Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
At The Back => Time Out => Topic started by: murraymurray on June 25, 2009, 11:14:02 PM
-
I just read an unconfirmed report that he died of a heart attack? any one else heard this?
or is it just a rumour, like the time i tried to convince people jon bon jovi had dies in a freak forklift accident.
-
Interesting... I think we'll have to wait a while to know for sure.
Very sad if true!
-
thinks its a rumour.
well, its aint been on BBC news 24 yet!
he is in hospital though with no news on his condition
-
The BBC are saying he's been rushed to hospital after suffering a suspected cardiac arrest.
-
I read it on a news site, but its a new zealand news site so may not be the most reliable. ill go check wikipedia for proof, i hear that where reporters get all theyre info from these days :?
maybe hes just trying to get out of his upcoming shows so saying hes dead, he never goes outside anyway so no one will notice that hes actually alive
-
LA Times and Reuters have confirmed he has died.
-
"where were you when jacko died"
go!
im in work. BBC TV Centre
-
Too "Bad" ...
I heard that the paramedics were trying to get his heart to "beat it"....
I wonder if the "kids" will wear animal masks to the funeral?
-
"where were you when jacko died"
go!
im in work. BBC TV Centre
haha
I'm in my room applying for student finance online.
I'm thinking (hoping) its some kind of publicity stunt.
-
In my frontroom, in wiltshire! :(
-
No stunt Tom, it's been confirmed.
-
"where were you when jacko died"
go!
im in work. BBC TV Centre
haha
I'm in my room applying for student finance online.
I'm thinking (hoping) its some kind of publicity stunt.
Death is going a bit far for a publicity stunt, will he spring from the coffin and yell surprise? people will think hes a zombie since he already looks pretty dead.
but i guess hes probably so out of touch with reality that he may think thats hilarious
anyway, I was at work, cruising the internet cos its friday
-
I was out at a Blues Night at local pub. Kinda appropriate I guess...
-
its all over BBC news right now.
-
Death is going a bit far for a publicity stunt, will he spring from the coffin and yell surprise? people will think hes a zombie since he already looks pretty dead.
but i guess hes probably so out of touch with reality that he may think thats hilarious
anyway, I was at work, cruising the internet cos its friday
haha well something out of the Thriller video wouldnt go amiss!
-
I was out at a Blues Night at local pub. Kinda appropriate I guess...
Are you on the internet at a pub?
its all over BBC news right now.
Cool, Im better at breaking news than bbc. I'll add that to my cv
Bit of a shame really, but dude was way past his prime and is just a parody for the last 15 years or so, so maybe its for the best before he got even wierder
-
Anyone else hear the Uri Gellar interview on BBC news 24? Very odd.
-
haha well something out of the Thriller video wouldnt go amiss!
yeah, all part of the stunt.
people will think hes dead until the shows in london are supposed to be on, then he jumps out of a coffin and starts singing thriller. the only flaw in his plan is that everyone will think hes dead so wont go to the arena for the show.
-
They're having a newsflash about it on BBC1 now.
-
I was out at a Blues Night at local pub. Kinda appropriate I guess...
Are you on the internet at a pub?
Just got back and he died a little while ago supposedly......
-
you people know more about me than the bbc bulletins, and im being paid to watch all the bbc output!
-
Confirmed now. Died at 1pm LA time, 9pm UK.
Sad day. The guy was a legend.
-
anybody got any disgusting MJ is dead jokes via texts yet?
you know its only a matter of time
-
anybody got any disgusting MJ is dead jokes via texts yet?
you know its only a matter of time
too tired to come up with any just now. give me an hour and ill see if any come to me
-
anybody got any disgusting MJ is dead jokes via texts yet?
you know its only a matter of time
They started on Facebook already.. Brilliant.
Couldn't stand the scumbag myself.
-
I think he had mental issues because of the way his father treated him as a kid, but I don't think he was a pervert. He appeared to me to be always searching for the childhood he never had.
Very sad.
-
I think he had mental issues because of the way his father treated him as a kid, but I don't think he was a pervert. He appeared to me to be always searching for the childhood he never had.
Very sad.
yeah, im undecided on the whole molestation matter. he was totally screwed in the head it seemed and parents (who were willing to let their children stay at a wierd old mans house) just took advantage of the situation, MJ had some deep pockets and its something that was easier for him to settle out of court with some cash rather than battle against the allegations. ive slept in the same bed as other people before without touching them, its possible he was the same.
but still word recognition on michael jackson still yields the results - child moletor, thriller or nah nah nah nah nah, nah nah nah nah (in the tune of EVH rockin out in beat it)
-
He was a very talented guy, but sometime around the mid '80s (maybe even before) he started to go insane and his family just let it happen. He mutilated himself with plastic surgery, but was never honest enough to admit it. He lived in a giant bloody children's playground. He married a random woman just so she could carry "his" children.
As for the paedo stuff... :( He may, in his mind, have just wanted to find the childhood he never had, but he was a grown man and I believe he was sexually attracted to those little boys, even if he couldn't even recognise it or admit it to himself. Those parents who let their kids stay with him were at best misguided opportunists.... at worst criminally negligent.
It actually used to make me angry, seeing him shuffling around like the Phantom of the Opera, caked in makeup with his plasticine nose, glued on facial hair, that silly wig on his head and a scarf over his face. The papers poked fun but still essentially turned a blind eye to the fact that the guy was COMPLETELY BARKING MAD. If he wasn't a celebrity, he'd have been locked up for his own protection. His family and his lackeys should be ashamed that they did nothing to stop him ending up that way.
-
Quite a shame, was watching it on News 24 :(
Apparently when the paramedics arrived, Michael was very pale.
I'll get my coat!
-
OOOOOWWWWWWWwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww, *cough* .... thud.
Aye thank yew...
-
hahaha. oh dear!
yeah they are interviewing people on bbc news right now saying lets forget the molestation charges and remember him as an eccentric genius. do you reckon they'll say the same thing when gary glitter dies?
-
"do you reckon they'll say the same thing when gary glitter dies?"
Nah. Because "charged" and "convicted" isn't the same thing.
-
On this sad day, especially to those of us of a certain age, I'd like to say...
Don't forget Farrah Fawcett.
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d6/writingplayground/Blog/Decades/Farrah_Fawcett.jpg)(http://cinematicpassions.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/farrah_fawcett.jpg)
-
On this sad day, especially to those of us of a certain age, I'd like to say...
Don't forget Farrah Fawcett.
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d6/writingplayground/Blog/Decades/Farrah_Fawcett.jpg)(http://cinematicpassions.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/farrah_fawcett.jpg)
My childhood wanking material is dying off!
-
"do you reckon they'll say the same thing when gary glitter dies?"
Nah. Because "charged" and "convicted" isn't the same thing.
oh yeah i forgot. well thats totally convinced me M.J. never did anything bad with kids.
-
M.J. never did anything bad with kids.
Bad! get it?
-
M.J. never did anything bad with kids.
Bad! get it?
a smooth criminal gets convicted of nothing mate
-
That's not what I said, man. It's a fact that at the time of writing, he stood innocent in the eyes of the law, with a strong dash of being utterly $%&#ed in the head. Glitter, on the other hand, was caught utterly bang to rights, trousers down, so to speak.
I don't know if he did anything dodgy with children, but surely common sense dictates you don't either. Two acquittals and his parlous mental state does speak to something, though.
-
That's not what I said, man. It's a fact that at the time of writing, he stood innocent in the eyes of the law, with a strong dash of being utterly $%&#ed in the head. Glitter, on the other hand, was caught utterly bang to rights, trousers down, so to speak.
I don't know if he did anything dodgy with children, but surely common sense dictates you don't either. Two acquittals and his parlous mental state does speak to something, though.
nah i was messin. i dont expect anyone to say anything positive about glitter. who is truely terrible both musically and in every other way.
-
Just answer this...
Would YOU have trusted the man to be around your kids?
-
No. Because he was clearly barking, batshite insane.
-
what if he offered you a tonne of cash?
-
No. Because he was clearly barking, batshitee insane.
Fair point...
-
Hope he can get peace now, if there is afterdeath life...
-
I'm looking forward to the juicy details.
My bet is that he overdosed on prescription drugs to get out of the hole he had dug with these O2 gigs.
-
Who will comfort "Blanket" ?
-
My bet is that he overdosed on prescription drugs to get out of the hole he had dug with these O2 gigs.
I am 100% convinced he was never going to do those gigs. He clearly wasn't in any shape to cope. I think it would've been a lookalike doing the dance moves, with Britney Spears style backing tapes for the vocals. After all, his face changed so often could anyone be really sure it was him or not?
Now I think they should just carry on with exactly the same shows and call them "tribute" shows.
-
Who will comfort "Blanket" ?
Hmmm, maybe they'll give him back to his real parents?
-
My bet is that he overdosed on prescription drugs to get out of the hole he had dug with these O2 gigs.
I am 100% convinced he was never going to do those gigs. He clearly wasn't in any shape to cope. I think it would've been a lookalike doing the dance moves, with Britney Spears style backing tapes for the vocals. After all, his face changed so often could anyone be really sure it was him or not?
Now I think they should just carry on with exactly the same shows and call them "tribute" shows.
What made me laugh was that the Managing Director of the O2 was on LBC (london radio station) two days ago denying any and all rumours that MJ would postpone or be a no show.
I also heard that the insurance for these concerts was not up to scratch and required massive risk of O2 (AEG) assets.
-
It could seriously affect The O2 venue
They turned down a lot of gigs to stage that show
Maybe they could persuade AC/DC to play 50 nights instead - or get Prince back
-
or do a jam night.
you just turn up and get to play the 02. for a giggle.
-
everyone on my facebook is on about wacko jacko, they never met the guy!!! why do people get emotionally connected to celebs?
the media will have field day with this like they did with jade goody, may as well call it elvis mk2
-
I've got a few friends selling tickets for the o2 shows now... Anyone interested?
-
I'm looking forward to the juicy details.
My bet is that he overdosed on prescription drugs to get out of the hole he had dug with these O2 gigs.
...Or maybe the realisiation that "Peter Pan" was living inside a 50 year old body was too much for him.
But Jackson's belief that "I am Peter Pan in my heart," his preference for the company of children, his friendship with a chimp, his high-pitched voice and numerous plastic surgeries also earned him critics and the nickname "Wacko Jacko."
..Or perhaps he was trying to get out of being sued by his former publicist http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE54584L20090506 (http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE54584L20090506)
-
Just answer this...
Would YOU have trusted the man to be around your kids?
Well to be honest, I wouldn't trust you, or any other $%&#ing stranger around my kids
If I had any :)
-
I was exhausted from work and I went to bed aware that he was in hospital and during the night got some texts from the USA. All I'd say is RIP Michael.I met him once-can't profess to know him but I am sure plenty will be said about him by those who think they knew him.
-
I think it's sad how many people thing they know him just from what the media shows of him. It's so judgemental. We've heard of his father beating him and such and thus, yes, I'm sure it affected him, he probably was yearning for a childhood that he didn't have hence Neverland.
to the dude earlier saying about backing tracks - I think he's used them tons before, I don't know if he did in his prime but I've seen some youtubes where it was defo backing tracks.
-
Yeah, RIP Michael Jackson. He made some very good records - though none of them are entirely my cup of tea. I remember seeing him on TV when I was little - were they regulars on the Andy Williams show? (Or is that my imagination?)
I suspect he was "show business" through and through, even the way he lived/behaved/thought privately. How old was he when he started? He was very good at it right then, and he's known no other kind of life since.
I haven't got a judgement I feel I can make on all the other stuff - I haven't got enough information, there was too much media and money involved, who knows what to believe? I watched a program about one of his brothers a while back - he seemed to be an ordinary dude who had had a rather "different" lifestyle, so was somewhat "strange" and didn't seem to know it. And every f@cker, who was actually interested, wanted a piece of him... MJ's world must have been even crazier...
I'm not too sure about this "King of Pop" thing though - is he up there on the podium with Elvis and Buddy Holly and the Beatles, etc... I spose he is by default, record sales, etc, but I can't quite see it myself (might be something to do with my age though :lol:)... I can't help feeling, and always have done, that what really made those records (Thriller etc) was the collaborator - and I can't remember his bluddy name!! ... AGH! er... ..was it Quincy Jones?
-
Yep, it was Quincy Jones :)
I would say he was as influential and as truly unique and distinctive as all the greats - Elvis, Buddy Holly, Frank Sinatra, Chuck Berry etc.
One of the all time greatest contributors to music and he produced the best selling album of all time: Thriller. 100million copies worldwide - over twice as many as Back In Black and Bat Out of Hell...
-
Apparently he didn't die of a heart attack...
he had a stroke while in the childrens ward
-
Yeah, RIP Michael Jackson. He made some very good records - though none of them are entirely my cup of tea. I remember seeing him on TV when I was little - were they regulars on the Andy Williams show? (Or is that my imagination?)
Blimey Andy, you are old! :lol: The only thing I can remember about the Andy Williams Show is that every week he'd do some kind of knock knock joke (?) with a bloke in a bear costume.
But yeah, the Jackson Five were on there:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDWHkMM4LRw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDWHkMM4LRw)
-
Goddamn!
I had 4 tickets to go see him. This sucks.
R.I.P. MJ "The King of Pop"
-
Apparently he didn't die of a heart attack...
he had a stroke while in the childrens ward
Nice... :lol:
-
The only thing I can remember about the Andy Williams Show is that every week he'd do some kind of knock knock joke (?) with a bloke in a bear costume.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDWHkMM4LRw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDWHkMM4LRw)
That was the Cookie Monster! :D
-
poor bar-steward...
thriller and bad were really nice records.
or at least i liked them at the time.
