Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
At The Back => The Dressing Room => Topic started by: HTH AMPS on August 03, 2009, 03:45:33 PM
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http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20090803/tuk-english-haggis-claim-shocks-scots-dba1618.html
I find it extremely amusing that a foodstuff SO associated to Scotland could well have been an English dish popularised by the Scots.
Makes no difference to me, I'll still buy and eat it with a wee dram.
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It must be Scottish. They invented whisky afterwards to take the taste away.
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Food historian Catherine Brown said she found references to the dish in a book called The English Hus-Wife, dated 1615
Yeah like the technology for cooking animal organs & oats in hot water wasn't invented until the 17th century :roll:
'Most' non-technology based items were inverted in ancient times and recently re-discovered. As way of proof, neither tartan or bagpipes are Scottish. I bet you could find a recipe very similar to Haggis in a Roman cookbook from 2,000 years ago.
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It must be Scottish. They invented whisky afterwards to take the taste away.
Except whisky was invented by the Chinese centuries before (thankyou QI).
It's not that surprising, though as I would imagine all cutures at some point have created a similar recipe for the preparation of offle; just like almost all cultures have a form of flatbread so why not add a topping to make what we would commonly call a pizza?
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Haggis was invented in Ancient Rome, as far as my knowledge has evolved from watching lots of QI.
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God Bless the BBC and Dave. Helping people on the internet be smartarses since 2001 :lol:
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I may be Scottish but I hate haggis. For those that don't know making haggis is roughly as follows:
1. Catch a sheep.
2. Shear sheep.
3. Take sheep firmly by the rectum.
4. Flick with enough force to turn sheep inside out and ensure it is enwrapped within it's own stomach.
5. Boil until your whole house stinks of offal and sheep is dead (If not already).
6. Slice with claymore/broadsword/dirk/kitchen knife
7. Serve with mashed potato (tatties) and turnip (neeps).
8. Endure long winded readings of terrible poems by a long dead poet.
Believe me it tastes just like this recipe sounds. Someone's got to be blamed, nobody would intentionally inflict a national dish like this on themselves. Thank goodness we invented Tikka Masala :lol:
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no love for haggis eh? - meh!, I'm partial to it now and again. got to be with neeps and tatties though, its a tasty meal regardless of all the shitee in it. I also happen to like black pudding, liver, kidney etc...
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Don't trust QI - anything Stephen Fry says is likely to be a pompous lie cooked up by one of his fawning research monkeys!
If whiskey comes from China - how come its a gaelic word?
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Its the concept of whiskey not the name.
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prefer black puddin' myself
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Agreed.
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Don't trust QI - anything Stephen Fry says is likely to be a pompous lie cooked up by one of his fawning research monkeys!
Dont you badmouth QI, its my favourite!
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prefer black puddin' myself
Yup, nothing like a fried pig scab :lol:
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Sorry to labour the point on Whisky - but whilst the technology of distillation may have originated in China, the 'concept' of Whisky surely didn't. On that basis gin, vodka, whisky, brandy, cognac Pisco - any European or American distilled drink 'originated' in China - which is plainly absurd. Nor do the Chinese have much of a history of barley production, which (American Rye aside) is as much a defining part of Whisky as distilliation.
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The Chinese definitely invented cornflakes...... I think.
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Guess what - having a British Library card I went there today (for other reasons) and this 1615 book does not mention the word Haggis - rather it mentions a mutton pudding- a feature common to 17th century cook books (I know as I have read a ton of them)! AND its a multi part book called the Country Contentments not The English Hus Wife (which is only a part of the book). So take the report, as they say, with a pinch of salt.
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Good old British journalism, never let facts get in the way of a good story :P
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Good old British journalism, never let facts get in the way of a good story :P
when has the truth ever been an issue with journalists? - its all about shifting units :roll:
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this just made me think of something, you know how Danish bacon, has to be Danish now, else they have to call it something else
Scotland should cash in and force scot eggs to be Scottish
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Hmm, I thought Haggis was the teacher in charge of nature creatures in Harry Potter :lol: