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At The Back => Time Out => Topic started by: CaptainDesslock on July 29, 2009, 05:25:07 AM
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Soo....
trying to learn some blues and my book says "by this time, you should be immersing yourself in classic blues recordings," so just what is that?
When I think of blues, I like teh hard rocking blues like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIvs4j4IniA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIvs4j4IniA)
or this- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUXX5HnBjx4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUXX5HnBjx4)
NOT THIS:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gkTF-vZ_bM#watch-main-area (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gkTF-vZ_bM#watch-main-area)
while were at it......I need some some rock with a good beat for jogging, foo fighters, guns 'n roses, ect....any recommendations?
man I feel like i abuse this forum sometimes :)
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Well if you are talking about the real classics, i.e. the early blues artists then it has to be the likes of Robert Johnson, Son House, Lowell Fulsom and many others or you could go for T Bone Walker, Muddy Waters, B B King, Albert King, Freddie King and Billy Jean King ....I was joking about the last one. I would say rather than religiously working your way through them that you perhaps get a traditional blues compilation or two and see if it speaks to you whilst taking in the atmosphere.
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IMO Clapton and Mayer are great guitarists but lousy blues players.
Like 38th said, look into Muddy Waters, Robert Johnson, BB King, Albert King etc.
Also look into the early dawn of rockabilly like 'Mystery Train', 'My baby Left Me', 'That's Allright Mama' etc.
elvis made those songs famous. It's blues with a train beat.
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Blue Jean Blues is one of my favourite blues stylee songs. Great tone and phrasing from BFG.
I don't have many 'old' blues albums but do have Midnight Special (a collection of Leadbelly recordings.) Obviously very scratchy sounding but some decent tunes in there. Also pretty depressing (listen to TB Blues and I'm on my last go round).
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I can't stand the blues, so I'm not gonna comment on that.
However when I go running i listen to some alkaline trio, jetplane landing, iron maiden, sucioperro and some old Idlewild songs (modern way of letting go by idlewild is my 'power on to the finish' song)
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Muddy Waters invented electricity
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If you want blues with lots of classic authenticity to it, but with a rock edge then you can do far worse than johnny winter and, especially, rory gallacher. Of course, SRV, but I assume you knew that already, robben ford, derrek trucks and warren haynes, too.
If you dont like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UauECrCIYl8
Then I wonder what youre listening to blues for? Just stick to blues-based rock (which aint the same thing). (Though its not 'classic' - you cant hear the crickets in the cotton fields, its blues to its core).
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Well for electric blues get the 1st peter green's fleetwood mac album
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listen to Ry Cooder
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Good shout, elliot
I have the Fleetwood mac Jumping at shadows/the blues years, which may as well be called the peter green years, and it rules.
Dont know ry cooder myself, will have to check it out.
Indigenous should provide some entertainment for rocky-blues.
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What about Free?
Blues Rock but If you learn to play like Koss you'll have covered most blues techniques down pretty well.
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I would say rather than religiously working your way through them that you perhaps get a traditional blues compilation or two and see if it speaks to you whilst taking in the atmosphere.
agreed. there's this prevailing mindset among the real die-hard bluesers that you can't play the blues unless you've been listening to nothing else for 15 years, and preferably have been homeless and destitute for some of that time too (even more preferably in the deep south of the USA). Some kind of disability appears to be useful too. Anyway, my point is, that's fair enough if you want to make blues your life, but if you just want to play a bit of it, you don't need to go into it in that depth (those bluesers would tell a metaller to eff-off if he/she told the blueser that to play metal you had to do a similar thing to what they claim you have to do to play blues). There's nothing wrong with wanting to play a wide range of stuff, if you ask me.
EDIT: looking at the links you listed, and not to sound like one of the die-hard bluesers I just complained about, that sounds more like blues rock. I'd have called the one you said wasn't heavy enough blues rock too!
Look into those ones MDV listed, most likely. :)
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I would say rather than religiously working your way through them that you perhaps get a traditional blues compilation or two and see if it speaks to you whilst taking in the atmosphere.
agreed. there's this prevailing mindset among the real die-hard bluesers that you can't play the blues unless you've been listening to nothing else for 15 years, and preferably have been homeless and destitute for some of that time too (even more preferably in the deep south of the USA). Some kind of disability appears to be useful too. Anyway, my point is, that's fair enough if you want to make blues your life, but if you just want to play a bit of it, you don't need to go into it in that depth (those bluesers would tell a metaller to eff-off if he/she told the blueser that to play metal you had to do a similar thing to what they claim you have to do to play blues). There's nothing wrong with wanting to play a wide range of stuff, if you ask me.
EDIT: looking at the links you listed, and not to sound like one of the die-hard bluesers I just complained about, that sounds more like blues rock. I'd have called the one you said wasn't heavy enough blues rock too!