-
The only thing I can remember about the Andy Williams Show is that every week he'd do some kind of knock knock joke (?) with a bloke in a bear costume.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDWHkMM4LRw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDWHkMM4LRw)
That was the Cookie Monster! :D
Here he is, at the start of this clip (isn't YouTube great, I haven't seen that for nearly 40 years!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ-uX1rPbpw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ-uX1rPbpw)
-
Despite the controversy, he gave people a hell of lot with his music. I bought Thriller in 1983 on cassette, the production and song performances were miles better than anything else around. I never thought at the time he was capable of what he stood accused of back when all the shiteee hit the fan. He was a victim of manipulation of his vulnerability. All child stars suffer in some way or another when they become adults. I listened to 'Off The Wall' 2 weeks ago and the vocals are fantastic.
Anyway it happens to us all. "Charmone Muthafuker!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_IsJbgZDTw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMN6dNqdDF8&feature=related
-
People can give him as much grief as they want, but nobody will ever be able to contribute to music the way he did, and I think it's a shame that someone as influential as him is completely disregarded as a musician, and is remembered by people by the controversy in the last few years.
Admittedly, he made some bad decisions, and he was by no means 100% sound in the head, but he was by far the greatest performer ever, and I don't think there will ever be anyone with even a 10th of his talent EVER.
-
(http://www.padfoot.plus.com/img/damn.gif)
-
I'm very sad since I heard the news. And it's also a pity to see him go like that... :(
He was a great artist, no one can deny the impact he had on the overall modern pop / rock music.
-
Sad times, I'm going to try and remember him for the good things.
Though really, if someone, anyone, really had 'touched' YOUR child, would you really take a wad of money over seeing him go to jail?
I think not.
-
Though really, if someone, anyone, really had 'touched' YOUR child, would you really take a wad of money over seeing him go to jail?
I think not.
You only have to look in the paper - just about 365 days of the year - to see how little some people care about their kids and what they'll do to them.
-
Very sad news indeed. I remember 'Beat it' from the second back to the future film and it always makes me think of that film when i think of it.
Definatly a huge loss to the music world, its a shame we'll never see what would've happened at those 50 o2 shows.
-
I don't think it's a loss to the music companies. Whoever own the rights to his back catalogue will be rubbing their hands with glee.
Also let's not forget Rob Templeton, Quincy Jones in the list of other people responsible for those very successful songs and albums. Remember he didn't write any of the Motown issued stuff and take a look at the writers credits on the solo albums for yourselves if you don't believe me .
If I remember correctly it was the Bad album forward that he did all the writing/composing. Take a look at the figures that are published for sales and they speak for themselves in my opinion.
Was he talented? No doubt about it. Was he troubled? Again, no doubt about it. Does he have a good team of advisers and lawyers? Yep...
All people seem to care about now is his music. Will we all be so understanding when Gary Glitter snuffs it?
Remembering a person just for one thing is silly in my opinion. You have to look at their life as a whole. I don't see us remembering Hitler for making brown shirts the shirt to wear or for making small black moustaches popular. Do they remember him for his artworks for instance?
-
But yeah, the Jackson Five were on there:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDWHkMM4LRw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDWHkMM4LRw)
Awesome song!
-
I don't see us remembering Hitler for making brown shirts the shirt to wear or for making small black moustaches popular.
i remember him for those black leather coats too, infact... :P
-
I knew Chris Cornell made an unplugged version of Billie Jean. Nevertheless I discovered another live performance which is indeed very nice. This "reshaped" song is a beautiful version.
Smells like a tribute to Michael Jackson :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEg2CIIB12U&feature=related
(only audio on this link :headphones1:)
-
Remembering a person just for one thing is silly in my opinion. You have to look at their life as a whole. I don't see us remembering Hitler for making brown shirts the shirt to wear or for making small black moustaches popular. Do they remember him for his artworks for instance?
Is this a serious comparison?
The man responsible for the systematic slaughter of in excess of ten million people purely for existing and a man who's certainly bizarre but has never actually been convicted of any crime and has had the kid that caused the whole malarky come out and say he was lying?
Really?
As for Gary Glitter, I dunno? But everyone seems to have forgiven Pete Townsend pretty quick. I wonder if he's ever going to release that book? Nobody makes a fuss about Jerry Lee Lewis either come to think of it.
And outwith music, we've got terrorists who became presidents and are loved across the west enough that Del boy lived in places named after them.
I'm kinda getting of the point, but end of the day, plenty folks guilty of heinous crimes are praised, Michael Jackson wasn't ever found guilty of anything, and the poor weirdo's name will be mud forever.