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Title: Please help me to choose pickups for my SG
Post by: emotionsclot on July 29, 2009, 12:01:06 PM
Comrades,

Please help me to choose set of covered humbackers for my Gibson SG Standart. I want to replace my stock 490/498, because want to try something else for comporison with Gibsons, and my friends recommend me Bare Knuckles, but I lose one's way in variety of this PUps. I like the term "Vintage hot". And want to have rich, full, with a bit of sparkle, sound from my set, without "icepicks" and bassy buzz in neck. More velvet and brilliance in neck and thick, meaty, but not too agressive (like rails or simmilar) in bridge. After shielding of my guitar  PDT_038 it sounds very thin and without any meat in sound, with a lot of highs. I want to redo shielding and change pickups. What set you can advise me?

Thanks in advance.

P.S. Sorry for my english, I'm from Saint-Petersburg, Russia  :)
Title: Re: Please help me to choose pickups for my SG
Post by: Twinfan on July 29, 2009, 12:03:15 PM
Alnico V Mules may suit you well?
Title: Re: Please help me to choose pickups for my SG
Post by: MDV on July 29, 2009, 12:07:07 PM
"Comrades"....and actually from russia! Fantastic.

Welcome to the board, comrade!

I dont know what pickups you should get. I only really know the metal ones. Though crawlers would do what you want, I dont know if they'd do it the best.

P.S. Your english is better than our russian :)
Title: Re: Please help me to choose pickups for my SG
Post by: dheim on July 29, 2009, 02:09:27 PM
hello, tovaritch! :)

i've got some small experience with SGs... an SG61 that tuned out simply perfect with a set of Cold Sweats, and an SG like guitar that sounded quite bad with Holy Divers and now found its heaven with Rebel Yells... they're all contemporary pickups but, in my opinion, live on the lower edge of their category... in particular i think you'll love the RYs... but from what i know (no personal experience, though), Black Dogs could fit you needs even better.
Title: Re: Please help me to choose pickups for my SG
Post by: emotionsclot on July 29, 2009, 02:24:16 PM
"Comrades," it's just a joke, but I'm glad to see that you like it  :lol:

Thak you for your answers and I want to ask you: what you think about Black Dog set or Mule in Neck and Black Dog in bridge?

Rebell Yell Set I have an eye too, but want to take more opinions.
Title: Re: Please help me to choose pickups for my SG
Post by: dheim on July 29, 2009, 02:46:45 PM
Thak you for your answers and I want to ask you: what you think about Black Dog set or Mule in Neck and Black Dog in bridge?

neck mule is awesome, bright, clear and articulate. and it's more or less what you're looking for. (RY neck is similar, just hotter and a bit smoother)
black dog bridge should be meatier and bassier than the mule, so a correct choice - judging from what you said about your tone requirements...
Title: Re: Please help me to choose pickups for my SG
Post by: Dr. Vic on July 29, 2009, 02:53:35 PM
Welcome to this nice place Comrade !

what you think about Black Dog set or Mule in Neck and Black Dog in bridge?

Da !
This combo is going to work in both power AND voicing : it's a good choice !

I think many options are going to satisfy you : Mule, Abraxas, Emerald, crawler are designed with an alnico IV magnet in the neck position which is a pure vintage heaven ! (the ones I prefer !)
 
those calibrated set are excellent as well as the Black Dog -  Mule combo you are considering.

And Dheim is right I also tried an SG with a RY set : it was one killer tone !

cheers !   :drink:
Title: Re: Please help me to choose pickups for my SG
Post by: MrPring on July 29, 2009, 05:05:38 PM
I have rebel yells in my sg, theyre good but not as good compared to the PRS singlecut they were in before.

 :(
Title: Re: Please help me to choose pickups for my SG
Post by: Chris Rowberry on July 29, 2009, 09:41:58 PM
Hey, I have recently been on the baileys Build your own guitar course and built me an SG style guitar. i made myself some Mississippi Queen humbucker sized P90s to fit in it.

They sound fantastic in SG style guitars! I am able to play anything from blues to ACDC kind of stuff.

Quote( After shielding of my guitar  PDT_038 it sounds very thin and without any meat in sound)

The Mississippi Queens are wound with a 42 gauge wire and though effectively a single coil because of the amount of 42 gauge wire on the bobbin you will get a fat meaty tone if you turn up the gain! With an Alnico 5 magnet in the bridge it will push it harder also helping thicken up that thin tone you seem to be getting.

But the thing i love about having the Mississippi Queens in my SG style guitar is that if i want to play something smooth and bluesy it will easily accomplish that area too!!!

Chris



Title: Re: Please help me to choose pickups for my SG
Post by: emotionsclot on July 30, 2009, 07:45:34 AM
MrPring, I think that it's because you like PRS sound more than SG. Anyway, guitar sound isn't made by only PUps  :wink:
Title: Re: Please help me to choose pickups for my SG
Post by: MrPring on July 31, 2009, 12:02:09 AM
MrPring, I think that it's because you like PRS sound more than SG. Anyway, guitar sound isn't made by only PUps  :wink:

Yeh i know  :x

That was the best sound ive ever had from any guitar ive ever owned.
Only problem was it had the wide fat neck  :shock:
Title: Re: Please help me to choose pickups for my SG
Post by: AndyR on July 31, 2009, 08:55:07 AM
Я люълю мои Риф Рафи

(that's about as far as my russian goes - I've got a feeling I've got the case wrong though :roll:)

Welcome :D
Title: Re: Please help me to choose pickups for my SG
Post by: emotionsclot on July 31, 2009, 09:54:22 AM
MrPring, I have a few guitars (tele, asat, SG) with different necks, but each sounds so fantastic and I forgot all that small things about fat necks or somth.

to all, you are so funny guys, and I'm glad to deal with you :)

AndyR, a few lessons and you'll can tell some russian phrases rightly.


