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Title: A lesson in how to make every note matter...
Post by: hunter on July 12, 2009, 05:29:52 PM

... is this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwvoHgABrUA
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Post by: Ratrod on July 12, 2009, 06:32:49 PM
Great vid.

They're playing from their toes, here.
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Post by: AndyR on July 12, 2009, 07:17:10 PM
:D

Yep, got the DVD from the missus a while back.

What they played is so simple, and the tempo of most of the songs means that it could sound SO bad and dirge-like... but in all the live stuff of theirs that I've managed to find, they always seemed to lift it... Studio recordings weren't bad either :lol:, but the live stuff is the most stunning...
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Post by: horsehead on July 12, 2009, 07:35:34 PM
ahh the granada tv recording I Believe? They were and still are too me one of the greatest bands ever,

 I LOVE YOU MR KOSSOFF!

ahem...sorry abut that
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Post by: 38thBeatle on July 12, 2009, 11:02:48 PM
They are a band that I listen to a lot-they leave so much room for each other and had grace and taste. I could listen to them all day. Every bit is carefully pitched to complement the whole.The epitome of groove.
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Post by: Philly Q on July 13, 2009, 01:29:17 AM
Awesome!

I don't think Andy Fraser ever gets enough credit - he co-wrote nearly all the songs and his bass playing is so melodic and interesting.  He was only 18 in that clip!
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Post by: Tellboy on July 13, 2009, 07:13:02 AM
Yes - definitely one of my all time favourite bands. Many of their songs (and individual instrumental parts) were relatively simple but when they played them (particularly live) they seem to give them so much power and emotion.

Agree with you Philly about Andy Fraser.
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Post by: gwEm on July 13, 2009, 10:27:04 AM
excellent hunter
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Post by: indysmith on July 13, 2009, 12:53:08 PM
I actually really like Free. They're one of the only "BKP Forum bands" that I do like.
(by BKP Forum bands, i mean all those bands that everyone on here seems to like, but nobody in real life gives a shite about. Rush for example.)
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Post by: Philly Q on July 13, 2009, 01:04:20 PM
I actually really like Free. They're one of the only "BKP Forum bands" that I do like.
(by BKP Forum bands, i mean all those bands that everyone on here seems to like, but nobody in real life gives a shitee about. Rush for example.)

 :lol:

I say this not in a spirit of aggressive argument, but what do you mean by "nobody in real life"?

I've never heard of any of the bands you like (which isn't to say they may not be great, I just honestly haven't heard of them).
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Post by: indysmith on July 13, 2009, 05:34:00 PM
I actually really like Free. They're one of the only "BKP Forum bands" that I do like.
(by BKP Forum bands, i mean all those bands that everyone on here seems to like, but nobody in real life gives a shiteeee about. Rush for example.)

 :lol:

I say this not in a spirit of aggressive argument, but what do you mean by "nobody in real life"?

I've never heard of any of the bands you like (which isn't to say they may not be great, I just honestly haven't heard of them).
I just meant people I've met, people I know in real life as opposed to on the internet :P
Our having different tastes in music (or at least dramatically different music collections) is to be expected obviously - this is quite a 'mature' forum ( :lol: ), and I'm rather young...
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Post by: Philly Q on July 13, 2009, 06:39:21 PM
Yeah, absolutely, I think it's mostly an age thing.

I believe that things like music, books, and films have the biggest impact when you're in your teens/early 20s.  You can still like loads of new stuff as you get older, but I don't think you ever "connect" with it in quite the same way.   I still like the bands I was into at your age, maybe you'll find the same when you're my age!  :P

Then again, I find, now, that I also like bands from the same period - '70s/early '80s - even if I didn't listen to them at the time.  So maybe it's just that the music from "your own era" somehow reflects the "spirit" of the time it was recorded, and that's what you connect with. 

