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Forum Ringside => Tech => Topic started by: gwEm on July 22, 2009, 01:11:54 AM

Title: nice diagram showing tele 4way switch
Post by: gwEm on July 22, 2009, 01:11:54 AM
(http://terrydownsmusic.com/Archive/4-way_tele_switch_animated.gif)

thought this was a pretty good explanation

edit: in case you hadn't noticed its an animated gif ;)
Title: Re: nice diagram showing tele 4way switch
Post by: Tellboy on July 22, 2009, 10:42:54 AM
Very useful gwEm - wish it looked as obvious under the control plate  :? :?

I bet 38thBeatle will have an orgasm when he sees that :D
Title: Re: nice diagram showing tele 4way switch
Post by: gwEm on July 22, 2009, 10:50:30 AM
Very useful gwEm - wish it looked as obvious under the control plate  :? :?
indeed, but most of the diagrams showing the physical switch layout as it looks in reality don't really explain how it works. once you've seen it like this, you can also wire the switch so any of the 4 positions correspond to any of bridge/series/parallel/neck.

normally how its drawn is that the top end position is the series setting, which i don't like since it is harder to get to the neck only position.

when you see the 4 way switch, is easy enough to map that diagram into real connections.

I bet 38thBeatle will have an orgasm when he sees that :D

:)


edit: for spelling
Title: Re: nice diagram showing tele 4way switch
Post by: Philly Q on July 22, 2009, 12:27:47 PM
Very useful gwEm - wish it looked as obvious under the control plate  :? :?
indeed, but most of the diagrams showing the physical switch layout as it looks in reality don't really explain how it works. once you've seen it like this, you can also wire the switch so any of the 4 positions correspond to any of bridge/series/parallel/neck.

normally how its drawn is that the top end position is the series setting, which i don't like since it is harder to get to the neck only position.

when you see the 4 way which, is easy enough to map that diagram into real connections.

Haha, it's "easy" if you can understand those schematic diagrams!  I have a bit of a mental block about them, I need a drawing that looks like an actual switch.
Title: Re: nice diagram showing tele 4way switch
Post by: WezV on July 22, 2009, 02:27:33 PM
now what i need is one of those for a 6-way rotary switch and the crazy wiring i have in my personal guitar... it made sense when i drew it out and seems to work really well, but i couldnt tell you whats going on :)
Title: Re: nice diagram showing tele 4way switch
Post by: _tom_ on July 22, 2009, 03:53:25 PM
Haha, it's "easy" if you can understand those schematic diagrams!  I have a bit of a mental block about them, I need a drawing that looks like an actual switch.

Me too, I dont understand proper electrics at all :?
Title: Re: nice diagram showing tele 4way switch
Post by: 38thBeatle on July 22, 2009, 07:09:08 PM
I bet 38thBeatle will have an orgasm when he sees that

No I have had my quota for this week, I shall look again at the weekend though( brace yourself Mrs 38th).
Title: Re: nice diagram showing tele 4way switch
Post by: JDC on July 23, 2009, 06:15:08 AM
cheers, saved that to my guitar stuff folder for future reference, what was the difference in sound between parallel and series?

now if only there was a diagram with coil splitting
Title: Re: nice diagram showing tele 4way switch
Post by: AndyR on July 24, 2009, 01:55:41 PM
That's quite interesting (and the replies).

I looked at this the other day and kinda agreed with Philly. But I've actually sat through it doing it's animation this lunch time, and it is VERY clear to me now.

Only one problem - my three 4-ways are wired so they go Bridge-Both(Parallel)-Neck-Both(Series)

That's how the Fender Baja arrives, and that's how I've done two more since (after much phaffing each time!!).

I really wouldn't want the series and parallel positions in the middle of the switch - I find it's much more useful having the more powerful series option on the end after the neck. It enables me to treat it like a standard three-way with an extra option past the neck :D

Oh yeah, JDC, parallel is the "standard" tele middle sound - there's nothing quite like it, you either love it or hate it. The series sounds much more like "add the bridge and neck together", it's fat and biting all at the same time - you can "hear" both pickups' contribution to the tone. I like having it there, but I don't use it a lot.