The Mule IV and the Black Dog are my favorite set for present.

I think to ask His Majesty Tim for advice about set.

And I have one more technical question. I'm a lefthanded guitarlayer, and I don't know has BKP humbuckers differences for righthanded and lefthanded guitars, or not?
Title: Re: Please help me to choose pickups for my SG
Post by: Twinfan on July 31, 2009, 10:17:16 AM
And I have one more technical question. I'm a lefthanded guitarlayer, and I don't know has BKP humbuckers differences for righthanded and lefthanded guitars, or not?

No  :)

That only applies to Strat/Tele pickups with staggered polepieces....
Title: Re: Please help me to choose pickups for my SG
Post by: emotionsclot on July 31, 2009, 10:31:06 AM
And I have one more technical question. I'm a lefthanded guitarlayer, and I don't know has BKP humbuckers differences for righthanded and lefthanded guitars, or not?

No  :)

That only applies to Strat/Tele pickups with staggered polepieces....
I've understood it just, sorry, it was noob question  :euuuh:
Title: Re: Please help me to choose pickups for my SG
Post by: Dr. Vic on July 31, 2009, 10:33:18 AM
You know what ?

You better not call him "Majesty Tim", otherwise I'm not sure he will answer your questions again....
The first time I called BKP I said "may I speak to mister Mills please ?"

The answer was : " well it's me, but please call me Tim, no Mister Mills !"  8) 8)

What a knowledgeable and kind guy he is !


I think you can't go wrong with either this BD / Mu combo or a Crawler set which is also worth considering.
And it's true that if the RY works GREAT in the SG, maybe it will be too agressive in the bridge for your tastes.

Tsar Tim will point you to the best option anyway : you can trust him, he knows his stuff ! 

 
PS :

Я люълю мои Риф Рафи

What does that mean....and who would have expect this topic to become one of a kind russian lesson ?  :D
Title: Re: Please help me to choose pickups for my SG
Post by: emotionsclot on July 31, 2009, 10:43:58 AM
Quote
Я люълю мои Риф Рафи
it means "I love my Riff Raffs", but with a few mistakes, if you want say it correctly, it should be written "Я люблю мои Рифф Раффы" :)

Tsar Tim  :lol: haha excellent!!!
any versions else?)))
Title: Re: Please help me to choose pickups for my SG
Post by: Dr. Vic on July 31, 2009, 11:42:32 AM
if you want say it correctly, it should be written "Я люблю мои Рифф Раффы" :)

Which is why I didn't understand it the first time : Я люблю мои Рифф Раффы is more understandable than Я люълю мои Риф Рафи  :lol:

Not sure if the Riff raff will answer the "thick, meaty, but not too agressive" tone you want in the bridge though.

Still on the BD / Mu combo,
crawler set or Emerald set maybe (which I forgot to mention in my previous post !)...

Good luck  :good:

Title: Re: Please help me to choose pickups for my SG
Post by: AndyR on July 31, 2009, 12:06:59 PM
:lol: I wasn't sure whether to use the double фф or not. So ы is the right ending for when I'm loving them then?

I'm not sure the Riff Raff bridge will give you thick/meaty either. Someone else has mentioned Mississippi Queens - I've tried those as well. If anything, they come across as thicker and meatier for me, but I find they're also more aggressive.

BTW folks, "Я люблю мои Рифф Раффы", if you want to say it out loud, it's roughly:

"Ya lyoobyoo moyee Reeff Rahffuhyee"

- that final "uhyee" is difficult for us... ы is "ee" with a "y" in front of it, makes quite a guttural sort of sound - do the "uh" really fast just before the "yee".

Emotionsclot, I'm guessing our "i", as in "Riff", or "hit" is just as difficult to master for you guys? :D
Title: Re: Please help me to choose pickups for my SG
Post by: emotionsclot on July 31, 2009, 12:49:17 PM
:lol: I wasn't sure whether to use the double фф or not. So ы is the right ending for when I'm loving them then?
In this case "ы" means only plural number, like your "s"

Double фф, hm... I think that it's only because of Riff Raff is proper name, and in concordance of russian grammar, proper names must be written transliteration.


BTW folks, "Я люблю мои Рифф Раффы", if you want to say it out loud, it's roughly:

"Ya lyoobyoo moyee Reeff Rahffuhyee"

- that final "uhyee" is difficult for us... ы is "ee" with a "y" in front of it, makes quite a guttural sort of sound - do the "uh" really fast just before the "yee".

Emotionsclot, I'm guessing our "i", as in "Riff", or "hit" is just as difficult to master for you guys? :D
yeah, I think that our "ы" is difficult for you in pronunciation.

about your "i", a number of my friends confuse in pronunciation, when "i" situated in open or closed syllables.
Title: Re: Please help me to choose pickups for my SG
Post by: Dr. Vic on July 31, 2009, 02:35:36 PM
I knew this topic was about to turn into a Russian lesson.  :mrgreen:

 

Title: Re: Please help me to choose pickups for my SG
Post by: emotionsclot on July 31, 2009, 02:50:51 PM
haha  :D

discussion about pickups came to the end and russian language lessons has begun
Title: Re: Please help me to choose pickups for my SG
Post by: dheim on July 31, 2009, 03:44:24 PM
haha  :D

discussion about pickups came to the end and russian language lessons has begun

i love this kind of things... :)