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Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: James C on July 15, 2009, 10:17:11 PM

Title: A little help, if you wouldn't mind
Post by: James C on July 15, 2009, 10:17:11 PM
Good Evening (or morning/afternoon wherever you may be)

I've just traded my strat in for a Flying V after coming to the realisation that i'm not really a blueser anymore.

Played the V through my rig at band practice
(Guitar--->TU-2--->Crybaby--->MXR GT-OD---> Volume Pedal ---> Bogner Alchemist Head and Cab)

and have come to the conclusion that the 490R and 498T (or 500T) are pretty sh1t for what i need.

I'm after a smooth Thrash/Metal Rhythm sound in the vein of Arch Enemy, Testament, Dream Theater, Nevermore, Machinehead, Iron Maiden + Iced Earth that can also handle Alterbridge style Hard Rock with a fat and smooth lead sound a la Alex Skolnick/Dave Murray/John Petrucci/Michael Romeo/John Sykes from the Neck p/up

Cleans are really good on the Bogner, but i'm only really doing arpeggiated chords with no breakup, so not looking for a classic rock clean or crunch.

The V is Mahogany Body+Neck with Rosewood Board, bass is a little woolly an indistinct so i'm leaning towards the Miracle Man set.

Your Opinions Please......
Title: Re: A little help, if you wouldn't mind
Post by: ericsabbath on July 16, 2009, 08:52:24 AM
whoa that's a lot of stuff and through a completely different amp
Arch Enemy = mostly Duncan JB + Peavey 5150/XXX/JSX
Testament = JB and EMG81 + Marshall and Fender EVH
Nevermore = EMG707 + Mesa/Krank/ENGL
Iced Earth = alnico 5 hot pafs + Larry Dino
Alter Bridge = PRS tremonti (used to be a Gibson 500t) + Mesa/Bogner/Orange
Machine head = EMG 81 + Peavey 5150


the Miracle Man is definitely the Best for MH and Nevermore, but you have a completely different flavoured amp
not sure how it would react to the huge amount of bass of the miracle man in a Gibson V
maybe the cold sweat would be a safer choice
I guess the painkiller would be midrange overkill, but that wouldn't be a problem for me  :D
Title: Re: A little help, if you wouldn't mind
Post by: James C on July 16, 2009, 08:57:29 AM
As far as the Amp goes, It's not got ridiculous amounts of gain, the 6L6's give it a good crunch and seem quite smooth to me - gain levels approach Iron Maiden levels, so i was thinking MM to give it a push and to stay smooth.

apologies for the essay, just making sure i don't leave anything out.

My main priority is a tight, thick rhythm sound which emphasizes pinch harmonics really well. I only have experience of the MM, NB and Crawler and want to move away from the NB as i have them in two guitars already.

Mids aren't a problem for me, i tend not to scoop them on the amp, which is why i probably like the MM, it seemed to have the right amount of scoop in my les paul.
Title: Re: A little help, if you wouldn't mind
Post by: hunter on July 16, 2009, 09:13:59 AM
I've just traded my strat in for a Flying V after coming to the realisation that i'm not really a blueser anymore.

Oh, I always thought a V is a blues guitar?

(http://vintageguitars.org.uk/graphics/albert-king-FLYING-V.jpg)

 :D
Title: Re: A little help, if you wouldn't mind
Post by: James C on July 16, 2009, 09:26:09 AM
I did have a run through Red House at band practice last night, :oops:
Title: Re: A little help, if you wouldn't mind
Post by: Ivan on July 16, 2009, 10:46:20 AM
that is a lot of music for one set of pickups.

Maybe try Painkillers first for the super tightness and and the high output. Also the lower mids of them in a mahogany guitar will give you a very thick sound.

Title: Re: A little help, if you wouldn't mind
Post by: MDV on July 16, 2009, 02:58:11 PM
Frankly if thats what youre playing, that isnt the amp I'd be using

But if you must, then for smooth high gain tone, miracle man.
Title: Re: A little help, if you wouldn't mind
Post by: James C on July 16, 2009, 04:30:03 PM
Tim has suggested Cold Sweat Set, or a MM/CS set should i want more power.

As far as the bogner goes, its not got Uber-Gain but does have more than enough gain for metal (more saturated than a JCM800 and a lot of headroom for a 40w head) and handles a 7 string really well.

Title: Re: A little help, if you wouldn't mind
Post by: sebby123 on July 18, 2009, 06:41:35 PM
Tim has suggested Cold Sweat Set, or a MM/CS set should i want more power.

As far as the bogner goes, its not got Uber-Gain but does have more than enough gain for metal (more saturated than a JCM800 and a lot of headroom for a 40w head) and handles a 7 string really well.



Cold Sweats are the way to go with mahogany btw your les paul isnt mid-scooped or dark its just pushing alot of Low-mids which gives it that sound.