Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
At The Back => Time Out => Topic started by: Dmoney on July 22, 2009, 02:26:43 PM
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so, i had a go messing with basket weave from zilla music, and my Uber. I did this today!
bit messy but overall its not bad at all! im pleased!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v174/xtattybobx/000_0821.jpg?t=1248269092)
Its a good look
waiting for some V30's so i can work on my other cab.
bonus!
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I dont remember what it was like before.
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Dude, white knobs, basket front?
You just want the original, don't you :O)
Edit: It does look pretty nice though.
However I just love the Black in Black look, with the active channel lighting up, looks class.
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I like that, although I can't remember what it looked like before, you got a comparison pic?
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Ah I found his original picture.
http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=17750.0
I prefer the before picture though.
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Looks way better now imo, I love the beige bogner look :)
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Looks way better now imo, I love the beige bogner look :)
+1 Good work!
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Ah I found his original picture.
Thanks Jonny :)
I prefer the after picture! Nice work Dmoney.
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Ah I found his original picture.
Thanks Jonny :)
I prefer the after picture! Nice work Dmoney.
+1 nice touch!
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nice work, I prefer the cane basketweave too.
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Thanks all!
I got some more cane weave to spruce up my other 4x12, that isnt orange, and Twinfan is selling me some V30's to stick in that. I won't put metal handles on it or anything i don't think (unless some has some spare) and i'm going to rewire it with heavier guage wire and stuff. probably for 16ohm mono.
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Before...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v174/xtattybobx/000_0824.jpg)
Reemed out the switch hole and put an extra jack in for hard wiring and removal of PCB
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v174/xtattybobx/000_0822.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v174/xtattybobx/000_0823.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v174/xtattybobx/000_0827.jpg)
Dacron backing...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v174/xtattybobx/000_0829.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v174/xtattybobx/000_0831.jpg)
FINISHED!
has Twinfan's old V30's and my G12T-75's in the old X pattern. just like my other cab. although my other cab sounds more bassy than this one does... not sure why? looks cool though!
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The cane basketweave looks really smart - I used to have a purple Marshall JCM800 1/2 stack that used cane too. My mate has that rig now (made me an offer I couldn't refuse, not in the Sicilian way though, ha ha).
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That rocks. 8)
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How much difference did the foam on the back panel make?
I know it should (in theory) make the the cab appear bigger internally due to breaking up the waveforms inside the cab.
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its got a pretty hefty bass response.
well, i realised i had once pair of speakers out of phase, once i corrected that it sounds just like my other cab.
When i did my other cab, i compared it to the stock jcm900 1960a that this cab used to be. I remember that it did sound better, but at the same time i had done all the above, i also had the V30's in there, un-broken in. So it probably wasnt an accurate test.
there isn't much stuff on the back, about 30mm deep dacron i got in a 1Mx1M sheet off ebay. doesnt cost much to try it out.
This cab seems to be built a bit nicer than my other cab. weird! both identical marshall cabs. in theory.
Also, i think taking the center support out between back and baffle effects the bass response a little
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Taking out the centre post between the baffle and back should make the bass end less punchy imo. With the centre post removed, the back will flex like a diaphragm. With the centre post installed, the back should move very little and the cab should be a little punchier.
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Its not night and day though and I used to gig a 4x12 with no centre post that sounded fantastic - in fact, it was the best 4x12 I'd ever owned. When I swapped it with my mate for his 4x12 + cash my way, I noticed the difference immediately - my old cab was MUCH better. I think it was mainly because my cab was an old and WELL used JCM800 cab while his was a new vintage RI cab. My old cab had a solid ply back panel too (I replaced it), while the RI cab had (still has) a particle board back panel. I'll have to get a solid ply back panel for it at some point - gives the cab more focus in the bass end (crisper).
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interestingly, Orange cabs have a centre support that isnt attached to the back, it just rests on the back.
Maybe that is different again if you have the fibre on the back and without the fibre, and with the back panel flexing, reflections are going to differ a lot than if you did have the fibre in there.
Im sure the back on the black cab may have been ply. i remember thinking about that because the other back panel on the orange cab was is particle board, and the hole for the inputs i the back wasn't enlarge well (leveled) for the steel input plate. I wondered if zilla music had give me another back panel, but i doubt it.
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That looks great.
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Bogner cabs don't have the centre support screwed in neither
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maybe its just a strength thing.
I imagine with it screwed in you're carrying vibrations from the baffle to the back. with it in but not screwed down, id imagine the back flexes a little like described earlier, i don't know if you'd get noise from the batton vibrating against the back, but it would still add strength to the baffle. spread the load of the speakers being supported by it.
im speculating