Look into those ones MDV listed, most likely. :)
lol, well I rather dislike Mayer (just strikes me as a w**ker) so when I think of how I don't want to sound like he just pops in my head
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reading this topic from the beginning I think you should experiment something like that :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAbbWAEGFlw
:twisted:
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haha, no worries
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Need some blues...help!
Start with the basics: you'll need your old lady to leave you. She'll need to take the dog too.
Sorry, couldn't help myself. :)
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I know its a cliche, but you've got to go back to the source and soak up what touches you. Here's some of my fave old time blues guys...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX9UG8rqRRQ (Hound Dog Taylor)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TwEYuues6Y&feature=fvw (Howlin Wolf)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jN5vqEyV7g&feature=related (Son House)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Inq5UNsqZYc&feature=related (always liked this unbacked vocal by Son House too)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5dpp2iCRwM (Albert King)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgHQalqG6E8 (and of course my all time fave, Muddy Waters)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioznZMpyZOI (Little Walter)
I mostly like the Chicago Blues stuff, but the stuff I've posted above are all stellar performances.
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I know its a cliche, but you've got to go back to the source and soak up what touches you. Here's some of my fave old time blues guys...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX9UG8rqRRQ (Hound Dog Taylor)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TwEYuues6Y&feature=fvw (Howlin Wolf)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jN5vqEyV7g&feature=related (Son House)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Inq5UNsqZYc&feature=related (always liked this unbacked vocal by Son House too)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5dpp2iCRwM (Albert King)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgHQalqG6E8 (and of course my all time fave, Muddy Waters)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioznZMpyZOI (Little Walter)
I mostly like the Chicago Blues stuff, but the stuff I've posted above are all stellar performances.
This is actually really cool cause the lesson I just worked the author wrote as a Muddy Waters-esque blues thingy so that really help thanks :)
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can't believe no ones mentioned zz top for the hard rockin blues..
enjoyed that motorhead clip, whoever posted that ;)
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I know its a cliche, but you've got to go back to the source and soak up what touches you. Here's some of my fave old time blues guys...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX9UG8rqRRQ (Hound Dog Taylor)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TwEYuues6Y&feature=fvw (Howlin Wolf)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jN5vqEyV7g&feature=related (Son House)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Inq5UNsqZYc&feature=related (always liked this unbacked vocal by Son House too)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5dpp2iCRwM (Albert King)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgHQalqG6E8 (and of course my all time fave, Muddy Waters)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioznZMpyZOI (Little Walter)
I mostly like the Chicago Blues stuff, but the stuff I've posted above are all stellar performances.
This is actually really cool cause the lesson I just worked the author wrote as a Muddy Waters-esque blues thingy so that really help thanks :)
Get a CD called 'The Real Folk Blues' if you want the best Muddy Waters stuff - thats a fantastic CD. Amazon have it and it's not expensive either, cheaper than a chart CD.
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For some really wild guitar playing try early Johnny "Guitar" Watson and Guitar Slim.
If you can find any, checkout the Cobra Records recordings of Buddy Guy, Otis Rush and Magic Sam.
The Buddy Guy chess recordings are great too.
The Albert King Stax recordings are great, as is anything by Freddie King.
These guys really helped to define modern electric guitar playing.
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can't believe no ones mentioned zz top for the hard rockin blues..
I was highly tempted to throw one in there ! :mrgreen:
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Howlin' Wolf and Elmore James are heavier and more rocking than a lot of "rock" or heavy metal groups, IMO.
Back to that eternal-never-ending-old-fashioned-off-topic-debate... :roll:
Some "rock" or "heavy metal" band may be also heavier and more rocking than the previously named, depending on what you call heavier and rocking, I suppose. :mrgreen:
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For blues-rock I would strongly recommend listening to some Rory Gallagher. He is my favourite blues artist and my favourite guitarist.
I would also recommend B.B. King, Howlin' Wolf, Buddy Guy, ZZ Top, Eric Clapton and of course Robert Johnson (the grandfather of blues music)
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yo,
thoought id mention...
Paul Lamb & The King Snakes,
Nine Below Zero,
The Blues Band (anybody remember paul jones in the kiddies TV show 'uncle jack'? i think thats what it was called)
its probably also worth mentioning Woodie Guthrie, although he's possibly more folk, but still cool.
again, Ry Cooder... Ive also seen Taj Mahal do some good stuff, Connie Lush has a good band, Eric Bibb is a good guitarist! apparently a guitar he has was made from a tree that was struck by lightening! cool story. Catfish Keith is also cool as heck/
go to Colne Rhythm and Blues Festival, and if it still happens, the Blue fest in Burnley.
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+1 Howlin' Wolf
+1 Eric Clapton (especially The Beano album)
+1 Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac
I know that you're after some older blues music, but in case you're interested, this blues/rock band has been getting very prominant in Western Australia lately,
Abbe May & The Rockin' Pneumonia
http://www.myspace.com/abbefuzz (http://www.myspace.com/abbefuzz)
You won't be disapointed.