaps a bit too over-present. I'm going to try redoing it with some changes, I'd be interested to hear your thoughts.
EDIT: the link should now be to a new version, with a slightly different and more Marshall-y tone. Playing is worse this time though.
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A little update:
Someone on the Fractal forum sent Andy an email linking the clip to ask his opinion, and got this response:
<Hey Chris,
<Thanks for sending the clip.
<Wow...not bad!! Larry Mitchell had told me about this system.
<I need to check it out someday.
<Thanks again,
<Andy Timmons
Pretty cool huh?
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I am a massive Andy Timmons fan, particularly his more current tones. I have no idea how he gets the sound he does out of his Lonestar.... I can't get it out of mine :?
Anyway, the playing is really sweet, more gain than Andy though. Have you seen him play this live, he make it look far too easy! Theres also some really good clips of him playing with Simon Philips back when he used Laney amps. Think it was the Ibanez 90th Party
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I love your guitar too, you cant beat hand made British guitars.
Check mine out, its the Custom (image that opens the site) on www.vanquishsounds.com
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I am a massive Andy Timmons fan, particularly his more current tones. I have no idea how he gets the sound he does out of his Lonestar.... I can't get it out of mine :?
Anyway, the playing is really sweet, more gain than Andy though. Have you seen him play this live, he make it look far too easy! Theres also some really good clips of him playing with Simon Philips back when he used Laney amps. Think it was the Ibanez 90th Party
Well his Mesa's are just his live rig, he's using ye oldé marshalls on the studio stuff mostly, a super bass and something else.
I really don't like his live tone with the Mesa's... he was much better with the Laney! far too muddy these days, at least from what I've heard.
Anyway well done nolly, it sounds great! absolutely love timmons, he's the man. I'd be psyched to get a thumbs up from him!
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Hi,
Im new here and interested in Bare Knuckle pickups.....very very nice !!!!....Can you tell me what set this is exactly, I dont see it listed ??? Is is a custom ???
Cheers !!!
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Sounds damn good!
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Thanks guys!
Hi,
Im new here and interested in Bare Knuckle pickups.....very very nice !!!!....Can you tell me what set this is exactly, I dont see it listed ??? Is is a custom ???
Cheers !!!
Yes, the Knuckledusters are custom made for Nathan's guitars, though I'm sure Tim could knock a set up for you if you wanted. The reason why they're not standard models is because you couldn't retrofit them into a guitar - the routing has to be done specifically. Here's what Tim wrote about them on this forum a while back:
What we did for Nathan Sheppard was in effect combine two sets of Tele pickups together to form an extremely versatile humbucker set.
One pair of pickups was stock polarity and wind , the other RWRP, so when wired in series each pair is a true humbucker, when split you get real single coils.
The Guitarist verdict was the guitar was worth buying for the pickups alone and the first time anyone had convincingly got the tone of both a LP and a Tele from one instrument.
The bridge unit is angled like a Tele bridge so requires a considerable route whereas the neck is more akin to a mini humbucker, a touch bigger maybe.
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I wouldn't say they're PAFish, there's too much power on tap for a real PAF but it is a huge humbucking tone and genuine Tele all rolled into one.
As for inclusion into our range, I not sure because they are very specialist and would need custom routing to be fitted.
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That sounded great Nolly and that guitar is gorgeous as well. First thing I thought of when I saw it was a Fly.
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This has seriously gotten me thinking, I wanted to build a parts-tele or buy a cheapie and mess it/mod it up.
But I wanted it to be... different.
Can't help but wonder if it'd work.
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This has seriously gotten me thinking, I wanted to build a parts-tele or buy a cheapie and mess it/mod it up.
But I wanted it to be... different.
Can't help but wonder if it'd work.
Can't see why it wouldn't. Maybe even a strat with the big swimming pool routing, then a custom pickguard?
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This has seriously gotten me thinking, I wanted to build a parts-tele or buy a cheapie and mess it/mod it up.
But I wanted it to be... different.
Can't help but wonder if it'd work.
Can't see why it wouldn't. Maybe even a strat with the big swimming pool routing, then a custom pickguard?
Yeah that's what I'm thinking right now... anything with a scratch plate...
Hmm...
Though right now I'm really happy with the 5 way rotary on the PRS, finally got a great sound out of it!... thanks to line 6... can't believe I just said that....
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Cool, They're pretty unique sounding pickups and certainly versatile enough to warrant trying. I'd be interested to hear your thoughts if you do do it :)
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Excellent Nolly, by far the best clip i have heard on here in a while. A credit to bareknuckles m8
Martin
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Cheers Martin, much appreciated!