Ah, I don't know.  :?
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Post by: 38thBeatle on July 13, 2009, 07:50:28 PM
I think you are spot on there Philly. I am far from stuck in a time warp but I do find myself gravitating to the music that I grew up with. Free were one of those bands that meant a great deal to me at the time and they split but their music stayed with me. Actually I also agree with you about Andy Fraser and when I look back, I think that he also had a great deal of influence on me as a bass player-not quite as much as Ronnie Lane (or indeed Roo's mate Macca) but nevertheless it is still there. Another thing about Free was just how young they were when they were turning out soulfull music that had something way beyond their years. That kinda sounds wrong and I don't mean it to. I think of them as old souls. Whilst watching that clip I went on to many others and then lay in bed listening to them on my Ipod. Mike Casswell has just done a Free DVD for Lick Library ( not free to buy obviously) and I think a lot of young players could do with taking in the technique of Koss.   
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Post by: _tom_ on July 14, 2009, 09:59:16 AM
I think you're right Philly. I didnt listen to any of the stuff I "grew up with" (punk/pop punk things like Blink 182, Alkaline Trio, Social Distortion etc) for ages, now I've just started listening to them again and am loving it all over again.

Put Rush on the other day and had to turn it off immediately, wondering why I ever thought it was good music haha

Free are/were awesome though. Kossoff was such a good player.
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Post by: FELINEGUITARS on July 14, 2009, 10:06:44 AM
Awesome!

I don't think Andy Fraser ever gets enough credit - he co-wrote nearly all the songs and his bass playing is so melodic and interesting.  He was only 18 in that clip!

+1

My girlfriend was only 13 when she saw Free live but she was hooked
I agree with the teenage years being the formative ones for taste in music

For me it was early Queen etc and still is to these days
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Post by: hunter on July 14, 2009, 10:10:17 AM
Awesome!

I don't think Andy Fraser ever gets enough credit - he co-wrote nearly all the songs and his bass playing is so melodic and interesting.  He was only 18 in that clip!

+1

My girlfriend was only 13 when she saw Free live but she was hooked
I agree with the teenage years being the formative ones for taste in music

For me it was early Queen etc and still is to these days

At least hairdo wise for sure, Jonathan, you're crowned by the perfect Brian May curls  :D
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Post by: Plexi Ken on July 14, 2009, 11:40:53 AM
Excellent clip, the DVD is worth a watch but most of the songs are played multiple times.
It's quite something to see a great live band really going-for-it.
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Post by: il˙ti on July 14, 2009, 11:05:01 PM

... is this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwvoHgABrUA

Meh. That kind of stuff is fun to play in a band but boring as hell to just listen to.
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Post by: Tellboy on July 15, 2009, 08:54:25 AM
I believe that things like music, books, and films have the biggest impact when you're in your teens/early 20s.  You can still like loads of new stuff as you get older, but I don't think you ever "connect" with it in quite the same way.   I still like the bands I was into at your age, maybe you'll find the same when you're my age!  :P

Then again, I find, now, that I also like bands from the same period - '70s/early '80s - even if I didn't listen to them at the time.  So maybe it's just that the music from "your own era" somehow reflects the "spirit" of the time it was recorded, and that's what you connect with. 

I think you're spot on there Philly. I have developed a reasonably wide appreciation of music styles but it is still the sounds I grew up with that really get me going.
Title: Re: A lesson in how to make every note matter...
Post by: horsehead on July 16, 2009, 06:59:54 AM
but what do you mean by "nobody in real life"?

He means everyone outside of the matrix
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Post by: gingataff on July 16, 2009, 05:34:23 PM
but what do you mean by "nobody in real life"?

but what do you mean by "real life"?
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Post by: Philly Q on July 16, 2009, 05:59:17 PM
Let's not get metaphysical about this.

As Olivia Newton John probably wouldn't say.
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Post by: PhilKing on July 20, 2009, 03:57:27 AM
I saw Free live many times and they were always great.  I also think Andy Fraser is a great bass player and have the Andy Fraser band LP's that came out after Free split.